The Lions of Shadow WT(Still?)

[commander alexander]

Hey this is kindof the final version and would like any finalising opinion on it.

Lions of Shadow

Succesor of: Secret :unsure:

Strength: Officially~1100

Color Scheme (in order of most used/coverage): Black, green, gray.

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The Lions of Shadow are a unique and skilled chapter. The Lions specialize in stealth and close combat fighting, often using these skills to set an ambush. Due to the centuries of this fighting style, their gene-seed has changed to better suit these skills. The Occulobe, Lyman's Ear, Omophagea, Neuroglottis, and Biscopea, have all increased slightly in strength, the chapter has found that their gene-seed has mutated. The veterans of the chapter often "acquire" some animal like traits. Even though the chapters main fighting style is infiltration, and assault, the marksman (heavy weapons, tank commanders) of the chapter take great pride in their abilities.

The chapter is unfortunately at a disadvantage in open fields, were there is little cover, armies of more amassed fire power can be used against the chapter to their full effect.

Iconagraphy, Beliefs

The Lions of Shadow are not unlike many other chapters in the core of their beliefs, to serve the Emperor, and the Imperium to the best of their abilities. Although some chapters despise fighting alongside the likes of the Imperial Guard, and the Inquisition, the Lions hold no such barriers. The Lions will fight alongside any ally as long as it serves as a tactical advantage. In fact, many veterans in the chapter have served in the deathwatch, which often leads to the chapter gaining certain privileges and favors from members of the Inquisition. The chapter of course, has iconography of the lion, a symbol of righteousness, strength, and purity through-out the Imperium. But they also have other influences about their person. Also the ram, angels, and eagles, are included in their iconography.

Organisation and Leaders

Chapter;

Alexander is not chapter master, the chapter (as in the council) has tried to revive him on one other occasion, in which he awoke, enraged as ever and went about killing four captains (the last survivors of their founding, with the exception of Reziel and Ares) , so they let sleeping dogs (Lions) lie (lay?).

Companies: 11. . The tenth company is the armoured company, the eleventh is the scout. The tenth consists of the chapters techmarines, and any vehicles and their crew that are not dreadnoughts, or transports standardly attacthed to companies, although all are in their care.

However, due to the fleetlike operation of the companies, the tenth and eleventh companies are "shared" or split up amongst the other companies.

---Notable Leaders, Members.

-Chapter master: None. Lead by council of captains and other chapter leaders, who elect a "campaign master(s)", to lead the current campaign(s) the chapter is involved in.

-Reziel, Ancient, Dreadnought, head of the council, and Master of the Reclusiam leads the chapter into battle. His fury is that of a mountain.

-Master of the Forge: Ares. An ancient of the chapter. His wisdom is one of the greates assets to the chapter.

-1st Company:Terminator Veteran comany. They are the lions with silver manes.

-2nd Company: Assault/bike company. Captain Hector, Master of the blade.

-3rd Company: Battle company. Captain Cepholus, the head-hunter, tactician, and honored brother.

Sqauds within the companies:

Sqauds range in numbers of five, to numbers of ten. Often Sqauds are deployed independantly, also groups of squads(~2-3) may be deployed as "packs". Although "Prides", large companies or groups of companies are more likely to operate indepently fromm the chapter, making the chapter fleetlike, and often recruitment may happen on another world, although it is frowned upon. Squads are formed from recruits across the planet, often encouraging some friendly competition among their brothers, yet respect and trust are held in the highest regard. Often, if the mission allows it, brothers compete for the big kill or trophy. If anything of notable value or importance is attained, it is kept safe, until the marine reaches veteran status, and may carry marks and trophies.

The Forge/Armory:

The forge is somewhat unique compared to that of other chapters. Techmarines are regarded with respect in the chapter, as much you would respect a sgt. from a different squad. Techmarines are known to hunt their own trophies, such as tanks and weapons of xenos. Due to the chapters affiliation with the Deathwatch, research of xenos tech is permitted as long as it serves purpose in fighting them. Ares, the master of the forge has been alive since before the heresy, and his knowledge of technology is valuable. Ares, when not in need, is usually in stasis, as his body is suprisingly unaltered. Ares believes that the most beutifal machine, is that of the astartes form, and has only replaced what has permanently been lost. This is also reflected upon the other techmarines of the chapter. Something else that is different about the techmarines of the chapter, is their role on the battlefield. The techmarines fill their normal roles, it is not unheardof for them to lead squads or packs. This is often because of his valuable experience and knowledge, as well as his abilities in the field.

Hunt for the Fallen

Unlike their DA bretheren, the Lions do not resort to such dark, and near heretical ways to punish the fallen. In battle, those who are members of the council seek out the fallen, they honorably fight them in single combat, and before they land the finishing blow,(asuming the fallen is on his back, mortally wounded) they inquire their names, and any information they are willing to give, and send their soul to the emperor with the purity of the blade.

Homeworld

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Conifara is planet outside of Imperial space, past the Segmenum Obscurus in the Cyngus Arm.

Their planet is a deathworld, it consists of mountains, forests, polar regions, and oceans. The forests are moslty coniferous in nature. the reason its a deathworld is because within the shadows in the forest lurk an untold number of extremely dangerous predators. The most dangerous of thes animals, is the shadow lion. It is a great beast, covered in black and greay fur, and eyes a green so dark it may as well be black. These lions are cunning, and ferocious, and have been known to slaughter whole villages by attacking them outright, or by picking them off, one by one. But of course, there are exceptions. Lions that live near the coast tend to be smaller, as food sources on land become more scarce. Lions towards the polar regions tend to be white or grey, and their eyesight in low light areas is far weaker. In these other enviroments, different predators may come to the top off the food chain, such as great serpents from the ocean, and birdlike creatures that decend upon their prey without a whisper.

The people are tribal, roaming the forests, mountains, coasts, and glaciers for food, hunting with basic weapons. Many tribes very in their culture, from language to skills and physcal appearance to mental attitude. It is a great source of pride for any of these people to bring down a predator of notable size, and often become leaders of their tribe. If bringing down one of these beasts is to be a hereo, to tame one is to be a legend. These mighty men truly become myth among their tribe, the great hunters of their stories. Altough their time in the tribe is much less romantic than their stories portray. When an animal has been tamed, the person is treated as an outcast, nearly an animal themselves, all due to the strong and somewhat needed mistrust of the forest and the animals. These people are masters of the hunt, and masters of silence, always waiting for the right moment to strike, those that dont, die.

The Fortress-Monestary is Hidden within the granite mountains. these mountains are dangerous to traverse, consisting of near shear cliffs, and unstable footing, and encircle miles of valleys in the northern continent. The Lions of Shadow are all but completely unknown to the tribal people, who live outside these mountains. The chapter recruits the people, by observation. They watch in the shadows to see who of them start to become great hunter-warriors. This contributes to small tithes, and the chapter suffers when they take many casualties.

There are also other worlds, a forgeworld, a hive world, a ghost world(minerals and weapons testing/training), and an agriworld dedictated to supporting the chapter and nearby imperial establishments.

Reziel did not only choose this world for its recruits, but also for its forests, the likes of which were similar to those of Caliban.

Indoctrination

The recruitment of new marines for the Lions is a slow process. It is up to the sgts. of the 11th company to see this task out. The marines are ever watchful over the tribes of their planet, never interfeering, but always watching. Those young men which aspire to become strong and cunning warrior hunters are selected to become astartes. Some sgt.s allow their recruits to say farwell to their tribe, most do not. And if these young men bear trophies of the hunt, they may not bear them until they reach veteran status, or until death. Upon reaching veteran status, marines may have their own personal heraldry, most often from the lore and culture of their tribes. Most however already have tattoes apon them, a sign of strength and the beggining of manhood in the majority of the tribes.

Recent History

Currently finished two campaigns in the eastern fringe of the galaxy against the races of the tau, and tyranids.Ancient Brother Reziel wished to have the chapter gain expeience against the tryanid race, as he fears them as a great threat against the Imperium. Involvment against the Tau empire was a request of the Deathwatch, in particular, the capture and study of xenos and xenos technology, something some of the techmarines where eager to execute. The recapture of Sa'Tar from the tau, a small imperial world was quite successful. The ruble and ruins of imperial buildings was used to great advantage by the Lions of Shadow, some even claiming the head of ethreals and enemy commanders in the deadly assaults and ambush'. The world was taken with minimal casualties, although the enemy was still able to withdraw. During the “mop-up” of this world, Captain Cepholus was assassinated. Veteran Sgt, Augustus pursued. Augustus has identified the assailant as a dark eldar assassin, but was nearly killed in the pursuit, and the xenos escaped. The reason as to why the assassination occurred is unknown, as the chapter has had very few encounters with the dark eldar.

On the world Kuniyo, the Lions of Shadow have suffered. With the threat of tyranid attack growing, the chapter deployed six full companies, with substantial support from the armored company. There was little time to deploy and ready themselves before the tyranid assault, and where only able to build minimal fortifications around the capital hive city, Yusai. With minimal cover in the open hills around the city, the Lions were at a disadvantage, and the tyranids were able to charge in great swarms. The Lions made huge gun lines, making use of whatever cover they could, the chapter suffered the loss of nearly three companies in these desperate last stands before being reinforced by the Fire Lords and the Marines Exemplar. The Lions of Shadow owe these chapters their gratitude, and made the offer of their help in return, whenever needed.

Game Play

As said in the chapters traits and tactics, they like to get into assault via infiltration or rapid deployment. I will use codex:Space Wolves, as when I found out with its new release, that the codex fit my chapter well. Although I will use other codex' sometimes for fun ;) .

[Ferrata]

Okay, how did they come to having this Iron Hand-esque command structure; the lack of a single leader and a council running the show?

Is there parent a chapter a secret or just undecided at this moment?

Accurate fire and devastating assaults? Seems a little too good at both ends of the spectrum. In relation to an average Space Marine chapter; a DIY Chapter which is better at assaulting should be worse at shooting (as a general rule of thumb, you can have slight exceptions if they really lack elsewhere).

[commander alexander]

They intend to keep their founding chapter a secret. That is meant to be Some guys lay down the accurate firepower(not supergood, but they have a few marksman), to cover the men charging in to the assault causing devestation. Also I had no clue that the Iron Hands or any other chapter for that matter had similar command structures.

[Ferrata]

Maybe they utilise a high number of Sniper Scouts which allow they same job to be done. This fits with the shadow idea and you can say they don't like sending their scouts to die in combat as they are the future. Yes, the Iron Hands do not have a single commander, they have a council of the clans :D

[Grey Hunter Ydalir]

Lions of Shadow, the name doesn't quite jibe with me. The Lion, a particularly potent symbol of pride, strength and raw aggression. Coupling the bold Lion with shadows of any sort seems like a juxtaposition of themes that just doesn't work.

 

I'd recommend a change of name.

 

Also I had no clue that the Iron Hands or any other chapter for that matter had similar command structures.

 

Well there is a really easy way to remedy that. Go to the Librarium and have a look at the articles on the Primarchs and official chapters. You might want to also read a few of the IA's that are already in there for a preview of what a finished, well refined IA looks like.

 

There isn't much else I can comment on at the moment really, not enough information here to do anything with. Thus I recommend heavily that you read the Guide to DIY'ing.

[commander alexander]

Thanks for the link, Im reading it right now. Also the name might not make sense to you but it does to me, and it has a meaning. The name/whole idea/fluff of the chapter is that they move apon the battlefield like shadows, but when they reveal themselves, they are anparalelled (spelling? :huh: ) in ferocity, like a lion. Also lions sneekup before they attack because they usually cant outrun or outlast their prey.

 

Also at Ferrata, I do like sniper scouts, their cheap, somewhat usefull, and a pain in the rear to my opponents. As far as shooting, they dont have a huge use of it like other chapters, but they will have veterans from the devastator reserve companies, just like any other chapter, so truly no difference. Except we either like quiet shooting (snipers), or things that "roar", say a demolisher :D ?

 

[Edit] Okay I read the first three parts. The reason I dont post much in information or details, is I have to work all day and usually into the evening, so writing/finding already written stuff is slow. So I am tired. Good noght to all, and to all a good night.

[Leethal]

Male lions are lazy. Lionesses do all the work.

 

If you want something fierce, yet "sneaky", try some of the other big cats: Panthers, Jaguars, Leopards. ...Maybe Tigers, they hide I know that.....and tend to be solitary. Hmm. Think I'll go look up Tigers now.

[ChaplainMathreyn]

RAWR! Ahem... Sorry.... I had ot get that out of my system...

 

Shadow Panthers or Jaguars would be cool name potentials. Smoke Jaguars maybe... >.> <.< ... Just sayin'...

 

Are there any other "sneaky" type animal big cat totems...?

 

Lead by council of captains and other chapter leaders.

 

Do they get alot done? ... I never think of the Marines as being to Democratic in their decisions. Don't get meh wrong, I'm not saying it stinks, blah blah blah, but some food for your thoughts!

 

Peace! :pinch:

[commander alexander]

Thanks for the replies you guys :lol:. As far as the name, think of a really grumpy, PO'd, woken up from his nap male lion. As far as the other big cats, well Im just not that in to how they sound, btw if I did have something like, say panthers? I would have to do the Pink Panthers, just absolutely have to. I can just hear " OMG, look at that PP army!" :D

 

A couple questions first.

1) what was the name of the one high lord of terra in flight of the Eisenstien? Is he still alive?

2) When was the earliest the DAs had a well established bad rep/rumors?

[commander alexander]

Anyone? :D Again this is all able to change. The whole Alexander and Co., sucked into the warp, spit back out, and shying away from their DA bretheren, is the stuff Ive been working on for a while so Im a little more solid on that, but I am definitely willing to change if I can get some feedback.

[Ace Debonair]

With regards to question 3:

I don't believe space marines, even Primarchs, could have children.

I'm sure I read that somewhere on here. I just don't recall where. :o

 

Besides, if primarchs could have children, there'd quite rightly be hundreds of the buggers by now in everybody's stories. My chapter would probably be lead by an entire cast of them. :)

Make Alexander a talented captain, by all means. Make him psychic, sure, no problem there. Pretty sure they'd find that out about him early on in his training, but I'm not certain. But please, try not to make him too awesome. We all want awesome heroes, but making your captain way overpowerful is just unfair on everyone else. ;)

 

You're right, in other words, it certainly does contradict the guidelines laid out in the DIY guide article. Not sure it's a good idea to drag too much of the first-founding chapter stuff into the stories - a lot of people will start asking really awkward questions about it.

 

I do however like the idea that the chapter's Dark Angels origin is unclear, if I've understood the end of your story correctly. The only big question I have with that is, why?

Why would the Lions of Shadow want to keep their past secret from other Dark Angels chapters?

 

And if there's one thing I've learned in my short time here, it's that you Do not mess with the geneseeds. Ever. Meaning you don't have people hacking them up and botching new ones together, be it a 50/50 split or a 95/5 split. I'm truly sorry if that sounds harsh, and I can tell you that finding this out kicked many of my plot devices in the head too, but you'll find other people will be quite adamant about this.

 

Instead, concerning the origins of the chapter, have it so that imperial records state different things, perhaps. Some say Dark Angels, others Ultramarine or Raven Guard, or what-have-you.

 

I think we'd all like to hear what has become of the chapter since it's early days, too. You know. What have they done for us lately, and all that jazz.

 

I like the colours too, by the way. :)

[Ferrata]

Don't play with the Primarchs, it is always a bad idea. It has never been discussed whether the Primarchs could sire children or not; mainly because it doesn't matter. You don't need to have a secret son of a Primarch to make an interesting character, neither does he need to be super-duper. Also, Magnus was a supreme psyker so The lion had no more psychic potential than the rest of the primarchs is way wrong :D

[commander alexander]

As far as the psychic potential, it was meant to be the average of them, not magnus. Also I will not mess with geneseed and primaarch stuff, just wanted opinion. As far as not wanting to be a known DA successor there are two reasons. 1) Their legion almost betrayed the emperor, normal DAs still seek repentance anyways. 2) At the time they re-imerged from the warp, their leggion (DAs) had fallen far from its past glory, and was widely dispised, so unlike DAs they seek repentance via honorable service.

 

Here is another idea I have had for a while. My master of the forge, is the only one who is as old as Reziel. He was not a senior techmarine during the heresy, but close. He has an extensive knowledge of pre-heresy technology because of that. He is suprisingly whole for his age. He has a rather unique view, that the human body, that of the astartes in particular, is the most beutiful/perfect machine. He has very few bionics, in fact he only replaced things permanently lost in battle. Bacause the chapter values him so much, he very rarely attends the field of battle, and is often in stasis.

 

BTW Im editting the other posts.

[Ferrata]

Two things; the involvement with pre-heresy/heresy legions is still too much and everything you wish for can be done with a 'normal' chapter :D

 

The Dark Angels are not widely dispised, especially soon after the heresy. Their fall of half their legion is not known outside of the Unforgiven and it is only of later years that the High Lords have begunt o look on the chapter with some suspicion, but that is brought about more by their actions and secrecy than any knowledge of the Fallen.

 

If you wouldn't mind, would you break down the key concepts of the final chapter which you feel must come from this convulated past.

[commander alexander]

Thats why erlier I had asked by what time the DAs had gotten a bad rep. Regardless, Reziel and the others were ashamed, and wished to no longer be associated with them, and sought salvation from honorable service.

 

Ive gotten some Devastators painted in this color scheme, and it looks very shadowy. Actual colors are DA green, chaos black, and fenris gray. Ive got a heavy bolter ith robes painted in the grey and then washed with black, and it looks really good.

[commander alexander]

Hey guys, Im trying to come up with the home world, system, and sector. As I am fairly new to the whole 40k universe (~1 year) I dont know that much about which sectors or systems are "taken". Or can I kinda make it all up myself? But i do know what I want the system and planets to be like.

[commander alexander]

Thanks for the help you guys........

Anyways this is what Ive gotten so far. Their planet is a deathworld, it consists of mountains, forests, polar regions, and oceans. The forests are moslty coniferous in nature. the reason its a deathworld is because within the shadows in the forest lurk an untold number of extremely dangerous predators. The people are tribal, roaming the forests and mountains for food, hunting with basic weapons. It is a great source of pride for any of these people to bring down a predator of notable size. The most dangerous of thes animals, is the shadow lion. It is a great beast, covered in black and greay fur, and eyes a green so dark it may as well be black. These lions are cunning, and ferocious, and have been known to slaughter whole villages by attacking them outright, or by picking them off, one by one. These people are masters of the hunt, and masters of silence, always waiting for the right moment to strike, those that dont, die.

 

The Fortress-Monestary is Hidden within the granite mountains. these mountains are dangerous to traverse, consisting of near shear cliffs, and unstable footing, and devide the upermost pert of the northern continent. The Lions of Shadow are all but completely unknown to the tribal people, who live to south of these mountains, and play no role in their life or culture. To the North of these mountains, towards the polar region is were the Lions of shadow do the majority of their training. The chapter recruits the people, by observation. They watch in the shadows to see who of them start to become great hunter-warriors. This contributes to small tithes, and the chapter suffers when they take many casualties.

 

There are also other worlds, a forgeworld, a hive world, a ghost world(minerals and weapons testing/training), and an agriworld dedictated to supporting the chapter and nearby imperial establishments.

[Captain Cirrius]

I'm really liking the whole home world idea. I'm guessing that since the people are tribal and not yet into their gunpowder age (i think :lol: ) that they have not yet been shown the light of the Emperor.

 

Wouldnt it be cool if the tribes held mass competitions where they would pitch their strongest hunters out into the wild and they would compete to see who could bring down the largest of these Shadow Lion creatures. Your chapter would then stop by and pick up the winner(s) to be Space Marines. Since the tribe is still very primitive, they believe that the Gods are taking their "chosen ones" away to serve them in whatever form of heaven they believe in. Once recruited, the hunters chosen are brought to the holy light of the Emperor and serve as Space Marines.

 

Just an idea, use it if you wish :D

[commander alexander]

Great minds think alike B) . That was actually the whole idea. The space marines hide, ever watchfull of the tribesmen, seeing which of the young men and boys aspire to be cunning and successfull warrior-hunters. But killing a lion is almost unheard of to these people. If anyone killed one, even a real young one, they would have a strong say, if not lead whatever sort of politics the tribes have. This makes it pretty much impossible for young boys/men to do so, but I do have a cool story for a certain special character ;) ;) .

And yes they are tribal, as in native american, or moorwin (spelling? You know the tribal people of the british isles.). Also some chapters let there men hunt on their home world right? Well that privilage is reserved for proven veterans and heroes of the chapter, as in 1st co. vet. sgts. if not captains.

 

 

And thankyou for the reply!!!!!!!!!!!!

[commander alexander]

GAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!! TRIPLE POSTAGE!!!!!!!!

-Sorry B)

[commander alexander]

GAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!! TRIPLE POSTAGE!!!!!!!!

-Sorry B)

[Captain Cirrius]

I actually didnt read the whole thing, just the replies and your answers. I think its pretty good though :D

[commander alexander]

Thanks. :)

[commander alexander]

Hey as Ace asked for some more recent history of the chapter, such as major involvments, I have a few questions.

1.) What are some major (known) conflicts that are safe to have my chapter to be involved in?

2.) Is it safe to drag in major chapters into a conflict for fluff purposes?

3.) I would like my chapter to have an arch-nemisis or major foe, any suggestions?

4.) Do you want a full little short story of the battle? Or just an outline?

 

You have plenty of time to post as I will be at my county fair for 4 days I believe, so feel free to ponder (and if you wouldnt mind) and do some thinking, or something. :wallbash:

 

Oh and also @ Ferrata, I have been thinking about your' comment on the DA's not being widely despised, especially soon (relatively) after the heresy. Would it be possible, and slightly ironic/fluffy that the world they landed on had been abandoned by them before?

[Leethal]

Dark Angels are not despised.

 

Dark Angels and successors have been known to pull out to go chase Fallen, but usually, as Space Marines, they are given a critical location to attack or defend.

 

The rapid withdrawal, would have lead everyone else on the planet to die, a horrible miserable death. As such, no one can file a complaint, as they are all dead.

 

To a world that have been left behind by Dark Angels....civilians wouldn't know anything, and all the Guard and etc should have died if the Dark Angels did leave the battle abruptly.

 

So.....highly unlikely, and PDF should have taken the brunt of the casualties, so any of them surviving to see the DA leave is highly unlikely, as for the Guard, well they get shuffled around, and those who did see would have died there, or later on in life without knowledge. The fleet on the other hand, is more likely to notice and survive. And it depends on which Dark Angel successor and whatnot, as we leave no witnesses. So......unlikely.

 

And the Worlds the DA leaves are usually brutalized to the point of inhabitable. If the Dark Angels get away with killing Inquisitors, blowing up fellow Space Marine Strike Cruisers, a world ain't gonna do jack. I think you'd be safer off with a space hulk, that the Dark Angels didn't completely save and escaped into the warp. Something along the lines of Dark Angels came to kill whatever, and then they turned their guns on them, many onboard died, but some live in secrecy and blah blah.

 

Oh, and most Vets serving on the Deathwatch? :D Dark Angels and Successors rarely send out Marines to join the Deathwatch. And when they come back, they are stigmatized. But then, you...kinda broke off so...that can be okay.

 

 

It is not safe to ever use a major chapter into a conflict or for fluff. Unless, the major chapter in question fields their force at Company or squad strength. Anything over a Company is just bad news waiting to happen. And PLEASE don't save the Major Chapter from certain doom.