spjaco Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Currently I have the following: One Chaplain (built from bits from a DA set and other odds and ends) One Apothecary (built from bits from a DA set and other odds and ends) One Techmarine One Dreadnought (with Lascannons and missile launcher) One Rhino One Landraider One Landspeeder One Razorback (Strontos version, YEP the old model) Five Full Strength Tactical Squads (50 models) One Devastator Squad (with 7 models) 8 Terminators (3 assault models, five shooty) 12 Assault Marines One Scout Squad (five models) Maybe going off to Fenris to enlist my services there abouts.... But not sure. Curious about this new codex for the wolves I am hearing about, though I am not one to committ to flights of fancy, I havent even painted chapter badges on my SM's yet. Not sure. Any ideas on how easy it would be for a first timer to use SW or Ultras in a campaign/game? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173227-seriously-considering-revamping/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
clanfield Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 id leave em as is and invest in new models for the wolves ,that way you can get the figures you want rather than potentualy ruining your currant force (im not saying you have no skill just why chance it ) and of course wait until you have the codex for reading till you decide, us sons of russ are a funny breed not into parades and badges etc just ale and elk and a good brawl, as to a campaign what a great way to start a new company you can guide the narrative by the choices youve made and if you name your heros/squads they start to take on a charicter of there own as the games go on are wolves easy to play thats up to you im afraid youre style of play will lean towards a particular army and build of force from your forces youve listed it looks like you enjoy power builds so if i was building a wolf army now with that in mind: battle leader terminator armour-stm btr frost blade ven dread-wepons to taste wolf guard body guard 4 terminators-which ever wepons you like land raider grey hunters x10 bolters ,plas gun,rhino blood claws x 10 2 p fists,rhino pred destructor-las pods attack bike - multi melta try that out see if you like it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173227-seriously-considering-revamping/#findComment-2047441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitewolfmxc Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Hi mate , i hope your not considering SW just because its gonna be new or hoping it will be a new power creep codex , course if so id hate to see people like that joining the Fang, But if not congrats. SW are awesome just by its name lol SW's style is : Move as close and as fast as you can , Shoot as much as you can in within Charge range , Then ripe your enemies into shreds in close combat = Good game people XD If its your first 5th ed game , i do however recommend you use normal (ultra) marines first , to get familiar with the system and how the New SM stuff works, then you start looking inot the old (well soon new) codex of the SW , that way you'll get the army way faster and more through Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173227-seriously-considering-revamping/#findComment-2047460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjaco Posted July 12, 2009 Author Share Posted July 12, 2009 Whitewolf I know exactly what you mean. In actuallity I have always wanted to field a Space Wolves Army but when I saw the amount of green stuff that was being used on the models I was intimidated, so I decided I would start small with a easier to paint army and once I felt my painting skills could hold its own I would try to revamp them as SW. I guess you could say I was earning my pelt so to speak.... I got interested in the DOW game, and when I found out about the SW I liked the sound of their tactics and their fluff and soon couldnt wait to use their paint scheme on the game. Now I am back from downrange and into the models, enjoying it all terribly. Clanfield here is a question for you: Okay, now the Land Raider can carry the most SM bare non of any land vehicle (if I could have a Thunderhawk as a dedicated vehicle I would, but who would play against that, LOL) with some carrying as few as a dozen and others as many as 18. So since Blood Claws are typically supposed to field 15 SM then wouldnt that make a better choice for their transport? That way if they ran into armor then the LR takes it out and they focus on the enemy infantry types, just a thought. Plus the LR could lay down a base of fire and allow the Blood Claws to close the distance without much fire being directed on them along the way, or it could just drive up in the middle of the whole mess, drop the ramp and let the FUR FLY!!!! :) :lol: :D I like that last one just because the idea of running over someones troops and then assaulting them, well it just sounds wolfish to me.... Maybe it has something to do with my US Army Infantry training (currently active duty). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173227-seriously-considering-revamping/#findComment-2047471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
clanfield Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 a crusader could carry more blood claws BUT ,as the codex stands at the moment its a heavy slot i find blood claws work better as ether small rhino carried units or larger foot sloggers ,personaly i use 8 blood claws 1 power fist ,1 wolf guard champion with power wepon and a wolf priest in a rhino -last week they took down 10 havocs and 5 chaos termis in 2 rounds , the attack bikes and predator are there to kill armour the land raider was just because it can carry teminators , space wolves are about subtle use of your avaliable points not over kill :) i hope you enjoy the sons of russ welcome to the fang Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173227-seriously-considering-revamping/#findComment-2047593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Hi mate , i hope your not considering SW just because its gonna be new or hoping it will be a new power creep codex , course if so id hate to see people like that joining the Fang, But if not congrats. SW are awesome just by its name lol SW's style is : Move as close and as fast as you can , Shoot as much as you can in within Charge range , Then ripe your enemies into shreds in close combat = Good game people XD If its your first 5th ed game , i do however recommend you use normal (ultra) marines first , to get familiar with the system and how the New SM stuff works, then you start looking inot the old (well soon new) codex of the SW , that way you'll get the army way faster and more through Well, fortunatley it is not up to you whether they join the fang. People join armies for what ever reason. That is their business. A true fan will be known by their actions and deeds. Who knows someone hopping on the wagon may become so enthralled with SW's that they become the staunchest fan possible. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173227-seriously-considering-revamping/#findComment-2047759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjaco Posted July 13, 2009 Author Share Posted July 13, 2009 Make no mistake, I am still learning the ropes of how to play the tabletop game. I hope that I will be able to pick up the SW codex before I make up my mind. Now I wasnt saying that was how I WAS going to go in regards to the LR's, but I was saying was I wanted to know what would be the pro's and con's about doing so. I have to admit I have always wondered just how players or the fluff for that matter get around the bigger blood claw squads when the rhino holds 10 and the drop-pod holds 10 or 12 depending on your source. Where do the other wolves go? Are they on standby somewhere? As far as research I have already read just about everything I could find (IN ENGLISH) on the net on the Wolves and all but one of the Space Wolves novels. The more I know, the more I like this Chapter. Yes, the Wolves are all about skill, but they are not above just blatant use of overwhelming force, they seem to be willing to do whatever it takes to close with their enemies and win, as long as it is within certain acceptable limits, of course. They are true technicians of the battlefield, they know when to use a cudgel and when a scapel will do, and can wield both with equal efficiency. That is why I like them. That and they dont seem to just blindly follow some long dead patriach or Emperor, they actually think for themselves, then they pray to Russ and/or the Emperor that they are right. Just my take on it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173227-seriously-considering-revamping/#findComment-2047917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhorse47 Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 hi spj and welcome. I think you are summing up the Wolves quite well. I started out with DA and switched over when I found the style more to my liking. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173227-seriously-considering-revamping/#findComment-2047926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Hail and welcome to the fang astartes... of whatever chapter you be. If I were you Id say proxy them for a bit, try out the playstyle... and keep going with it. If the new codex comes out, and you enjoy it as Im sure youll enjoy the current one, then keep going and modify your forces. But really with some extra seargent models you can play space wolves with normal marines no problem. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173227-seriously-considering-revamping/#findComment-2047990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
clanfield Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 youve summed us up well pup (i was refering to the game mechanics by the way ) with such a strong understanding of the wolves im sure youll do well good hunting Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173227-seriously-considering-revamping/#findComment-2048015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firenze Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 hi spj and welcome. I think you are summing up the Wolves quite well. I started out with DA and switched over when I found the style more to my liking. I have joined the Fang from the DA but still have both. It is a good contrast of fighting styles as I don't have a close range army. I usually have shooty armies but it is time to jump in and HOOOOWWWLLL!!! :tu: I worry myself sometimes... Need ale.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173227-seriously-considering-revamping/#findComment-2048397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjaco Posted July 13, 2009 Author Share Posted July 13, 2009 Thanks for the welcome all. I have to admit that some of the welcomes you get from other chapters left me feeling as if I was left out in the cold on Fenris itself. Anyway, once I get the old ball rollin I will be posting pics of my army as it develops and is painted. Actually a gallon or two of ale (gotta give it to those Wolves, they can certainly drink and eat) would certainly hit the spot right now. So until I can get "Stuck in" a fight proper and post some army pics :tu: will have to entertain ya'll for the moment spjaco Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173227-seriously-considering-revamping/#findComment-2048407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjaco Posted July 13, 2009 Author Share Posted July 13, 2009 Where could I find the break down of who the current wolflords are? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173227-seriously-considering-revamping/#findComment-2048819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 The B+C librarium at the top of the page has a wonderful read called the comprehensive history of the space wolves that should have some of what your looking for. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173227-seriously-considering-revamping/#findComment-2048828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjaco Posted July 15, 2009 Author Share Posted July 15, 2009 Thanks Grey Mage. One more question for you all out there: Okay, have my Chaplian figure, I know the Wolves use the Wolf Priest as Apothecary and Chaplain. I havent seen to many figures with the usual arm for the Apothecary however. As I have a full fledged Apothecary and a full fledged Chaplian would it be possible for me to count them BOTH as Wolf Priest's? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173227-seriously-considering-revamping/#findComment-2050987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjaco Posted July 15, 2009 Author Share Posted July 15, 2009 I found this site for names: Site for Norse Names and this one for the Wolflords: Site for Wolflords Hope this helps everyone. For RUSS and the Allfather Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173227-seriously-considering-revamping/#findComment-2050992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjaco Posted July 28, 2009 Author Share Posted July 28, 2009 Took 1350 points worth of my Ultramarine Third Company against a similiar size ORC force in Annihilation and bested them. The bad news is that the Razorback got nailed the first turn, never got off a shot. One squad was wasted by a ORC WAAAGH charge after they had wiped out a commando squad led by ORC IC Sniprot (spelling) that had infiltrated on them. They still managed to take out most of the group that brought them down. Oh, and a five termie squad got wasted going up againsted two squads of ORCs and Ghazakhull also during WAAAGH charge and assault phase but held on long enough to stop the charge cold and get one wound in on Ghaza! The Rhino was immobilized but still racked up a half dozen kills with its heavy bolter, the most impressive figure on the battlefield was my sole dreadnaught who mustve killed a over a dozen orcs even after being immobilized and suffering a strength 8 blast from one of those squibs with a bomb strapped to its back. It never fell. Just kept shooting! My two remaining tactical squads seized barricades and beat off squad after squad of ORCs, often in close quarters fighting. Meanwhile my Assualt squad, a land speeder, and a scout squad flanked the orcs and went after their Lobba and wiped out a squad of burna boyz in the process. All in all a really good game. Not bad for my first time out with my own army. Still considering retooling the entire lot as SW, but thought folks would be interested in how my first outing went. On a side note, just got the word I will be getting promoted to Staff Sergeant soon, yep, I am in the US Army if you hadnt already guessed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173227-seriously-considering-revamping/#findComment-2063167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeslikethunder Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Welcome to the Fang have an ale on me Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173227-seriously-considering-revamping/#findComment-2063210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunchb0x Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Bandwagon, jumps on. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173227-seriously-considering-revamping/#findComment-2063235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durfast Spiritwolf Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Bandwagon, jumps on. That was welcoming - I didn't realise that there was some form of selection committee out there :devil: Look on the bright side - if people don't stick around then you can buy their stuff up cheap on fleabay in six months :cuss Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173227-seriously-considering-revamping/#findComment-2063334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhorse47 Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Congrats Sarge, and thank you for your service! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173227-seriously-considering-revamping/#findComment-2063547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunchb0x Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Bandwagon, jumps on. That was welcoming - I didn't realise that there was some form of selection committee out there :D Look on the bright side - if people don't stick around then you can buy their stuff up cheap on fleabay in six months :D I am always the Committee. And yes..I cant wait to get all the cheap stuff on ebay. Give it 3 months after the dex is out, and its on the net on how to beat the wolves...and BAM ebay. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173227-seriously-considering-revamping/#findComment-2063589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Bandwagon, jumps on. That was welcoming - I didn't realise that there was some form of selection committee out there :D Wow, I have noted a lot of hostility the nearer we get to the release of the new dex towards the new Bloodclaws that have entered our hallowed halls here at the Fang. There is no selection commitee ;) atleast not formal. As Lord Rags said all are welcome here and free to join. we SW have built up a long standing reputation over many years for having the most welcoming forum here on the B&C. (to the point even DA pop in now and then for some real Ale) Lets keep it that way other wise some of the older pack members myself included will have to start bashingh heads ;) All this "jumping on the bandwagon of the new dex" and the "jumping on people for saying jumping on the band wagon" needs to stop. I totally understand where the hostility is coming from (being a SW player since 2nd) for many players. For many years we were a small group of brothers who saw an increase of new players during the 3rd edition only for those wolves to recant their oaths to Russ and jump on the next new shiny dex that came along. We have been proud to be unique especailly those who stayed loyal to the old outdated dex whilst others had moved on. It must upset some of the older memebrs/players when they see that this is just history repeating itself all over again. But this is all simply part of life and maybe as old wolves we can be less vocal about our point of views. Also some can feel that thier home is being invaded by over enthusiastic (sp) young pups. everyday there seem to be more of these young pups everywhere getting under our feet and drinking all our ale and generally smashing the place up ;) They come here with all the bravado as if they are gheroes of legend. But brothers rememeber they are young blood claws eager for glory and that the way they are supposed to be. as the saying goes "if they are so eager to jump into the jaws of ions lets hope of few get stuck in the lions throat". Remember were we any different when we started out? Lets just let them have their fun. Most will never see grey hunter status but we cannot judge that as only time will tell. The committe sees all :D Also welcome Spjaco, now make yourself useful and get an old wolf some ale. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173227-seriously-considering-revamping/#findComment-2063600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiplash Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Wow, I have noted a lot of hostility the nearer we get to the release of the new dex towards the new Bloodclaws that have entered our hallowed halls here at the Fang. There is no selection commitee ;) atleast not formal. the grouchy resitence has come over the last 10 years! other armies are used to new players koining forces!! :D sadly not as many have joined us over that time hungover wolves arent used to change!!! :D on an on topic note: spjaco: if your lot is painted sir then good luck to you!! im stripping an auction from ebay atm and its a pain!! and thats only like 40 models!! so a definate pat on the back if you manage to get through all of yours without going crackers! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173227-seriously-considering-revamping/#findComment-2063623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durfast Spiritwolf Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 All this "jumping on the bandwagon of the new dex" and the "jumping on people for saying jumping on the band wagon" needs to stop. I totally understand where the hostility is coming from (being a SW player since 2nd) for many players. For many years we were a small group of brothers who saw an increase of new players during the 3rd edition only for those wolves to recant their oaths to Russ and jump on the next new shiny dex that came along. We have been proud to be unique especailly those who stayed loyal to the old outdated dex whilst others had moved on. It must upset some of the older memebrs/players when they see that this is just history repeating itself all over again. But this is all simply part of life and maybe as old wolves we can be less vocal about our point of views. Seconded, I'm a 2nd ed vintage player myself but, just as with the 3rd ed C:SW, some of the new members will stick around and it would be the shame to tarnish the reputation of this forum for the sake of the odd message. Now back to painting that blasted LRR, grumble, great hunt, grumble grumble Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173227-seriously-considering-revamping/#findComment-2063952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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