Ominous Anonymous Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Is it possible that Abnett simply made a mistake and typed Aztecs instead of Egyptians and we're nerd-ragin' over nothing? :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173162-dan-abnett-on-the-burning-of-prospero/page/2/#findComment-2048477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
clanfield Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 imperial fist =praetorians as for the smurfs yes roman but no ,theres a lot of athens and sparta in there as well 1k sons aztec cool like it besides its not like it matters they get wacked and then arhiman turns em into puppets so hey ho Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173162-dan-abnett-on-the-burning-of-prospero/page/2/#findComment-2048554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megalodon Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Is it possible that Abnett simply made a mistake and typed Aztecs instead of Egyptians and we're nerd-ragin' over nothing? :lol: There is no reason to Nerd-rage cause he ain't writing the Thousand Sons book. :D Thank the maker! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173162-dan-abnett-on-the-burning-of-prospero/page/2/#findComment-2048595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tuditanus Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 I think it's a clear case of inspiration(or character) v.s. imagery in this little mini-debacle. Abnett seems to fairly clearly be going by what he thinks is the inspiration for their character/actions.. Which is comforting to see... He's a writer... Writing a book on them... So their characters/attitudes factor more to him than how they look on the tabletop...I'm not sure why just because Smurfs look Roman, or 1k Sons look Egyptian, that they have to ACT the same... Are we all THAT narrow minded, brothers? Now, that soapbox aside... I am excited.. I think the respective books are in their best hands possible... I've spoke with Graham at GD Baltimore and had him sign my copy of Fulgrim... From that short conversation, I am more than sure that the 1k Sons aspect of things should be just... Amazing.. And, having spoken with Abnett that day too, I think personally he'll find he comes to like SW more than he does initially... They share a certain few qualities I believe. And, to the gents raving over the axe type.. First off: Really.. I mean.. Honestly? You're riled over this? Secondly... How do we know this is the one he ordered? Just because someone posted a picture of it? Chill... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173162-dan-abnett-on-the-burning-of-prospero/page/2/#findComment-2048629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 I say lets wait and see what he does with the novel. Hopefully it will be great, the best so far of the HH series. Lets hope it shows the SW and our primarch in the best light. If not then we go find him and do a "misery" on him until he re writes it whilst tied to a bed. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173162-dan-abnett-on-the-burning-of-prospero/page/2/#findComment-2048722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam_R Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/5971/dantheman.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173162-dan-abnett-on-the-burning-of-prospero/page/2/#findComment-2048829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhorse47 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 He's an excellent writer and should give us a great story. I am looking forward to it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173162-dan-abnett-on-the-burning-of-prospero/page/2/#findComment-2048835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaStone Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 On a separate note, Ultramarines are supposed to be Greek? Uh, I guess I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure they are Roman; specifically Roman Republic. When I think of Ultramarines I don't think of Greek at all; not even Spartan-Greek. Am I missing something here? Maybe it's hidden in one of those HH books that I don't read. Regards, Valerian I know what you mean, I always thought the Thousand Sons were based on ancient Egypt. :lol: Oh yeah, that too. Aztecs? Where did he get that from? I guess that reafirms why I don't read the Black Library junk, not only is the writing rather poor, the authors don't even know the background material. Valerian I think he is referring more to the motivations and behaviour of the chapters than to their imagery, the thousand sons are all about ritual, human sacrifice, worship of sorcerous power and the appeasment of demons and gods, yes their imagery is more egyptian but if you are writing them then you care more about their motivations than you do about their imagery. Similarly while much of the Ultramarines iconography and appearance is undoubtedly roman their behaviour is certainly much more greek, they see themselves as an army that defends the civilians and whose purpose is to defend and promote equality and peace much more than the roman conquerer mentality, they may look roman but they think like greeks. As Abnett says, a lot of the chapters draw from many differing sources, they have that filter to make them not obviously drawn from one or the other but he seems to be mentioning how the chapters think and not how they look which matters more to an author. I've actually got to agree here, while in my opinion, the Thousand Sons definately have most of their visual themes drawn from ancient egyptians, their character is drawn more strongly from the aztecs. I think this also applies to the Ultramarines with the greek/roman situation. Anyway, that's it, I'm eagerly awaiting the book either way :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173162-dan-abnett-on-the-burning-of-prospero/page/2/#findComment-2048892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyInDeath Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 And, to the gents raving over the axe type.. First off: Really.. I mean.. Honestly? You're riled over this? Secondly... How do we know this is the one he ordered? Just because someone posted a picture of it? Chill... That's just us being geeks. Of course it doesnt really matter, but axes, as Space Wolves, are our forte, and we love'em in all shapes and sizes, be they bearded or just a plain ol danish long hafted battle axe. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173162-dan-abnett-on-the-burning-of-prospero/page/2/#findComment-2048947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Rao Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 And, to the gents raving over the axe type.. First off: Really.. I mean.. Honestly? You're riled over this? Secondly... How do we know this is the one he ordered? Just because someone posted a picture of it? Chill... Not riled. If you look at my original post, this was given as an afterthought, initiated by the "btw" thing. The main gist of my post was that I'm really looking forward to what Abnett can do with the SW. It's the ONLY axe they have on that site that is two-handed, is Danish, and isn't fantasy - hence. It was never my intention to have that off the cuff remark turn into a small sub-thread. Ah well. O and yes we are all geeks and yes I LOVE axes. They are ace. I do agree with you, though, that the discussion about where GW gets its imagery from and how 1:1 that is ported to the models/fluff is a very, very moot point. I think it's much more telling that Abnett describes the SW as being "a bit too much on the nose", a bit too literal, with which I certainly agree. That's why I'm looking forward to what he can do with them, cuz it seems like something radically new, which is really what the SW need - I'm sure even Bill King felt the same way when he left GW/BL. As much as I like the Wolf's Honour book. LR Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173162-dan-abnett-on-the-burning-of-prospero/page/2/#findComment-2049323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tuditanus Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Entirely a feasible 'elimination' bit on the axe. But, be it a walking axe, bearded, whatever... As long as the man gets his hands on an axe! Edit: Perhaps some can show Dan this? http://www.kultofathena.com/imagesXD628G_l.jpg Proper bearded axe, to be sure! (tried to embed it, but both the picture icon button and just manually typing in the '' code wouldn't work!) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173162-dan-abnett-on-the-burning-of-prospero/page/2/#findComment-2049335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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