Megalodon Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 I like the cheap TLHB and it's been pretty successful so far, but I can't help but wonder about the other weapons options. I need some input, on the other options and if they are worth the points on an AV 11 transport? What about adding a stormbolter, is it a worthwhile upgrade? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Talon Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 The assault cannon is a great choice....move 6 gives you an effective 30 inch range, and its an extra shot and +1 Str over the HB, and rending. I miss the multi melta option though.... heavy flamers are kinda of a waste...if you are that close to the enemy, your vehicle is probably in assault range of another unit. las plas is a great option as well. lascannons don't seem as popular anymore these days....more shots to cause more wounds to cause more failed saves. I guess cause of all the cover saves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/#findComment-2048687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanyPrawny Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 I'll be very intrested in hearing about this too as I've just bought and assembles 5 razorbacks for my wolves. I was planning to just use HB's as its soo cheap and adds a heavy weapon to my GH's basicly. I can't justify paying 90pts for an AV11 6capacity transport. I had a game using them against a friend who's just starting chaos (TS's boo hiss) and got a comfortable win out of it using just HB's. Power armour made it so i genrally only killed one or two with combined fire but it was enough when coupled with the gray hunters in them adding their fire. against anything with other than power armour I imagine it will rock even harder. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/#findComment-2048703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 I have had great fun and luck with the standard Twin-Linked Heavy Bolters in 4th Edition. But ever since 5th Edition, my top two choices are the following; Twin-Linked Assault Cannon, & Twin-Linked Heavy Flamer! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/#findComment-2048796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 I have this super-cheap razorback... I tore out all the guns, and made more room for my men to fit inside. It was brilliant and so hard core razorback just wasnt a badass enough name so I came up with something better. Are you ready for this? I call it... a RHINO. Trust me, its beastly. :). Seriously I have the turrets for each one, and I find that the heavy bolters and the TLPG variants are probly the best at making back their points. Id take the TLLC if I really needed the extra fire support but at that price Im looking at getting to MM attack bikes instead. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/#findComment-2048816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalver Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 It's a pity you can't buy two razorbacks to transport a single squad, the cruddy capacity is a pain. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/#findComment-2048821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhorse47 Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 I use my razors with my Long Fangs, so one has lasers that goes with my anti armor squad. The other has lasers as thats what it came with. The last uses hb as protection for my missile squad. All have storm bolters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/#findComment-2048824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Guard Hengist Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Been using the Las/Plas varient for a while now and I'm pretty happy to include it in my lists, most of my troops use Rhino's with one squad in a Razorback. I am however going to try a TL/Donkeygun tomorrow. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/#findComment-2048830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPetersson Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 I tend to use Lascannons. It's like a ghetto predator that doesn't miss and having 2-4 of them is handy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/#findComment-2048872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMonk Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 I like the Cheap Razor Back with a HK missle That way i got alittle anti hord with alittle tank killing too :) Nothing like taking down a pesky falcon with one HK shot :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/#findComment-2048874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megalodon Posted July 14, 2009 Author Share Posted July 14, 2009 Thanks for the comments, keep 'em coming! What about the Stormbolter upgrade, it it worth it on the basic TLHB RB? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/#findComment-2048880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhorse47 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 I think it is Meg, I use mine as cover and a "bunker" for my LFs, so the extra anti infantry blast is helpful. I also use the HK if at all possible. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/#findComment-2048900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilbob Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 I like the LC/TLPG, I mostly play Chaos all day and I like to be able to keep his troops from wanting to get too close to the PGs, plus they can take out some Rhinos if he gets sloppy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/#findComment-2048906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunchb0x Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Twin Linked LAS, and twin linked ASS-CANS. I like my babys with a nice set of ASS-CANS ON THEM!!!!!!!! FOR RUSS EEEAAAGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/#findComment-2048938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
saphius Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 I use the Las Plas. Either sit back and pump out a Str 9 and a TL Str 7 shot. (The squad will also have a plasma) Giving you a decent amount of firepower, and good at holding a home objective. Or I kit out the squad way more than is healthy and run the las plas as well. Drive up, shoot 2 TL Plasma Gun shots, disembark with 2 Plasma pistols, and a Plasma or meltagun. - That's six Str 7 AP2 shots with 2 of them twin linked. Shoot the las first turn or two driving up, cracking open some of their transports, and take out squads or monstrouse creatures on the disembark. The only other option I run is the base with Heavy bolters to keep it cheap, protect an objective holding squad, and provide some clean up ability on squads that need finishing, or just need to do some wounds to cause a moral test from shooting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/#findComment-2048994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
clanfield Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 i only use em for long fangs if its my anti infantry squad i give em the tl las canon ,if its the anti armour squad twin link heavy bolters this variant i give storm bolters, genraly i give me rhinos storm bolters as its a nice buff ,my latest longfang idea is sarge 2 guys both with multi meltas in a heavy bolter razorback,works nice mobile doom squad Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/#findComment-2049044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deedark Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 I use a razorback with HB or AC 6GH +PG as my own objective holding pack I'd be more inclined to use them if I could have 5 wolfs plus IC or Wguard inside D. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/#findComment-2049088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Guard Hengist Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Thanks for the comments, keep 'em coming! What about the Stormbolter upgrade, it it worth it on the basic TLHB RB? I'd say the more dice you can chuck around the better although at the moment I reserve the Stormbolter upgrades for my Rhinos as it lets me keep my guys sat inside the transport nice and cosy whilst I can still throw 8 Bolter shots a turn around to anything within 12". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/#findComment-2049144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfGeezer Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 I go TLAC and Las/Plas, but I would only take these expensive versions if you have enough other mech as otherwise they are just a pricey 1 turn of shooting kill point. Had huge success with these in mech 1250-1750 lists. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/#findComment-2049700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Guard Nostromo Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I back the cheap option - twin linked heavy bolter, particularly the forge world version (admitedly not cheap...) as it looks infinitely more lethal than the 'protrusion' on the basic model ;) I used to sware by the lascannons, and do still use them alot in games where I think they will have enough targets. However, the basic razorback, or even the extra 10 to give it the potential kills of the stormbolter, is just too good to be true. 6 Grey hunters with a plasmagun in a cheap razorback costs you in the region of 150-160 points (depending on details), spits out a surprising quantity of nasty projectiles and requires both AT and anti-infantry fire to neutralise. What more can a budding wolf lord ask for? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/#findComment-2050560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megalodon Posted July 15, 2009 Author Share Posted July 15, 2009 I think I've decided to go with 2 HB RB's with stormbolters and an assault cannon RB for my 3 RB's. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/#findComment-2050581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Have we got back the optoons for las/plas turrets again? I thought we lost that in fourth. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/#findComment-2050679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megalodon Posted July 15, 2009 Author Share Posted July 15, 2009 Yes, it came back in the new SM codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/#findComment-2050684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roguemarine Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Yes, it came back in the new SM codex. I thought we were stuck with what was in the codex...as in the expensive rhinos and RB's did i miss the line in the FAQ that changed that? grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/#findComment-2050762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Guard Hengist Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I had a 1000 pts game last night and fielded a TL/AssCannon on my Razorback, I sat it behind my Rhinos as they all advanced and the fire support it provided was awesome. I admit I was rolling really well but on average I was easily causing four wounds a turn on Marines from the RB and when I added my Ven Dreads Asscannon it was pretty awesome. I will definately be keeping it in my lists for a while and may consider adding a second when the bitz pack kit comes out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/#findComment-2050767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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