Lone Scout Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Ok so my buddy is beside himself with the upcoming release of the SW codex. He needs an opponent to beat him into submission(or to be beaten ), so who would give a good hardcore fight the the SW's? I won't play Chaos Deamons but everyone else is fine. Please bear in mind he will play hardcore, he is extreamly competitive (little bugga paints like he's possesed too). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173460-foes-of-the-spacewolves/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPetersson Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Well, what does he normally bring to the table and what's his playing style? I would say it's not too dissimilar to other marine armies. Bring as much AP2 and AP3 weaponry as you can muster, and failing that, overwhelm him with number of saves to take. If he's heavily mechanised, bring high strength weaponry... But really, what does he bring to the table? And what will you be playing? Recommendations for a Tau army would be different from the ones for a bug army ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173460-foes-of-the-spacewolves/#findComment-2050159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Scout Posted July 15, 2009 Author Share Posted July 15, 2009 I don't play anything yet. I have played many 40k armies but quite a while ago. I have no idea what he will bring...proberbly the most brutal unit he can and as many as he can. I need an army thats competitive for both of us. He'll get bored if he continually gnawls on my bones ^_^ as will I. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173460-foes-of-the-spacewolves/#findComment-2050162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor 117 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 If your looking for an opponent for Space Wolves, go with their blood enemies, the Thousand Sons or the Dark Angels... If had them be a challenge for my wolves a few times, especially when the 1k sons could summon deamons. My real trouble comes from my usuall opponants Emperors Children or his Drop podding Iron Hands, though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173460-foes-of-the-spacewolves/#findComment-2050235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmwulf Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I have trouble against dark elder 30+ lance lists. but seriously who hasn't ^^ but you should not just choose an army for its sole effectiveness against one opponent. every army out there can be played competetively, the most important thing is you can identify with your choice. nothing sucks more than playing an army whose playstyle and feeling you do not like. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173460-foes-of-the-spacewolves/#findComment-2050251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhorse47 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I have trouble against dark elder 30+ lance lists. but seriously who hasn't ^^ but you should not just choose an army for its sole effectiveness against one opponent. every army out there can be played competetively, the most important thing is you can identify with your choice. nothing sucks more than playing an army whose playstyle and feeling you do not like. That's a very good point. If you like shooting/mobility, Tau would b e a lot of fun. If you like to get up close and personal, Orks or 'Nids. Fast and nasty? Eldar. And of course the Thousand Sons suggestion is the classic rivalry, or another SM unit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173460-foes-of-the-spacewolves/#findComment-2050284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 @OP: What do you play at the moment? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173460-foes-of-the-spacewolves/#findComment-2050307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPetersson Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I don't play anything yet. I have played many 40k armies but quite a while ago. I have no idea what he will bring...proberbly the most brutal unit he can and as many as he can. I need an army thats competitive for both of us. He'll get bored if he continually gnawls on my bones :) as will I. In that case read up on the current armies, look at the models and pick which ever army you think would suit you best. If you're an assaulty type person avoid Tau. If you're a 'hang back and shoot' kinda guy avoid Khorne... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173460-foes-of-the-spacewolves/#findComment-2050493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn the Fell-Handed Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 The best dakka is more dakka ;) So Im saying buy some Orks :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173460-foes-of-the-spacewolves/#findComment-2050520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ominous Anonymous Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Fluff-wise, a Thousand Sons or Tzeentch-themed Chaos Space Marine list would be the best possible match up given the lost history between the two legions. Orkz would also be a good choice, or even the Dark Eldar. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173460-foes-of-the-spacewolves/#findComment-2050542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Scout Posted July 15, 2009 Author Share Posted July 15, 2009 I'd love to play DE but seriously they are old, crappy models(I'd hate to finish an army and have them launch a new range)...is that ever going to happen. Orks sound interesting and I have the BR orks so their a posibility. Would SM do ok....not fluffy I know but? Eldar are just to damn.......pretty <_< Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173460-foes-of-the-spacewolves/#findComment-2050785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Orks or Nidz then. Maybe Chaos Space Marines. You can do alot with those, they give a vastly different playstyle but still are good at CC. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173460-foes-of-the-spacewolves/#findComment-2050808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnarchX Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 It is too bad that you won't play Chaos Daemons, they are a decent army and depending on how you roll that day, you can either annihilate or be annihilated. The "Chaos" part of it keeps it interesting. :tu: Thanks, AnarchX Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173460-foes-of-the-spacewolves/#findComment-2050842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Scout Posted July 15, 2009 Author Share Posted July 15, 2009 Honestly I'm just not into CD, at this point it comes down to nilla marines or orks. Orks shoud win hands down...but all the new shiny stuff that SM have is distracting (new scouts and land speeder looks sweet...and the ironclad woohoo). SO last votes orks or SM or either? Thanks again Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173460-foes-of-the-spacewolves/#findComment-2050941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimfoe Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Orks is da biggest an da stompest! IMHO, orks would offer the biggest challenge. They have many units that can be specialized to be a real problem (Warboss & Nob bikers, Kommandos, etc.) These units can be combined with a large horde for additional protection and shooty goodness. And don't forget your battle wagons! AV 14 in the front with str 10 hits on tank shock for a little over 100 pts? (Paint it red) :rolleyes: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173460-foes-of-the-spacewolves/#findComment-2050985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Orks. They are the traditional enemies of... well, everyone. Itll be good to see more of the horde on the field. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173460-foes-of-the-spacewolves/#findComment-2050998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonsword Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Orks. They're traditional, they're mean, they're green, and they're only slightly less unpleasant than a Space Wolf with a hangover. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173460-foes-of-the-spacewolves/#findComment-2050999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverwolf Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Orks. They're traditional, they're mean, they're green, and they're only slightly less unpleasant than a Space Wolf with a hangover. lol, can't say much against that. Tau have always been the ones I have the most trouble with. Crons get phased out, other Marines have never held up once I get close enough, nids I keep moving and make them chase me through a hail of fire, Orks... well acctually Orks I don't think I've ever played against about 750pt games. At 750pt, Tau is fairly easy to beat, and remain so until around 1500+. After that there is just so many guns! Fireknives are absolute demons against Marines (Plasma/Rocket). Railheads nail our armour, and can be tricky to kill, and kroot make a good speed bump to give your firewarriors that bit of extra time to shoot at us (Hell they're marines in CC aside from the armour saves and Ld). Space Wolves are a close quarters based army, so we generally have to use either pods or rhinos to get in your face before we really start to hurt you. Tau can be very mobile, while still dumping a storm of fire into our units. Harder to pin down then Mech Eldar. Stay ahead of him, or make him run in circles after units, and you'll provide him with a nasty little learning curve. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173460-foes-of-the-spacewolves/#findComment-2052289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Scout Posted July 19, 2009 Author Share Posted July 19, 2009 I have decieded on orks. Thanks for all your suggestions. One last thing.....help name this guy. http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff59/NicholasIronfist/ork.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173460-foes-of-the-spacewolves/#findComment-2054599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 I have decieded on orks. Orks is a good choice for you, and is my #2 out of the four armies that I currently have. There are two great things about the army that I would like to highlight: 1 ) Recently updated Codex that is fully 5th edition ready, and allows you to build some very strong lists, and 2 ) Almost the entire model range is in plastic, with the exception of a few special characters, which means it is quicker and cheaper to model your force (even if you do need a lot more Boyz than your buddy needs Space Wolves). The B&C is, of course, a power-armor only forum, so if you need advice on what to buy and how to start an army list, head over to The Waaagh! to get some advice and have a look around. If you want more advice you can always send me a PM, too, and I'll try to point you in the right direction. Valerian Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173460-foes-of-the-spacewolves/#findComment-2054615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhorse47 Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 I have decieded on orks. Thanks for all your suggestions. One last thing.....help name this guy.http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff59/NicholasIronfist/ork.jpg Da DAWGKATCHA! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173460-foes-of-the-spacewolves/#findComment-2054622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 @lonescout: howabout target practice? WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173460-foes-of-the-spacewolves/#findComment-2054706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Scout Posted July 20, 2009 Author Share Posted July 20, 2009 @lonescout: howabout target practice? WLK lol cute ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173460-foes-of-the-spacewolves/#findComment-2054869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Talis Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Orks dressed as marines? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173460-foes-of-the-spacewolves/#findComment-2054933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Scout Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 Ya I know orks aren't sposed to dress in camo...but I like the look of it.....may be they're smart orks :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173460-foes-of-the-spacewolves/#findComment-2055886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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