Ghost Emperor Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 My question concerns a problem my friend and I encountered while playing Eldar. He likes to take Wraithguard with a Warlock + Spirit Stone, which is pretty much the standard build for them. However, we're a bit unclear as to whether or not a squad of Wraithguard with a Warlock attached are fearless or not. A squad is normally fearless only if everyone in the squad is. However, the Warlock is not stated to be fearless anywhere, even when attached to Wraithguard. The GW FAQ had no answer for this. Does anyone know the answer to this? It seems intuitive that the Warlock should get fearless since he's attached to a unit that has it normally, but it also makes sense that he wouldn't because it isn't stated anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty the Pyro Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 Fearless is not marked with an * the unit is still fearless. Also if a fearless IC joins a unit the unit gains fearless from my understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 That issue is explained in the "fearless" rules on page 75 in the rulebook. Basicaly, it is allways depending on the Unit, not the Independent Character. If the unit is fearless, but the character is not, then the whole of Unit + Character will be fearless. If the unit is not fearless, but the character is, then the whole of unit + character will not be fearless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty the Pyro Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 A wiser man has spoken, so listen to Legatus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 A Warlock isnt a character- its a unit upgrade, and it cannot take spiritstones. A Farseer is a character, and can take spiritstones... so Im going to assume that was what you were refering to, and so legatus is correct. I am curious though.... how is it affected by a squad upgrade that isnt fearless? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonsword Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I think he means the spiritseer upgrade that keeps wraithguard and wraithlords from needing to worry about a 1-in-6 chance of blue screening for a round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nighthawks Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 additionally, it would be wise to remember that Characters aren't necessarily independent. tactical squad sgts, for example, are characters (upgrade characters, specifically). see P47 of the BRB for character info. Wraithguard's unit entry in the "beastiary" (for lack of a better term) of codex: Eldar (P46) states that they are fearless and convey fearless to any "characters" joining them. the warlock is stated as being a "character" in this instance, so would be fearless according to the wraithguard's fearless rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonsword Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 They are? I know they were under the 4th Ed. Codex, but are they still characters under the new C:SM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nighthawks Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 technically, the vet sgt of a C:SM tac squad is not an "upgrade" as he is a required member. but he is a character (not that it ever matters in that instance). so yeah - I could have picked a better example. think ork boys mob Nob instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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