Megalodon Posted July 15, 2009 Author Share Posted July 15, 2009 Yes, it came back in the new SM codex. I thought we were stuck with what was in the codex...as in the expensive rhinos and RB's did i miss the line in the FAQ that changed that? grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Can you point me to the weapons upgrades for the RB in our codex? Or the actual transport entry for either the Rhion or RB in the SW codex that tells us what upgrde options we can take? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/page/2/#findComment-2050813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Guard Hengist Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I have actually printed off a copy of the English FAQ and a copy of the Throne of Skulls (UKGT) FAQ, the english FAQ has missed out the bit about Rhinos and Razorbacks but the ToS FAQ states that this is a mistake and we take them from C:SM. It should help anyone having any problems. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/page/2/#findComment-2050823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
guinness drinking dwarf Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Just a quick question. When you fire the LC/TLPG does it count as one weapon with regards to moving at combat speed? Seeing how neither weapon counts as defensive. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/page/2/#findComment-2055024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 I miss the multi melta option though.... Have no fear Imperial armour Volume 2 is here. But serious now its an option worth looking at, as that one now has the same price as a standard Razorback with TL heavybolter (as latest FW faq states) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/page/2/#findComment-2055072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pils Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 I normally run RB for my long fangs, one with a TLLC the other with a TLAC, both have the pintle mounted storm bolter and both have a hunter killer. Alot of fire power from them and the squads together. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/page/2/#findComment-2055272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Just a quick question. When you fire the LC/TLPG does it count as one weapon with regards to moving at combat speed? Seeing how neither weapon counts as defensive. I would say no, you could either fire the Lascannon or the Twin-linked Plasmagun, but not both if the vehicle moves. V Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/page/2/#findComment-2055307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wookie2533 Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Just wondering where you get the parts for the TL/AC and the Las/Plas options. do you have to kit bash to get them or is there somewhere where they have a bitz pack Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/page/2/#findComment-2055565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rokafort Stonewolf Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Forgeworld or kitbash them, afaik. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/page/2/#findComment-2055665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Just a quick question. When you fire the LC/TLPG does it count as one weapon with regards to moving at combat speed? Seeing how neither weapon counts as defensive. I would say no, you could either fire the Lascannon or the Twin-linked Plasmagun, but not both if the vehicle moves. V Its listed as two seperate weapons, not a co-axial weapon... so RAW you cant fire both on the move. And I kitbashed mine using extra plasma pistols from a bloodclaws box- looks pretty good I think. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/page/2/#findComment-2055734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Forgeworld or kitbash them, afaik. Or look for an old Razorback on eBay. They used to come standard with the Lascannon/Twin-Plasmagun when Razorbacks were first introduced. In fact, I am quite sure that is why they brought the option back, since some people actually have models with those weapons on them. Valerian Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/page/2/#findComment-2055747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmoor Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Just wondering where you get the parts for the TL/AC and the Las/Plas options. do you have to kit bash to get them or is there somewhere where they have a bitz pack You get the TL AC from the LR Redeemer or Crusader. You can get them from bitz suppliers, but they are pricy ($15+). As said the Las/Plas you have to make yourself even though they had a model for it a long time ago. One that looks like this. As for what Razorback I like it is something with a Lascannon. I am not hurting for anti-infantry, what I need is anti-tank. I do want to try out the TL AC though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/page/2/#findComment-2055772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGC Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Up until now I have only used the HB and LC versions. HBs hoards and LCs vs MEQ or IG when they loads of tanks. But now we are able to take the new variants I have made one with TLACs and will try and use it next game to see how it fairs http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/DGC_album/pics%20for%20others/DSCN0776.jpg ACs are come from the Ravenwing sprue (I think) glued to the HB bodies after the barrels were removed. As for the SB question, I have only used them on HB Razorbacks because of the range issues. If I take TLLCs then I tend to keep it far away enough to make the Storm Bolters a wate of points A few people have mentioned the LC+TLPGs. Has anyone got a pic of how they made it?? Would love to see DGC Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/page/2/#findComment-2056024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanyPrawny Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Not happy with my army now, just downloaded the latest update for army builder and my army is 150pts over its limit. I look why and the razorbacks are going off of the prices of our razorbacks in the book. The ones that have no stats or weapons... awesome. It has given them the stats and equipment from C:SM. Now a heavy bolter razorback is coming in at 70pts were as the SM one is 40pts and a TLLC one is costing us 105pts. There is no way of justifying that for an AV11 6 capacity vehicle. Rather annoying. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/page/2/#findComment-2056036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Not happy with my army now, just downloaded the latest update for army builder and my army is 150pts over its limit. I look why and the razorbacks are going off of the prices of our razorbacks in the book. The ones that have no stats or weapons... awesome. It has given them the stats and equipment from C:SM. Now a heavy bolter razorback is coming in at 70pts were as the SM one is 40pts and a TLLC one is costing us 105pts. There is no way of justifying that for an AV11 6 capacity vehicle. Rather annoying. Army Builder isn't always right, although it is a great tool. Use the correct points, which are the ones from Codex Space Marines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/page/2/#findComment-2056156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanyPrawny Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 I figured since they were going off the FAQ they would have had it right but I've just seen that I can take flamers, meltaguns and plasmaguns on my longfangs 13th style lol maybe this isn't soo bad after all xD Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/page/2/#findComment-2056160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rokafort Stonewolf Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 As it stands now, Seany, that's wrong - nowhere in the FAQ does it give Long Fangs those weapons. It would be quite awesome if they did, however. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/page/2/#findComment-2056426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanyPrawny Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 As it stands now, Seany, that's wrong - nowhere in the FAQ does it give Long Fangs those weapons. It would be quite awesome if they did, however. Agreed lol. Ayway back on topic (sorry for the derail there) whats peoples opinions of TLLC with a pack of long fangs? very tempted to put it with mine as I use 2HB's and 2 LC's. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/page/2/#findComment-2056530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 I'm a big fan of using a TL Lascannon variant in my army. I have a small 6 man grey hunter squad I use to holding the home or a relatively safe objective while the rest of my army advances. The RB becomes a pretty effective anti-tank platform and given the other vehicles I have on the board (Land Raider, Vindicator, Predator, Ven Dread and Rhino) it's not a top priority for being shot at so I can leave it out in the open to get better firing lanes. that said our gaming group is very mech heavy so I could see going with the assualt cannon for an all comers list or if there were a number of bug or Ork players in the group. Oddly enough we have 3 Dark Eldar players and no Ork or Nid players in our's so most of the tactics reflect this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173337-which-razorback-is-your-choice/page/2/#findComment-2056725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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