Brother Tuditanus Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 So, some research in the past few days, I've come across what i'd like to base my force off of. Bran Redmaw. The 12th Great Co. lord.. The 12th Great Co.. is known for having Wolf Lords who are rumored to bear the mark of the Wulfen, and seen sheltering/using them. I have found some fragments on Bran, but no artwork, excepting in the current codex, there is a supposed picture of him, which really makes no sense, as some of the icons and such on him are from other Wolf Lords (Morkai's double headed wolf, etc..) Bran Redmaw's Great Company, whose personal icon is the Blood Hunter, a symbol traditionally associated with Wolf Lords bearing the Mark of the Wulfen. That's taken from: http://www.gobiel.com/sonsofruss/warlord.htm I came across my Avatar on Photobucket, and it appears to be an enhanced and Photoshopped version of the Blood Hunter icon.. So, my questions on this would be advice from your brothers... Would a force that is famed for having lords with the Mark and such be infantry ground-pounders? Or what? Also, is this picture reliable for Bran? (i'm looking to convert him to tide me in the wait for the codex release). http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g155/JHart06/branredmow.jpg?t=1247588868 http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g155/JHa...pg?t=1247588868 I found it with a stanza of verse dedicated to Bran in the SW codex, but not sure if the big bloke front and center is him or not... Wisdom would be appreciated! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173400-bran-redmaw/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 yup that's bran! welcoem to the same company as me;) i've made a conversion of him too but unfortunatly my GS skills suck i think bran would field anything actually, like every wolflord but i bet he prefers an up your face tactic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173400-bran-redmaw/#findComment-2049542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tuditanus Posted July 14, 2009 Author Share Posted July 14, 2009 Well then.. *gulp* That's not a tall order to convert AT ALL. lol! I'd love to see pics of your take on things, Hendrik.. I'm thinking, pending new 'Dex, of taking a spear head of 2-3 BC's in LRCs/LR's of some type, with a good fire base of GH in rhinos/razorbacks. Possibly drop pods, depending on the ruling/availability for them. Follow that up with an armored column of 2 whirlwinds, 3 predators, and last but not least, a thunderhawk gunship toting a lot of angry wolf-guard and bran himself! I think I can cover most of that conversion except the wrist mounted storm bolter.. it's on the opposite arm as the GK ones... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173400-bran-redmaw/#findComment-2049550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnarchX Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 What is interesting is that he seems to be in Power Armor, yet according to our Codex, only models in Terminator Armor can have a Storm bolter... Thanks, AnarchX Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173400-bran-redmaw/#findComment-2049589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellblades Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Aye, but since when has the art meshed with the rules :cuss Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173400-bran-redmaw/#findComment-2049592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tuditanus Posted July 14, 2009 Author Share Posted July 14, 2009 True enough... I like the look there in the art except for the stormbolter.. It looks far too busy and complicated to even get a clear shot of it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173400-bran-redmaw/#findComment-2049614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellblades Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 I personally love the feel of the stormbolter in that picture, and it meshes with Bran's personality well. Think about it, if he is a little touched by the mark of Wulfen, he's gonna throw himself headlong at the enemy. Why use a bolt pistol to engage them at range while he is charging, if he can cause more devestation with a stormbolter? And besides, having it wrist mounted also frees up his hand to use in CC, as demonstrated above Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173400-bran-redmaw/#findComment-2049626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tuditanus Posted July 14, 2009 Author Share Posted July 14, 2009 I don't mind the type, so much as that one in the pic... I can't see what that crest/handle is, etc.. Or if it is even part of the gun...I'm not sure how I'd model it as I can't see all the details! Plus, no storm bolters I have in my bitz box seem to want to synch up with a PA arm right! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173400-bran-redmaw/#findComment-2049644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon950 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 There really isn't any information from gw yet on how the great companies are organized, so make up your own force until such time as any information is released. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173400-bran-redmaw/#findComment-2049651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamLando Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Wonder why heäs got Morkai's mark on his chest when he's Bran.. Well, I guess they could have that even though it's a mark of another company, what's with morkai's being a legend and all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173400-bran-redmaw/#findComment-2049664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tuditanus Posted July 14, 2009 Author Share Posted July 14, 2009 Wonder why heäs got Morkai's mark on his chest when he's Bran..Well, I guess they could have that even though it's a mark of another company, what's with morkai's being a legend and all. That was something I and a friend noticed.. I ended up chalking it up to 'artistic license'. I guess the head could be easily enough done with a Khorne 'zerker vamp head and some cunning GS. But the storm bolter vexs me still. His right leg also looks like it has a piston on the armor.. So either that's bionics, or archaic terminator armor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173400-bran-redmaw/#findComment-2049674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamLando Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Yeah, the new Wolf Guard's got Morkais mark on his chest, but Ragnar on his shoulder so I guess the GW-folk freestyle that alot <_< Her's hoping that the new Codex and minis will bring us another mini of a Wolf Lord beside Logan and Ragnar! Anywyas, CoolminiorNot's got some net conversions of Bran actually: http://www.coolminiornot.com/pics/pics10/img43f8b09fea616.jpg Courtesy of Vicenti http://www.coolminiornot.com/114513 http://www.coolminiornot.com/pics/pics7/img40b0f5bdd2f43.jpg Courtesy of JTY. http://www.coolminiornot.com/55162 Pretty Ok I'd say! Would be nice if someone converted all the 13 Wolf Lords (yes including Bulveye of the 13th :D) Maybe I will.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173400-bran-redmaw/#findComment-2049738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vassakov Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Hmm... I'm not convinced Bran is in PA, actually. The Legs are massive and oversized, even for PA with the bulkiness being more attributable to TDA than PA The Torso is once again larger than normal, and even with the belt there is no evidence of any exposed cabling across the midriff, which is a major feature of all PA, bar maybe Mk VII which he clearly isn't wearing. It's hard to see, but I think the "cowl" of the armour comes up a lot further than suggested - the arms and pelt get in the way a bit, but the shape is there. No evidence of a backpack of any kind - only TDA does not contain this (oh, and scouts. Bran is NOT a scout, before someone says something clever) He's far, far larger than the other figures. Even allowing for artistic style and license, that's a serious discrepancy there. The Storm Bolter. Yes, I know arty fluff =/= rules, but maybe in this case they got it right? *Shock! Horror!* So, based on that I'd say the Logan Model, with an appropriate head swap is a good place to start. And for the record, I don't think that much of the CMON minis. They're good, but they don't fit the art at all. Go for it, Tutitanus! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173400-bran-redmaw/#findComment-2049764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firenze Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 It is TDA. I can see the reinforcement on the thigh armour. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173400-bran-redmaw/#findComment-2049768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tuditanus Posted July 14, 2009 Author Share Posted July 14, 2009 If I had some spare termie bits i'd give him a go... Though somehow, an inventory of my bits has shown most of my wolfie bits I collected to have got up and gone over the years.. I was thinking the same thing as far as bran being in TDA, mainly because of the fact there is no backpack, nor even the hint of one under his cloak. I'll likely used a normal terminator and begin from there, with some adjustments/cuts to allow me to fit a regular SW torso onto it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173400-bran-redmaw/#findComment-2049769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vassakov Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Frankly, you'd be better off waiting for the new SW sprue pics and seeing where the land lies then. TeamLando raises a good point, that the Morkai Rune has been used on much of the newer SW iconography/models, and so could be indicative of things to come. Wait and see for now, we should have pics by mid/late August. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173400-bran-redmaw/#findComment-2049778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roguemarine Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Well some wolves through the fluff are so large due to the change that their PA is made from cannibalized TDA that could be a reason. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173400-bran-redmaw/#findComment-2049792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tuditanus Posted July 14, 2009 Author Share Posted July 14, 2009 *subsides into drools and twitches as he awaits October* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173400-bran-redmaw/#findComment-2049805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schertenleib Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 *sighs* Okay I'm new.... Where is all of this detail on all the Wolf Lords????? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173400-bran-redmaw/#findComment-2049868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 What is interesting is that he seems to be in Power Armor, yet according to our Codex, only models in Terminator Armor can have a Storm bolter... Thanks, AnarchX Except thats not PA... its TDA- look at the leg support struts. Now... who uses TDA, has a very large Axe, would be fighting in front of a large imperial fortress surrounded by space wolves, and has a very large pelt. Oh... and maybe its the stormbolter thats attached to the glove that gives it away, but thats actually... *drumroll* LOGAIN GRIMNAR. Chaptermaster and Greatwolf. Yes... his hairs not white, but then again this isnt a photo... its a picture of an epic battle from when he was younger. Edit: that also explains the whole "Morkai" thing... as thats the name of his axe -_-. Sorry guys. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173400-bran-redmaw/#findComment-2050116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firenze Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Good point. I can see what you mean. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173400-bran-redmaw/#findComment-2050129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vassakov Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 What is interesting is that he seems to be in Power Armor, yet according to our Codex, only models in Terminator Armor can have a Storm bolter... Thanks, AnarchX Except thats not PA... its TDA- look at the leg support struts. Now... who uses TDA, has a very large Axe, would be fighting in front of a large imperial fortress surrounded by space wolves, and has a very large pelt. Oh... and maybe its the stormbolter thats attached to the glove that gives it away, but thats actually... *drumroll* LOGAIN GRIMNAR. Chaptermaster and Greatwolf. Yes... his hairs not white, but then again this isnt a photo... its a picture of an epic battle from when he was younger. Edit: that also explains the whole "Morkai" thing... as thats the name of his axe ^_^. Sorry guys. *Facepalm* Yep, he's right. The Great Company symbols are that of the Wolf that Stalks the stars, Russ's personal symbol. So the Great Wolfs symbol - it's Grimnar. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173400-bran-redmaw/#findComment-2050133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalver Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 The current Logan Grimnar model with a head swap would actually be pretty close in appearance to that Bran image. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173400-bran-redmaw/#findComment-2050196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Yeah, the new Wolf Guard's got Morkais mark on his chest, but Ragnar on his shoulder so I guess the GW-folk freestyle that alot :PHer's hoping that the new Codex and minis will bring us another mini of a Wolf Lord beside Logan and Ragnar! Anywyas, CoolminiorNot's got some net conversions of Bran actually: http://www.coolminiornot.com/pics/pics10/img43f8b09fea616.jpg Courtesy of Vicenti Barezerker, this one is yours, right? Damn you can paint. Would be nice if someone converted all the 13 Wolf Lords (yes including Bulveye of the 13th :P)Maybe I will.... Who? Jorin Bloodfang is the Wolf Lord of the 13th. Valerian Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173400-bran-redmaw/#findComment-2050201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Bulveye is a 13nth co wolf lord... ie the leader of a warband. In one of the new HH books, theres a short story about him that uses him as the lord of the wolf 13nth co though, IIRC. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173400-bran-redmaw/#findComment-2050304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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