Ozybonza Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 So SoV3 has just been released, and it says there it's lots of art of GK etc.... but are there any GK rules, besides Hector Rex? I am specifically looking for something on the GK Redeemer.... I want one, but don't want to use it unless it's got some at least semi-official rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175578-siege-of-vracks-3-question/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinoDoc Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 It hasn't been released yet. It's on preorder. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175578-siege-of-vracks-3-question/#findComment-2074848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boreas Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 I've noticed that the PAGk and TGK have entries in the book. I hope beyond all hope that those would be "updated" entries. Extraordinarely low possibility, but one can dream! Phil Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175578-siege-of-vracks-3-question/#findComment-2074862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozybonza Posted August 10, 2009 Author Share Posted August 10, 2009 I've noticed that the PAGk and TGK have entries in the book. I hope beyond all hope that those would be "updated" entries. Extraordinarely low possibility, but one can dream! Phil Really? Could be good..... An upcoming tourney I'm planning on entering allows FW items, so heres hoping we get something good :D I'm so sick of having to take 3 Land Raiders just so I'm not garunteed to lose. Anyone know the release date? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175578-siege-of-vracks-3-question/#findComment-2074894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 According to people who've seen the book already, no one remembers rules for Grey Knights. No changes to how our special ruls work versus Daemons for example. There are rules for Hector Rex (but no one could remember his special rules...), the Psycannon Razorback, and the GK Redeemer. That's possibly all we're going to get. Not sure I want to fork out £45 just for that.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175578-siege-of-vracks-3-question/#findComment-2075091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinoDoc Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 You were never gonna get changes to Grey Knight rules from Forgeworld, GL. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175578-siege-of-vracks-3-question/#findComment-2075176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justicar Valius Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Well we get Hector Rex who will be ultra killy and probably have most of our psychic powers i would guess... There are PAGK and GKT's entries if you look on "What's in this book" where it shows you all the stuff. And perhaps most exciting of all, there is an entry for a grey knight redeemer. Whether any of these actually conatin any rules at all is a mystery but there is a page for them! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175578-siege-of-vracks-3-question/#findComment-2075203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 You were never gonna get changes to Grey Knight rules from Forgeworld, GL. It was a slim ray of hope that FW were going to pick up the GK baton (with possible resin GKT, maybe even TH/SS varients), and they SoV3 would be an ideal place to update how our Dameon Powers should actually work versus the Dameons assaulting Vraks. Plus Hector Rex is gonna be a wimp with his 4+ SS that only works versus one target in CC.... But it seems we're back to waiting another 5 years for maybe our individualt codex, maybe a cominded one, maybe nothing, to look forward too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175578-siege-of-vracks-3-question/#findComment-2075223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Zyplon Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Quick add-in from the Daemonhunters page of Forge World: A Grey Knights Land Raider armed with twin linked Psycannons and two Flamestorm Incinerators. Complete resin and plastic kit... Emphasis is mine. Considering that there's an entry in SoV:III, it's looking good for Grey Knights! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175578-siege-of-vracks-3-question/#findComment-2075262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baragash Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 I didn't see any new GK rules, although there is a datasheet for a LR based strikeforce of GKTs + Inq Lord. Full list of what I spotted here (GK players prepare to be disappointed I'm afraid): http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...p;#entry2085943 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175578-siege-of-vracks-3-question/#findComment-2085944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Rex has 2+/3+, +1S, an Anointed Force Weapon, and a boatload of anti-daemon equipment - 285 points and can take 0-9 Henchmem So he at least gets the new 3++ Storm Shields... /sigh So he's S4/T3? And he wounds Daemons with his Killing outright Force Weapon on a 4+. I was hoping for some more sweeping generic rules, and 285 points seems super expensive... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175578-siege-of-vracks-3-question/#findComment-2086009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmsniper Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 You really think Rex is only T3. I mean he is practically in TDA. I saw the +1S so I got real excited for a second thinking S5 base stat, but then I thought what is the reasoning for this when he has a S6 force weapon.......I guess T3 it is......sigh edited for spelling Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175578-siege-of-vracks-3-question/#findComment-2086014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmsniper Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 You really think Rex is only T3. I mean he is practically in TDA. I saw the +1S so I got real excited for a second thinking S5 base stat, but then I thought what is the reasoning for this when he has a S6 force weapon.......I guess T3 it is......sigh edited for spelling I should read better next time. It says just annoited force weapon, probably not a nemisis.....making S5 T4 much more likely...I have hope again. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175578-siege-of-vracks-3-question/#findComment-2086026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 He is in TDA. That's why he's got a 2+ save. ;) Edit: Normal S3/T3 Inquisitors can purchase TDA (who needs a Black Carapace!!), I took the +1S to represnt the "Giant of a man" Hector is supposed to be. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175578-siege-of-vracks-3-question/#findComment-2086039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boreas Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 285!? They've got to be kidding... An =I= lord with Blessed Weapon, Force Weapon, Plasma Pistol, Storm Shield, Termi armor, Psychic Hood, Grimoire of True Names, Unguents of Warding, Sacred Incense, Holy Relic and Holocaust (assuming he could take all that), would still leave you roughly enough points to take 3 plasgun-toting warrior henchmen... Hummmmm...... Phil Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175578-siege-of-vracks-3-question/#findComment-2086057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmsniper Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 He is in TDA. That's why he's got a 2+ save. ;) Edit: Normal S3/T3 Inquisitors can purchase TDA (who needs a Black Carapace!!), I took the +1S to represnt the "Giant of a man" Hector is supposed to be. It would just seem underpowered if he only had a S4 force weapon. Unless the annoited part does something, guess I will just have to wait about 3 weeks until my book comes, Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175578-siege-of-vracks-3-question/#findComment-2086059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boreas Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Well, I assumed it wounds daemons on a 4+ and gives S+2d6 against possessed vehicles... Not bad when combined with a force weapon. Still, 285 pts!? Isn't that more expensive than Marneus Calgar? Phil Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175578-siege-of-vracks-3-question/#findComment-2086081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Yup. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175578-siege-of-vracks-3-question/#findComment-2086083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarn Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 Rex is the single best model in the game for taking out the FW greater daemons though... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175578-siege-of-vracks-3-question/#findComment-2086756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 If with his T3 and no EW (and I'm assuiming I4...) He's not one shot by them first.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175578-siege-of-vracks-3-question/#findComment-2086965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boreas Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 Well, with the retinue and his 3++ save, he has a fair chance of hitting back even against Angrath... And then, with with our funky Force Weapons (I'm still uncomfortable with this) remove the 888pts model about 22% of the time (assuming he has 3 attacks). But then, the Chaos player will never let Rex near his major daemons. Phil Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175578-siege-of-vracks-3-question/#findComment-2086987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarn Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 Well, with the retinue and his 3++ save, he has a fair chance of hitting back even against Angrath... And then, with with our funky Force Weapons (I'm still uncomfortable with this) remove the 888pts model about 22% of the time (assuming he has 3 attacks). But then, the Chaos player will never let Rex near his major daemons. Phil I guess we'll have a better idea once we know his stats and what anti daemon equipment he has. At that price though, surely he'd have 4 attacks?!? Even so, he's obviously going to be delivered via LR. :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175578-siege-of-vracks-3-question/#findComment-2087000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boreas Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 Now, let's do it in style; he should be delivered via Thunderhawk! Ahhh... wish I had one.... Phil Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175578-siege-of-vracks-3-question/#findComment-2087032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 As an IC he'd have to be in B2B for his attacks to land. So the Daemon will go first, and (at least) split his attacks to land some on Rex. We'll have to hope he makes all his 3++ SS saves (Grrrr..... Why does he get to have a nice new SS, and our GK can't. It's this idiocy I can't understand...), in order to get the chance to return. And hope none of the Khorne stuff has the "Make Force Weapons act like Power Weapons" that's still around. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175578-siege-of-vracks-3-question/#findComment-2087067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boreas Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 Well, AFAIK, he benefits from the old retinue rules, so the Daemon attacks the unit as a whole and I get to put the wounds, no? Phil Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175578-siege-of-vracks-3-question/#findComment-2087200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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