SamaNagol Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 So I wanted to expand my list and make it a bit more varied in case I should get bored of PAGK and Land Raiders. First things first I go straight to look at Storm Troopers..... How can GW sell a boxed set of 4 special weapons STs for £11.75 and you only get one Melta Gun. And you cannot buy them separately. That is obscene. Actually obscene. That has put me off spending any money today. Edit: lol and the Kasrkin come in boxes of 2 with a Plasma Gunner. Urgh. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/174060-are-gw-actually-kidding/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdie Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 And you cannot buy them separately. £4.50 for 5 Meltaguns, look here; http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/...dId=prod1400031 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/174060-are-gw-actually-kidding/#findComment-2057419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted July 22, 2009 Author Share Posted July 22, 2009 Dude, I could use plastic cadians and the spare plastic Melta guns I have on my Space Marine sprues, but they would look completely out of place compared the the IST models. Thanks for the pointer though I am more astounded by such nefarious money making tactics on the part of GW. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/174060-are-gw-actually-kidding/#findComment-2057433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marid Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I believe the SM Devastator boxed set has a similar problem, but at least you can buy single blisters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/174060-are-gw-actually-kidding/#findComment-2058295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
revnow Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 www.thewarstore.com search: melta or meltagun, they sell them individually, but its a bit expensive. Remember that meltas weren't boss back in 4th Edition when Kasarkin were designed, Plasmas ruled the day. Also there are a lot cheaper ways to may STs than buying Kasarkin. If you have a decent number of SM and Guard bits Scouts, Cadian, Catachan and generic Guard weapon can be combined to make melta ISTs. http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn5/revnow85/DSCF0250.jpg The two meltagunners are Cadian flamer arms/backpacks with the flamers cut out and replaced by a heavy stubber with the barrel removed and exhaust vents drilled out, and a melta bomb glued into the ejection port. Since I'm going to need to make a few more in the next couple of weeks I'd be willing to post a tutorial if there is interest. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/174060-are-gw-actually-kidding/#findComment-2058777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tuditanus Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I suggest BitzBarn.com over Warstore, the prices are a bit better. But I also heavily recommend the gent above me and his conversion solution :devil: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/174060-are-gw-actually-kidding/#findComment-2058799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted July 23, 2009 Author Share Posted July 23, 2009 You seem to miss my point. I could build untold numbers of generic converted Storm Troopers with Melta Guns. I am just absolutely gobsmacked that GW have the cheek to ONLY sell IST special weapons in packs of 4. And it's one of each. I mean, when have you ever in your life seen someone take a squad of ISTs with a Grenade Launcher? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/174060-are-gw-actually-kidding/#findComment-2058879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tuditanus Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 You seem to miss my point. I could build untold numbers of generic converted Storm Troopers with Melta Guns. I am just absolutely gobsmacked that GW have the cheek to ONLY sell IST special weapons in packs of 4. And it's one of each. I mean, when have you ever in your life seen someone take a squad of ISTs with a Grenade Launcher? I have, and do. Some people don't always care enough to have to max out the kill factor in EVERYTHING. Launchers can be quite useful! I've seen Logan Grimnar killed with one in a pick-up game... That army went on to win the mini-tourney that day. Though I do admit, it IS a bit cheeky. But it's GW... So it shouldn't be TOO big a deal ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/174060-are-gw-actually-kidding/#findComment-2058881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Fox Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I do as well.. in fact my favored special weapons for Storm Troopers, both Inq and IG is grenade launchers and meltaguns. I don't like plasma fluffwise, and gamewise I don't want to blow up my own men, not to mention the points savings. The grenade launcher also is a 24" assault weapon, which is fantastic on the move, and the krak grenades are incredibly effective and decent even against light vehicles. It's a cheap special weapon and incredibly useful. Everyone else can be plasma hounds, I'll take my humble grenade launchers any day. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/174060-are-gw-actually-kidding/#findComment-2058887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vedrial Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Grenade Launcher = 24" Assault Storm Bolter on Veteran = 24" Assault Multi-Laser or Heavy Bolter on Chimera = 36" Storm Bolter on Chimera = 24" Defensive Weapon What's that? Move 6" and fire a Multi-Laser or Heavy Bolter, 2 Storm Bolters and Grenade Launcher, while protected by AV12? Why, yes, I think I will. Oh yeah, and they're scoring. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/174060-are-gw-actually-kidding/#findComment-2059189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Tyrak Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 SamaNagol Posted Yesterday, 10:26 PM You seem to miss my point. I could build untold numbers of generic converted Storm Troopers with Melta Guns. I am just absolutely gobsmacked that GW have the cheek to ONLY sell IST special weapons in packs of 4. And it's one of each. I'm afraid that's just how GW seems to be working at the moment - more money, less customer satisfaction. "Theirs not to make reply, theirs not to reason why, theirs but to go and buy" seems to be their attitude towards us at the moment. :) If you're not strongly attached to the Stormtrooper models, I can highly recommend the Kasrkin models, not least since they might just benefit from the IG second wave releases. Otherwise, you'll just have to live with it. :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/174060-are-gw-actually-kidding/#findComment-2059684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilgar Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 Grenade Launcher = 24" Assault Storm Bolter on Veteran = 24" Assault Multi-Laser or Heavy Bolter on Chimera = 36" Storm Bolter on Chimera = 24" Defensive Weapon What's that? Move 6" and fire a Multi-Laser or Heavy Bolter, 2 Storm Bolters and Grenade Launcher, while protected by AV12? Why, yes, I think I will. Oh yeah, and they're scoring. I like it. But how do u get that Storm Bolter on the Chimera? IG Chimera? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/174060-are-gw-actually-kidding/#findComment-2060215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlauG Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 It's just +10pts from the Inquisition Vehicle armoury isn't it? Since they're Inquisition Stormtroopers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/174060-are-gw-actually-kidding/#findComment-2060240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Fox Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 I like it. But how do u get that Storm Bolter on the Chimera? IG Chimera? Pintle Mounted Storm Bolter adds the extra. Now the Storm Bolter on the vet.. well.. personally I'd just add more Grenade Launchers B) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/174060-are-gw-actually-kidding/#findComment-2060565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyalist Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 My Arbites army (counts as IG in carapace armour) does well with grenade launchers as the most common squad special weapon. (The second edition Necromunda Arbites only had the grenade launcher as a special weapon but I dremelled and filed off bolters from other Arbites and replaced them with SM flamers and plasma guns.) This IG force is the one I most often add Inquisitorial allies to. Its Veteran Squads of shotgun-armed Arbites are also used as Witch Hunter Troops. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/174060-are-gw-actually-kidding/#findComment-2076564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakehunter52 Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 SamaNagol Posted Yesterday, 10:26 PM You seem to miss my point. I could build untold numbers of generic converted Storm Troopers with Melta Guns. I am just absolutely gobsmacked that GW have the cheek to ONLY sell IST special weapons in packs of 4. And it's one of each. I'm afraid that's just how GW seems to be working at the moment - more money, less customer satisfaction. "Theirs not to make reply, theirs not to reason why, theirs but to go and buy" seems to be their attitude towards us at the moment. :lol: Ho ho ho...sir, let me present you a fine retort: http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/...dId=prod1070094 Packs of the two best special weapons FTW. Lets just hope that you are using the newer, better and made of win models rather than the old and busted kind that they seem to be promoting with the new codex. :P And now for another fine retort of the Tyrak's retort: Shipping is free right now for stuff you buy off of their site AND it is upgraded to next day shipping! AMAZING! I didn't know this a couple of days ago and imagine my surprise when I get my stuff the next day. Yes, usually bad. But this month (with the tax free holiday), very pleasurable sir. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/174060-are-gw-actually-kidding/#findComment-2076871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzerkopf Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 (Edit) posted this by accident before I could finish the following post. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/174060-are-gw-actually-kidding/#findComment-2077074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzerkopf Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 SamaNagol Posted Yesterday, 10:26 PM You seem to miss my point. I could build untold numbers of generic converted Storm Troopers with Melta Guns. I am just absolutely gobsmacked that GW have the cheek to ONLY sell IST special weapons in packs of 4. And it's one of each. I'm afraid that's just how GW seems to be working at the moment - more money, less customer satisfaction. "Theirs not to make reply, theirs not to reason why, theirs but to go and buy" seems to be their attitude towards us at the moment. :( Ho ho ho...sir, let me present you a fine retort: http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/...dId=prod1070094 Packs of the two best special weapons FTW. Lets just hope that you are using the newer, better and made of win models rather than the old and busted kind that they seem to be promoting with the new codex. B) And now for another fine retort of the Tyrak's retort: Shipping is free right now for stuff you buy off of their site AND it is upgraded to next day shipping! AMAZING! I didn't know this a couple of days ago and imagine my surprise when I get my stuff the next day. Yes, usually bad. But this month (with the tax free holiday), very pleasurable sir. -_- The older Stormtrooper models are totally sweet, and GW are still total bastards. $20 for five Space Marine Scouts. In order to make my army of counts-as Inquisition Special Forces with the scout models, it'll cost me $160 for four squads of ten. I make about that much in a week, so I can do it so long as I don't drive or eat or pay bills. It's crap like that that made me move away from 40k in the first place. GW can suck it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/174060-are-gw-actually-kidding/#findComment-2077075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Tyrak Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 Ho ho ho...sir, let me present you a fine retort:http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/...dId=prod1070094 Packs of the two best special weapons FTW. Lets just hope that you are using the newer, better and made of win models rather than the old and busted kind that they seem to be promoting with the new codex. :lol: He is using the older Stormtroopers (I suspect that means he won't agree with your opinion of them, but anyway). However, only one set of Stormtroopers is catered for in the way that your link shows, and it's not the older ones. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/174060-are-gw-actually-kidding/#findComment-2077229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted August 12, 2009 Author Share Posted August 12, 2009 Yes, I had to use the Kasrkin, which are nice enough models, but they are not ISTs unfortunately. So for the sake of unity my entire order had to be KAsrkin. Which annoyed me no end. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/174060-are-gw-actually-kidding/#findComment-2077290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzerkopf Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 I use a mix of both ISTs and Kasrkin models in my force. Oftentimes, when a military organization adopts new equipment, they won't have enough of the new gear to go around so a lot of guys end up with the old stuff. That's the way I rationalized the mix of models in my army. Besides minor things like the helmets and respirators, both types look pretty similar so I only needed to give them the same paintjob so that they'd be uniform. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/174060-are-gw-actually-kidding/#findComment-2077300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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