Shortsonfire79 Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 So I finished this in October. I thought I posted it, but I guess I didn't. All symbols have been hand painted. The whole http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss63/Shortsonfire82/Crashed/IMG_1971.jpg http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss63/Shortsonfire82/Crashed/IMG_1972.jpg http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss63/Shortsonfire82/Crashed/IMG_1973.jpg http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss63/Shortsonfire82/Crashed/IMG_1974.jpg The Details This Terminator died on his assault out of the Land Raider http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss63/Shortsonfire82/Crashed/IMG_1975.jpg http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss63/Shortsonfire82/Crashed/IMG_1976.jpg Engine Damage and leakage. http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss63/Shortsonfire82/Crashed/IMG_1977.jpg Hurricane Bolter damage. http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss63/Shortsonfire82/Crashed/IMG_1978.jpg Crashed Land Speeder. The pilot is dead, but the gunner is still alive, and he ripped off the Heavy Bolter to shoot at what shot them down. http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss63/Shortsonfire82/Crashed/IMG_1979.jpg http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss63/Shortsonfire82/Crashed/IMG_1980.jpg http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss63/Shortsonfire82/Crashed/IMG_1981.jpg http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss63/Shortsonfire82/Crashed/IMG_1982.jpg http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss63/Shortsonfire82/Crashed/IMG_1983.jpg Hit by a Multi Melta. http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss63/Shortsonfire82/Crashed/IMG_1984.jpg http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss63/Shortsonfire82/Crashed/IMG_1985.jpg The track section blew out, and the Assault Grenade things busted. http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss63/Shortsonfire82/Crashed/IMG_1986.jpg C&C would be greatly appreciated. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173343-crashed-land-raider-crusader/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdeptusDavidus Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Looks pretty great, in my opinion. The broken tracks, though, look to be broken in the wrong direction, as if they broke while the Raider was backing up. Broken tracks will unspool away from the direction the vehicle is moving in. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173343-crashed-land-raider-crusader/#findComment-2048760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortsonfire79 Posted July 13, 2009 Author Share Posted July 13, 2009 Thanks! Haha! That was always pointed out! The story is, it was driving, then had to back up due to a barricade, got hit, while backing up, and with only one track, it couldn't get enough horsepower to roll back over the pile of rubble in the back. X-D Good eye =-D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173343-crashed-land-raider-crusader/#findComment-2048765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Looks like Ayame went zero form on it :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173343-crashed-land-raider-crusader/#findComment-2048769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortsonfire79 Posted July 13, 2009 Author Share Posted July 13, 2009 Whose Ayame? And whats Zero Form? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173343-crashed-land-raider-crusader/#findComment-2048773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeller Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 The tracks look like the LRC was moving forward and the gear pulled the tracks forward spitting them out front as they would. Then again the track might just pile onto itself. Okay I think you got me on this one. The thing that bothers me is the Terminator's pose. He looks kinda stuck on there. His feet aren't bent at an angle I would assume would behooves a dead man lying on rubble. I would imagine the right arm would be limp as well. :( Definitely cool though. Great job on the armor penetrations too. Are you making the rubble by putting the extra sprues in a meat grinder or cutting it yourself? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173343-crashed-land-raider-crusader/#findComment-2048780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brother varen Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 I agree, the tracks look like they came off while backing up. To show this better maybe some tank tracks showing the movement of the vehicle in the mud/rubble. If it was backing up the vehicle is positioned wrong to go over the rubble you have on the scene base. What caused the frag luanchers to brake off? You show no damage that would have caused this. The pose on the terminator is wrong for being killed while dismebarking the vehicle. The landspeeder, how did it get there? There is no cater to show that it came crashing down from the sky or even showing the direction it was coming. Was it there before the landraider? There is to much rubble on the piece and no wall pieces to show where all of it came from. Was it crashing through a wall section or is it in the middle of a town square? Don't get me wrong it is a nice piece of scenery, you just need to ask yourself questions on the scene you are trying to make. Great work though. keep it up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173343-crashed-land-raider-crusader/#findComment-2048804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XKhalilX Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 looks amazing. I wish I had that talent! my only criticism would be damage to the land speeder and also to the pilot and termie. If they died there should be bullet holes, blood, burn marks from wounds, etc. Also the living astartes should also have some gashing, scratches from crash. other than that I think its amazing and VERY creative. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173343-crashed-land-raider-crusader/#findComment-2048859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonsword Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Gabriel Angelos: "Why is it we borrowed Land Raider crew from the Emperor's Pointy Sticks, again?" Cyrus: "We needed crewmen and they offered to throw in free transport out here. Now we know why." Angelos: *palms face* Great painting on it, although the symbol on the side panel of the Land Raider looks a bit shaky. Let's call it debris scoring. Otherwise, absolutely wonderful. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173343-crashed-land-raider-crusader/#findComment-2048863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baal Dropout Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Hell's yeah men, saw this some whiles back over at your devart, looks sick as always :huh: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173343-crashed-land-raider-crusader/#findComment-2049256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris-kirky Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 as soon as i saw this i thought it was great and that it would make a good objective on a gaming board well done! although i would say that the land speeder dosent look damaged up enough after smashing into the ground. o ye and the leaking oil looks great. keep up the good work! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173343-crashed-land-raider-crusader/#findComment-2049639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutteman Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 I must praise your... 1) modeling skills 2) painting skills 3) your imagination 4) the depth of you pockets :) Great piece of work here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173343-crashed-land-raider-crusader/#findComment-2049648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marine Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I know I've seen this before, perhaps on W.I.P. forums (the site not B&C), I have an account there too Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173343-crashed-land-raider-crusader/#findComment-2050641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubernator Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Has Kren and Frep been playing TErminator Tipping again? :down: Nice wreck, the termi is my concern, because it does look like he's been tipped :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173343-crashed-land-raider-crusader/#findComment-2050645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slyfox1990 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Looks great. I really like what you ve done with the model, although it seems like such a shame to condemn such a beast to the scrap pile! As with others here I would have to say that the Terminator really lets the scene down. His legs and arms ought to be layed flat out or at least positioned with the scenery. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173343-crashed-land-raider-crusader/#findComment-2050917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapter master 454 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Whose Ayame? And whats Zero Form? Please pardon my fellow anime fan, terminatorinhell, he has yet to understand not everyone knows what anime and manga is nor is it for everyone 9however there is sure to be something if you like the idea of it). Ayame if I remember correctly is a character from a mecha anime, can't remember the anime howver for some reason the name evangelion; Genisis keeps coming back. Anyway he's the main character of the show and has an alas called zero where he pilots a mech that does things mech do best: defy physics and blow **** up. Basicly the translation would be: 'Looks like it got mauled' Anyway, tranlating anime speak out of the way for purposes of making things clear and shamelessly letting others know of anime, onto the land raider at question. First off bad points: that terminator is terrible, lazy work right there. You made no effort on posing the terminator like a dead person and is quite clearly straight from a box. Thats the worst bit in question, sorry but I'm being harsh because lazy work deserves no praise however the land raider on another note does but after the land speeder. Ok gunner alive but why is it a double barrel heavy bolter? land speeder in general only have a single barrel heavy bolter so thats undeserving and the land speeder looks like someone put it there and shoveled the debris (that looks like lego bricks but I can't do better so I'll let you off) onto it, no carved out skid mark and the angle of the crash is all wrong. Right thats the bad bits except the land raider track (which may I point out unless that barricade was a 10 foot adamantine wall with reinforced buttresses then I think the land raider would of ether drove through it or disgorged the terminators onto the terrain. bad bits done, now for that exceptional piece of work on that land raider. You did very well on it indeed, the melta holes are really good and seeing at least about 3-4 major damage areas really does capture the essence of how a land raider is so sturdy. The assault cannons need re-angled but no points lost for them, I'm assuming it is still operational and the machine spirit is try some last ditch firing. The paint work is fantastic, the damaged hurricane bolters is justice (I hated those blasted metal ones) and the mangled assault launcher could do with blown out grenades but the paint work and detail on it lets you off. Personally in total I give this diorama a 7/10, the terminator and land speeder let you down. Very well done piece but a few improvements needed, good work indeed. Should be proud of yourself. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173343-crashed-land-raider-crusader/#findComment-2050927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortsonfire79 Posted July 29, 2009 Author Share Posted July 29, 2009 Are you making the rubble by putting the extra sprues in a meat grinder or cutting it yourself? All by hand. I wish I had a meat grinder-like thing. But I think that it makes more dust than anything else X-D I agree, the tracks look like they came off while backing up. To show this better maybe some tank tracks showing the movement of the vehicle in the mud/rubble. If it was backing up the vehicle is positioned wrong to go over the rubble you have on the scene base. What caused the frag luanchers to brake off? You show no damage that would have caused this.The pose on the terminator is wrong for being killed while dismebarking the vehicle. The landspeeder, how did it get there? There is no cater to show that it came crashing down from the sky or even showing the direction it was coming. Was it there before the landraider? There is to much rubble on the piece and no wall pieces to show where all of it came from. Was it crashing through a wall section or is it in the middle of a town square? Don't get me wrong it is a nice piece of scenery, you just need to ask yourself questions on the scene you are trying to make. Great work though. keep it up. Haha, well, I have no explanation for almost any of that...so I'll say ... planned, modeled, and painted in under 10 days ;-D Which is true. Great painting on it, although the symbol on the side panel of the Land Raider looks a bit shaky. Let's call it debris scoring. Otherwise, absolutely wonderful. haha, yeah, the symbol is quite..bad. I couldn't paint it before assembly, with the rubble and all. So it was really hard for me to angle my hands in there to paint it. I know I've seen this before, perhaps on W.I.P. forums (the site not B&C), I have an account there too MM..I don't believe so. I've only posted on Youtube and Deviantart. Maybe there. Looks great. I really like what you ve done with the model, although it seems like such a shame to condemn such a beast to the scrap pile!As with others here I would have to say that the Terminator really lets the scene down. His legs and arms ought to be layed flat out or at least positioned with the scenery. Well, it was originally a Crusader for my Deathwing, but the paint job was semi-shabby, and I attempted a full body stripping....didn't work. So I just used it for terrain! Great huh? It seems everyone dislikes the Terminator and the Speeder. Oh wells. This was thought up of, made, and painted in 10 days. It was my entry in the MiniWargaming terrain contest. First off bad points: that terminator is terrible, lazy work right there. You made no effort on posing the terminator like a dead person and is quite clearly straight from a box. Thats the worst bit in question, sorry but I'm being harsh because lazy work deserves no praise however the land raider on another note does but after the land speeder. Ok gunner alive but why is it a double barrel heavy bolter? land speeder in general only have a single barrel heavy bolter so thats undeserving and the land speeder looks like someone put it there and shoveled the debris (that looks like lego bricks but I can't do better so I'll let you off) onto it, no carved out skid mark and the angle of the crash is all wrong. Right thats the bad bits except the land raider track (which may I point out unless that barricade was a 10 foot adamantine wall with reinforced buttresses then I think the land raider would of ether drove through it or disgorged the terminators onto the terrain. bad bits done, now for that exceptional piece of work on that land raider. You did very well on it indeed, the melta holes are really good and seeing at least about 3-4 major damage areas really does capture the essence of how a land raider is so sturdy. The assault cannons need re-angled but no points lost for them, I'm assuming it is still operational and the machine spirit is try some last ditch firing. The paint work is fantastic, the damaged hurricane bolters is justice (I hated those blasted metal ones) and the mangled assault launcher could do with blown out grenades but the paint work and detail on it lets you off. Personally in total I give this diorama a 7/10, the terminator and land speeder let you down. Very well done piece but a few improvements needed, good work indeed. Should be proud of yourself. yeesh. super post X-D The Terminator is a failure, and apparently so is the Speeder. At the time, I didn't even THINK of leaving some sort of crater trail for the speeder! Damn! The Terminator was just slapped on there, like you said, and I liked the prepositioned legs anyways, they seemed to fit...guess not X-D If you notice, there aren't even any bullet holes in him. The Speeder bolter. At the time (again) I had never had a SM codex, only the DA one, and from my understanding of the Ravenwing (which I now know) all speeders had the double bolter like Sammaels. Poop. The debris, was all cut by hand...that took for freaking ever. FOR EVER! And I don't understand your Land Raider Comment about the armor... Edit: and thanks for explaining Ayaname The metal hurricane bolters. Those were awesome, and it made it so much easier to rip apart when they were in pairs! That was a happy day. =-D My painting isn't good at all.. This is one of my best painted things. I'm especially proud of my freehandings that I never do. Heres the Youtube video I made for it, but I wouldn't bother watching it, as Youtube removed the audio because I used songs that weren't WMG authorized... =-P I need to get around to fixing that... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173343-crashed-land-raider-crusader/#findComment-2064372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
verpine Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 I saw this on youtube, it's really awesome. I don't really care that the tracks are unrolled in front, it would make sense to go in reverse if you get hit by a huge melta blast so that you can look for the guy that shot you/ I just don't like the terminator positioning. Heavy bolter guy=awesome! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173343-crashed-land-raider-crusader/#findComment-2064827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 I think the multimelta hit is incredible. Looks perfect. Only thing that bugs me about this is the termy- he looks like he tripped and should have a speech bubble saying: "D'Oh!" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173343-crashed-land-raider-crusader/#findComment-2065196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lotsa_terminators Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 awesome modeling work, Brother. I don't really like the painting..looks to flat in your pictures. Maybe add some highlights/washes to the red, and drybrush the metal. Your bolters/allmost all the gunmetal parts look clumped and overpainted. But, great job nonetheless! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173343-crashed-land-raider-crusader/#findComment-2066164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortsonfire79 Posted August 1, 2009 Author Share Posted August 1, 2009 speech bubble saying: "D'Oh!" "Hello rocks, nice to meet your acquaintance" awesome modeling work, Brother. I don't really like the painting..looks to flat in your pictures. Maybe add some highlights/washes to the red, and drybrush the metal. Your bolters/allmost all the gunmetal parts look clumped and overpainted. But, great job nonetheless! All I did was paint with some sort of muted red, then gave it a lathering brown ink+red ink+yellow ink+flesh wash mix, and I think I might have just washed the metals with black ink. Everytime I paint metals it seems, the paint dries very, very quickly, even with added water. Its annoying, and I have yet to find a way to conquer this annoyingosety. Nothing special. I gave it a matte coat spray to take the entire shineyness off of it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173343-crashed-land-raider-crusader/#findComment-2066928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castlerook Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 See, that Terminator always makes me think that, thats exactly what would happen to James Kirk if the Enterprise suddenly stopped. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173343-crashed-land-raider-crusader/#findComment-2067558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magical Hobo Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 Looks great, but your model has made me realize a serious flaw with the land raider crusader, theres no armour between the grenade launchers and the tracks. One hit, and BOOM! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173343-crashed-land-raider-crusader/#findComment-2068088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortsonfire79 Posted August 3, 2009 Author Share Posted August 3, 2009 No armor between the grenade launchers and the tracks? I don't understand. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173343-crashed-land-raider-crusader/#findComment-2068494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castlerook Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 I think The_Magical_Hobo is refering to the frag assault launchers. Though, their shaped charges, designed to explode in a certain direction, and probably have thick armour plating behind them to actually protect the tracks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173343-crashed-land-raider-crusader/#findComment-2068641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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