Rahveel Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 I think karamazov is prety cool, just had a question on wording. does karamazov's servo skull let him buy a psycic power? his entry describes him as not being able to purchase aditional equipment, but the servo skull (familiar) alows him to buy an extra power. if so (and im guesing that he cannot) hamerhand would actualy be an awesome power (omg!). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173570-karamazov-question/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prathios Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 I think karamazov is prety cool, just had a question on wording. does karamazov's servo skull let him buy a psycic power? his entry describes him as not being able to purchase aditional equipment, but the servo skull (familiar) alows him to buy an extra power. if so (and im guesing that he cannot) hamerhand would actualy be an awesome power (omg!). no, it doesn't allow you to buy an extra one it allows you to use an extra one per turn, so since he has no powers he cannot get them. You take him as is, nothing extra. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173570-karamazov-question/#findComment-2051518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rahveel Posted July 16, 2009 Author Share Posted July 16, 2009 I think karamazov is pretty cool, just had a question on wording. does karamazov's servo skull let him buy a psychic power? his entry describes him as not being able to purchase additional equipment, but the servo skull (familiar) allows him to buy an extra power. if so (and I'm guessing that he cannot) hamerhand would actually be an awesome power (omg!). no, it doesn't allow you to buy an extra one it allows you to use an extra one per turn, so since he has no powers he cannot get them. You take him as is, nothing extra. eh? the entry for familiar states "for each familiar the Inquisitor has in his retinue, he may purchase one more power than is normally allowed" karamazov's entry says 2 things I think are relevant to this 1) "karamazov and his retinue are treated as one individual model" [skipping ahead a bit] "the inquisitor lord is also accompanied by a servo-skull familiar" 2)"He may not be given additional equipment from the witch hunters armory" arguments that he can: -the psychic powers are not listed under, or ever linked to the armory in the WH book -even if they do count as armory items, the special rules of the familiar allow him to purchase one more than he is usually allowed (0+1) I am actually convincing myself a bit that he can.... ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173570-karamazov-question/#findComment-2051534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
panbient Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 the servo skull familiar is there to add a +1 to initiative. the line "he must be used exactly as described below" in the 2nd sentence of karamazov's description seems rather clear. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173570-karamazov-question/#findComment-2051864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rahveel Posted July 16, 2009 Author Share Posted July 16, 2009 I think in a tourney setting, you may be correct, that would probably be the ruling. However, to me, he is described 'below' as having a servo-skull and not an unusual, only initiative modifying servo-skull. I am asking all this as I am getting him for my brothers =][=/marine ally force at some point. I will most likely let him take a power, as it certainly doesn't seem overpowering. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173570-karamazov-question/#findComment-2051876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 I love Karamazov. The only thing that narks me is the lack of +1 WS he should have form having a Combat Servitor. Something that small should have been easily FAQed ages ago. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173570-karamazov-question/#findComment-2051879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rahveel Posted July 16, 2009 Author Share Posted July 16, 2009 True, his average WS is a negative, but at least his sword is master-crafted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173570-karamazov-question/#findComment-2051892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
panbient Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 However, to me, he is described 'below' as having a servo-skull and not an unusual, only initiative modifying servo-skull. I am asking all this as I am getting him for my brothers =][=/marine ally force at some point. I will most likely let him take a power, as it certainly doesn't seem overpowering. if you're just going to ignore everything anyone says in regards to the issue why even ask the question? you've obviously already made your decision. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173570-karamazov-question/#findComment-2051942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rahveel Posted July 17, 2009 Author Share Posted July 17, 2009 fair enough, just thought it was an interesting possibility people might want to discuss. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173570-karamazov-question/#findComment-2051978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffersonian000 Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 One of the cool things about Karamazov is that he is one of the few (if only) Imperial Monsterous Creatures. Not that that is all that useful. :lol: SJ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173570-karamazov-question/#findComment-2052074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rahveel Posted July 17, 2009 Author Share Posted July 17, 2009 I dunno, he is the only monsterous creature with a master crafted weapon (well, I supose there is warp time, and fortuned eldar MC's....). he can move unhindered through terain to bring his twin linked multimelta to bear on unsuspecting armor. And with the introduction of run, he can acually stand a chance of geting into melee. I guess I'm a fan :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/173570-karamazov-question/#findComment-2052090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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