o'rieley Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Hi all, I have the sneaking suspicion that Epistolaries cannot use two powers per phase, ie, two shooting powers, or two combat powers, but i am unsure and cannot find where it says i may not. Can i use two powers in the same phase or am i crazy? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175194-epistolary-librarians/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
angronn Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 I believe you can use two powers per phase, but only one that is fired (or used instead of shooting), as you can only fire your weapon once. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175194-epistolary-librarians/#findComment-2070722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koremu Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 There's no restriction beyond only shooting once. So yes, you can Teleport and Force Dome, or Null Zone and use a shooting power. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175194-epistolary-librarians/#findComment-2071060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
angronn Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 There's no restriction beyond only shooting once. So yes, you can Teleport and Force Dome, or Null Zone and use a shooting power. If a power says "used instead of shooting" as opposed to "used in the shooting phase", I would assume this would be limited to once as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175194-epistolary-librarians/#findComment-2071077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koremu Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 There's no restriction beyond only shooting once. So yes, you can Teleport and Force Dome, or Null Zone and use a shooting power. If a power says "used instead of shooting" as opposed to "used in the shooting phase", I would assume this would be limited to once as well. I would imagine so, with the additional restriction that, if the subject were capable of firing two weapons, "used instead of shooting" would block you from shooting at all, while psychic shooting attacks can be used as one of the two allowed shooting attacks. (what power uses that wording?) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175194-epistolary-librarians/#findComment-2071125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
angronn Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 (what power uses that wording?) Apparently none. I could have sworn I remembered one with that wording, but I looked through most of my codices back to 3rd ed. and couldn't find it. Well, chalk it up to a faulty memory. At least we've got the RAW worked out if it DOES come up, though! :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175194-epistolary-librarians/#findComment-2071197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 4th Edition 'Storm of the Emperor's Wrath', 'Fury of the Ancients', 'Fear of teh Darkness' and 'Vortex of Doom' are used in the shooting phase instead of firing a weapon. 5th Edition 'Null Zone' is used at the start of the shooting phase. 5th Edition 'Smite', 'Machine Curse', 'The Avenger' and 'Vortex of Doom' are psychic shooting attacks, which the 5th Edition rulebook describes counting as firing a ranged weapon when used. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175194-epistolary-librarians/#findComment-2071220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
angronn Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Yes, but they all specify "instead of firing a weapon" or "as their ranged attack", as opposed to "instead of shooting". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175194-epistolary-librarians/#findComment-2071222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Gabriel Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 My personal favorites are the ones that let you deal Str 6 hits with an addition d6 for armor pen, give fleet and init 10 - all at the beginning of the assault phase. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175194-epistolary-librarians/#findComment-2071226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffersonian000 Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 My personal favorites are the ones that let you deal Str 6 hits with an addition d6 for armor pen, give fleet and init 10 - all at the beginning of the assault phase. Those are two different powers, "Might of the Ancients" and "Quickening". Quickening was errata'd so the it's used in the movement phase (and not the assault phase as originally published), allowing Fleet to actually be used. SJ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175194-epistolary-librarians/#findComment-2071506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koremu Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 My personal favorites are the ones that let you deal Str 6 hits with an addition d6 for armor pen, give fleet and init 10 - all at the beginning of the assault phase. Those are two different powers, "Might of the Ancients" and "Quickening". Quickening was errata'd so the it's used in the movement phase (and not the assault phase as originally published), allowing Fleet to actually be used. SJ You could always use Fleet, but having the power used at the begining of the Assault Phase meant that you had to commit to the run move before knowing if the power works. And it's now used at the start of the Shooting phase, not the Movement phase. Makes it safer for the user, but less dramatic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175194-epistolary-librarians/#findComment-2071613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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