couple pre-hersey related questions

[HellChyld]

Would officers of other legions wear any kind of winged icons on their chest plates?

I know the emperor's children wore the aqilla exculsively till after the hersey broke out but I'm more wondering like a winged fist on a IF's chest plate or a winged Ultra symbol on a Ultramarine and so on....

 

Would a Marine operating in a Fell Blade wear Legion Colors or techmarine colors? or a mix of the two before the hersey?

 

While building a Pre Hersey force would the armour make up consisiting of mostly mark 5 with a couple mark 6 mixed in with the officers and special characters wearing mark 2 thur 4. fit the proper time theme?

 

thanks for any answers on this as I hope to make my force look fluff fitting as possible.

[Brother Tuditanus]

MK VI was not in production until the tale end of the Heresy when Horus Lupercal seized Mars. This was also one of the major reasons why he wanted to seize Mars so completely, exclusive control of the new MK.

 

MK V is 'Heresy' armor made DURING the battles of the Heresy, kind of a hodge-podge of armor, trying to hasten the production time to be faster, less exspensive materials, etc..

 

So for a TRUE pre-heresy force, almost all of your marines would be in MK IV :) ... At least, that's what I recall.

 

As far as winged icons other than the Aquila, why not? Flight of the Eisentenien has Garro with an Eagle on his over-plate, so I say go for it.

 

For the techmarine, I honestly don't have an answer, but since the Mechanicum hasn't changed much, and they wear red as a sign that they are members of the cult mechanicum, I say err on the side of caution, go red.

[DavidKits]

Normally for such things like this I would look to my Horus Heresy art book. and in it i have seen numerous pictures of the other legions having there own Icon with wings. the biggest being a Unit of Ultramarines who were known as Gullimen's finest. they were his bodyguard in a way and literally had huge U-wings on there chests and shoulder guards. so i can see it.

 

as for armor types I think that the basic marines should be a mix and mash of mk. 2 through 4 with some mk 5s on say the sarges. as was stated before the mk 6 was produced late in the war but many were still taken by the Fists and issued out to the defenders of Earth before the big fight. so if you are making an Imperial Fist, White scars, or Blood Angels army I would see Mk. 6 put in here or there as a good idea more so on heros to be honest. granted Hero's may use the older armor but i imagine some would use the better to make them easier to find to both forces.

 

as for drivers of fellblades I never really saw a pilot but i imagine they would be in a cross between techmarine and legion colors much like the others. i remember seeing the picture of a loyalist ultra tech marine in the book who is mostly blue with a black backpack and the red adept shoulder guard. could work for him too.

 

peace.

[Pacific81]

Would officers of other legions wear any kind of winged icons on their chest plates?

I know the emperor's children wore the aqilla exculsively till after the hersey broke out but I'm more wondering like a winged fist on a IF's chest plate or a winged Ultra symbol on a Ultramarine and so on....

 

The Emperor's Children were the only Legion to get the blessing of the Emperor in their entirity when the Legion was newly created (source IA: Emperor's Children). It says the EC were unique in this honour, however, there were individual heroes of other legions who were given the symbol also by the Emperor (but I imagine it would be rare).

 

Would a Marine operating in a Fell Blade wear Legion Colors or techmarine colors? or a mix of the two before the hersey?

 

The techmarines we have pictures of in Collected Visions just have the colours of the legion - I would probably go for this predominantly (after all the marines are only operating the vehicle, they don't require the knowledge of a techmarine).

 

 

While building a Pre Hersey force would the armour make up consisiting of mostly mark 5 with a couple mark 6 mixed in with the officers and special characters wearing mark 2 thur 4. fit the proper time theme?

 

Ok this is a big, big question :lol: Brother Tuditanus has more or less hit the nail on the head, but I would make a few changes. Alot depends on the era you are modelling (and what stage of the Great Crusade) but assuming you are going with most and modelling late crusade/early heresy, then the armour would be predominantly mks 2, 3 and 4. However, we know from Battle for the Abyss that some marines had mk6 armour (Cestus is described as wearing 'Corvus' armour, which is the designation for mk6), and the old Warhammer 40,000 Compilation says that the armour was going into ciculation as the steps to the Heresy were being taken.

 

There has been a lot of discussion as to whether officers would be more likely to use the older, traditional armour types, or make use of the improvements in the newer versions. I favour the latter explanation, but really like so many things with pre-heresy its down to your own perception and just what you think will look cool! :)