A Question

[alfred_the_great]

Afternoon,

 

first up an introduction - I started playing Rogue Trader, including the deodorant land speeder thing-y, and then moved onto harlequins (they looked pretty!). After the 2nd ed came out I moved to SW, an interest that continues today. Unfortunately, beer and girls tempted me away from the Fang, although I have maintained a modicum of interest. I don't have any figures, nor do I intend to, but enjoy writing fluff and fan-fic, and may put some up here if I actually ever get round to finishing it!

 

Anyway, to the point:

 

Is there any reason why the Iron Priests can't produce a Pred with twin-linked assault cannons instead of an auto-cannon or las-cannon? I appreciate that this is much like a Baal, but I can't square how the LR Crusader and Pred Annihilator can be produced without Mars' permission or STC construct but no other Techmarine in 999 chapters can work out how to stick 2 assault cannons in the same turret?!

 

The only reason I could really think of was to give the BA something unique for their army list, that's cool and I appreciate what GW have done, but I think that one of my IP may be 'innovative' and come up with a new design.

 

[As I don't play with an army, this is not an attempt to get a Baal 'in the back door' - it's solely for a story that's turning over in my head....]

[warboy]

considering space wolves were the inventors of the twin lascannon variant of the predator, i'd say it's not totally unfeasible that they'd make other variants. i'm not entirely sure if it was even an iron priest that was responsible for this innovation, if i recall correctly it was a group of long fangs. i could be wrong and i'm sure someone will correct me if this is the case. but yeah, if any chapter was gonna verge on heresy by dabbling in SCIENCE! to make bigger, better machines with which to destroy the enemies of the imperium, you can count on the space wolves. not that we're a particularly techy chapter, but a precedent has been set, and fluffwise i see no reason why not.

 

edit: oh, by the way, i've heard a rumour that there will be a Land Raider variant unique to the space wolves in the upcoming codex that has assault cannons. where they are mounted i'm not entirely sure, whether it be pintle mounted, twin linked, or "Hurricane" configuration (which would be.... AWESOME??)

[muzzyman1981]

Well the main reason would be that outside pickup games where your opponent agrees, there are no point costs for a Assault Cannon Predator.

 

Remember Mars too wants to keep it's status as those in charge of any tech, if it comes out that anyone who has the skills can just go around tinkering with vehicles or any sort of technology then Mars loses it's status and power.

[lunchb0x]

Iron Priests are supposed to be the best of the best when it comes to turning a wrench.

[Grey Mage]

They could do it... buy why would they do it?

 

We already use most our assault cannons in our TDA squads! And the rest have gotten attached to things like landraiders.... so the predator got lascannons instead.

 

I think its for the best.

[MaveriK]

our Iron Priest had the custom work done already along with several others, they did up all the chants and prayers, signed all forms and paper work. And has been sent to mars many decades ago... unfortunately the man who approves these works goes by the name of Gav Thorpe... no relation to the actual man, maybe a possible descendant :)

[Lord Rao]

Not an actual answer to your story-driven question, but we don't need a Baal pred (and, if you think about it, neither do the BA, but that's another story). We have (had?) the LR Exterminator, and the recent C:SM has the Razorback with TLAC. Together wit the Wolf Guard termies that's all the AC death we'll ever need.

 

Still, if you need a bunch of Iron Priests to fix up a Pred with TLACs for your story, I don't see why they couldn't, technically speaking - it shouldn't be too different from the Lascannon pred they figured out years ago. If they have a horde of Orks/Bugs/wha-evva running towards them and they need a tank that takes care of business, I don't see why the Wolves couldn't have an A-team style 28th minute construction scene where a handful of IPs fix up a vehicle that does them proud.

 

Dakka.

 

 

LR

[Quillen]

As to why. GW is not cutting edge and it takes them 5 years to get a new codex out for SpaceWolves, let alone make the codex balanced(which they do not do because of sales).

 

As to fluff, go for it.

 

In our bigger Appoc games I have several titan scale things my wolves have fought over to capture and reclaimed. I have it painted in their style with their markings (even Pack Markings for the pack that captured it). So I see no reason why you could not make a story about a Bhaal Preditor they recovered from some battle field and restored. It would be a cool modeling job as well. A Bhall with the red wearing thin, and the BA markings painted over and GH markings on it with fur and wolf tails on it.

 

P.S.- The points for an Assault cannon pred is in the Blood angels PDF file. So the points are in the game. Both Army Lists are marines with a bent toward melee, so the points would be balanced for us to use. In a tourny you would not be able to. In most friendly games no one would care.

 

As to a Preditor- It's a light Battle Tank. Think of it as a Jackson/Achilles in WWII. It's fast has a good weapon, but lacks in Armor. So the Las Cannon version would be a Tank Hunter in the truest sence, while the Auto Cannon would be a troop killer. I think the Assault Cannon version would soon replace the Auto cannon version, becaus the Auto cannon is not a really well thought out weapon to begin with. Str 7? 2 shots? too weak for tank killing and too few shots for horde slaying.

[alfred_the_great]

Cheers y'all. Much appreciated. Now just got to write the damn thing.....