ripath Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Running a DH game and to add some flavor and demonstrate that free willed Sisters are not always liked by the system. I need some help with finding out how the sisters disciplinary system works. Bonus points for how a sister from a different order or area works in the system Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175429-sororitas-discipline/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegis Grimm Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 I admit I have not read much in the official GW cannon on the Sister's punitive system, but the Black Library novel Faith & Fire has a bit of discipline in it. **Edit** I tried to do that fancy thing where you have to highlight to read the spoiler but i failed.. *grumbles.. kid's and their fancy technology* **Spoiler Ahead** At the end of the novel a Celestian Veteran Sister is demoted all the way down to the rank of Battle Sister It appears it would depend upon the nature of the crime and the offenders influence within the organization. There is no mention in that book of the discipline system of the other Orders such as the Hospitaller, Orders Dialogous, or Orders Famulous. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175429-sororitas-discipline/#findComment-2073575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Orlock Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 I was under the impression that repentia-hood was mostly voluntary. So most cases are the girl herself feeling that she's failed in her duties and has join the unit to repent for her defects. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175429-sororitas-discipline/#findComment-2073859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sersi Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 When do sister not punish themselves. :) As far back as RT they routinely engaged in self flagellation, including the where clothing and other pain inducing devices to help focus the mind and remind them of the eternal suffering of the Emperor. The main concepts behind SOB is are faith and martyrdom. So, I'd expect them to use similar punishments to the medieval church. Penance might include things like a month of silence as punishment for insubordination or speaking out of turn. Fasting, and forced prayer, or extra duty. Suffering is food for the soul after all. Minor infractions might be punished by things like kneel for a painfully long period of time. Also according to Dark heresy, the new Sister Obstructa? replaces what the Repentia used to be, IE warriors on self imposed exiles and quests for redemption. Remember, that becoming a repentia now is essentially a death sentence. It would not be imposed for some trivial infraction. More likely it would be imposed for something like: cowardice in the face of the enemy, desertion of one post, or gross negligence. Anyway that's my take. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175429-sororitas-discipline/#findComment-2074061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzerkopf Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 This is taken from their unit entry in Codex: Witch Hunters: "those who fall short of the Sisterhood's rigorous codes may, in extreme cases (my italics), find themselves exiled from their order or banded into groups armed with the mighty ceremonial eviscerators... Indeed through a deep-seated desire to seek the Emperor's grace, some may willingly exile themselves, finding fault in the smallest imagined transgression". I've never seen anything very concrete on how discipline is meted out in the Sisterhood. The best guidelines I could give you is that the Sisters are insanely strict and will punish it's members quite harshly for very small infractions. However, the punishment will most likely match the crime. What did the PC do to deserve punishment anyway? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175429-sororitas-discipline/#findComment-2074254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripath Posted August 9, 2009 Author Share Posted August 9, 2009 When do sister not punish themselves. When they have different ideas about how to do something then a superior from a different order? I guess I should rephrase my question to just how much authority superiors have over people not in their organization. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175429-sororitas-discipline/#findComment-2074793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chengar Qordath Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 When do sister not punish themselves. When they have different ideas about how to do something then a superior from a different order? I guess I should rephrase my question to just how much authority superiors have over people not in their organization. As I recall, Superiors from different Orders are generally accorded respect equal to their rank by normal Sisters. Presumably a Superior from different order would be obeyed so long as her orders don't conflict with those from the Battlesisters's own Order. For the rest of the topic, as others have said the Sororitas probably have a mix of religious and (for Battlesisters) military discipline options. I expect being assigned extra hours of prayer/penance or recieving unpleasant duties would be common punishments for minor infractions, though I expect most Battlesister punishments would usually shy away from things that could damage a sister's combat-capability (half-starved or severely flagellated Battlesisters can't fight at a moment's notice). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175429-sororitas-discipline/#findComment-2074852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
- 7eAL - Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Also according to Dark heresy, the new Sister Obstructa? replaces what the Repentia used to be, IE warriors on self imposed exiles and quests for redemption. Remember, that becoming a repentia now is essentially a death sentence. It would not be imposed for some trivial infraction. More likely it would be imposed for something like: cowardice in the face of the enemy, desertion of one post, or gross negligence. Anyway that's my take. Meaning that Sisters Obstructa take a voluntary self-punishment, whereas Sisters Repentia are determined and enforced by Sororitas court-martial? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175429-sororitas-discipline/#findComment-2074946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaronDG Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 No spanking jokes? I'm impressed! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175429-sororitas-discipline/#findComment-2075408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripath Posted August 10, 2009 Author Share Posted August 10, 2009 No spanking jokes? I'm impressed! You need to read the Berserk Manga there is a female character that has a fetish for burning heretics at the stake. Not joking. Plus if they were to derive pleasure from such punishments that would make them more prone to slaenesh coruption. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175429-sororitas-discipline/#findComment-2075718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzerkopf Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Also according to Dark heresy, the new Sister Obstructa? replaces what the Repentia used to be, IE warriors on self imposed exiles and quests for redemption. Remember, that becoming a repentia now is essentially a death sentence. It would not be imposed for some trivial infraction. More likely it would be imposed for something like: cowardice in the face of the enemy, desertion of one post, or gross negligence. Anyway that's my take. Meaning that Sisters Obstructa take a voluntary self-punishment, whereas Sisters Repentia are determined and enforced by Sororitas court-martial? Sisters Oblatias' penances are self-imposed, kind of like a suicidal and homicidal spiritual journey. Repentia can be both forced into that unit or enter voluntarily. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175429-sororitas-discipline/#findComment-2076107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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