Brother Subtle Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 does an omnibus put you off collecting? ie. would you buy each book individually or just wait for the omnibus? for example, i have all 6 Ragnar Blackmane books, but now i think i want the SW omnibus', which makes me think why did i even bother bying all the 6 books seperatly? or do you think that omnibus' make the single titiles more 'rare' and collectable? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175673-do-omnibus-put-you-off-collecting/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 i normally dont care as i lack the patience to wait for the omnibus...but what really pisses me off is when GW authors slip a short story or something extra into the omnibus that cant be found elsewhere. what this says to me is that they appreciate the people who made the books popular enough to continue into a omnibus, but we're going to give the new readers a little something extra. if you want it you got to buy a omnibus that you dont need in the slightest! WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175673-do-omnibus-put-you-off-collecting/#findComment-2075897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee265 Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 they can stop me from wanting to read a series that i was reading before they were around as there can be new material which i find upsetting, however, it is a great way to break into an old series if I haven't read it before so I have mixed feelings but understand the frustration with having to drop the mon ey for a 5 page short story. just me 2 cents. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175673-do-omnibus-put-you-off-collecting/#findComment-2076105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike the Zealous Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 Not in the slightest. I like collecting all of the books for series, cuz it means i can either lend out a particular book or just trash the Omnibus to destruction :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175673-do-omnibus-put-you-off-collecting/#findComment-2077217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messanger of Death Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 I've only started to get into reading Black Library novels and the Omnibus books make it alot easier for me to get an entire series. It does create the feeling that the book is one long story with many mini plots and that in a way probably creates a different feel than having several smaller books with their own individual plots that build into a macro-plot. But I am glad Black Library has gone ahead with the Omnibus collections. Messanger Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175673-do-omnibus-put-you-off-collecting/#findComment-2077297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 I like the Omnibus sets... and as I rarely have the money to buy a full price book Im much more likely to buy 3 books for 12-15 dollars than three for 8 a peice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175673-do-omnibus-put-you-off-collecting/#findComment-2087580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Engel Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 More books look more impressive on my bookshelf. If Black Library released the HH novels in hardback, I would buy them all again, in a heartbeat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175673-do-omnibus-put-you-off-collecting/#findComment-2087614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
weasleybob Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 I prefer the omnibuses as they save me money ;0. I'm annoyed right now though, how long will i have to wait before the next G&F omnibus comes out! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175673-do-omnibus-put-you-off-collecting/#findComment-2088256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 I love and loath the omnibus.. I have the G&T 1st and 2nd. The Soul Drinkers. The Blood Ravens/Dawn of War. The Von Carstein Trilogy. Ultramarines. Space Wolves. Genieveve Trilogy. Eisenhorn. And others... Kind of forgotten my point here... Erm... Yes! I love them because they collect series together and save money, but i loath them because they can be both large and also its irritating buying one book, then finding I can get both the second a third in an omnibus for the price of one book. I think that all makes sense... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175673-do-omnibus-put-you-off-collecting/#findComment-2088322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galadren Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 I love omnibuses because I got to read alot of stuff for cheap and catch up to where things are now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175673-do-omnibus-put-you-off-collecting/#findComment-2088344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whylie Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 I like omnibus's because they last a good while (Ciaphas Cain has lasted only 10 days) and are cheaper than the three seperate books, plus you often get bonus stories thrown in to. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175673-do-omnibus-put-you-off-collecting/#findComment-2133781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midgard Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 I have fairly little time as it is, and omnibus editions simply make more sense for me - I can have several novels with me on the go, and read when I have time to do so, going from one novel to the next, instead of having to have several books with me, taking up more space, and generally giving me more things to keep track of. Besides, I am all about the content, and am not much of a collector. Any extra material (short stories, etc) is great, but I am in it mainly for the novels themselves. If I followed the series from getting the first book in them as a stand-alone, and happen to collect most of the series on their own (i.e. the Word Bearers series, of which I am waiting for the conclusion of the trilogy), I will simply buy the remaining book rather than get the omnibus. If I have maybe one book in the series and two or more novels remaining that are available in the omnibus (i.e. the second Space Wolves omnibus - I only have "Wolfblade" as a standalone), I will probably get the omnibus without thinking twice rather than hunt down individual novels. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175673-do-omnibus-put-you-off-collecting/#findComment-2134311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
randian Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 I'm not buying any of the next 3 Soul Drinkers books because I assume they'll be part of an omnibus just like the first 3 were. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175673-do-omnibus-put-you-off-collecting/#findComment-2137397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeGuy Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 This thread made me order The Ultramrines, 1st Space Wolves, Blood Angels and Soul Drinkers omnibuses (Omnibi?). I did it simply because the stores around here don't stock all the Marine books I want to read. Heck, the newest HH book available at the local GW is Fulgrim. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175673-do-omnibus-put-you-off-collecting/#findComment-2139012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notasquick Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 does an omnibus put you off collecting? The simple answer is yes. The only thing going for individual novels are: - the (potentially differing) cover art; - instant gratification in the acquisition of new work; I think the Omnibus format does have a lot going for it: - several novels in one book; - connecting short stories; - cheaper to purchase; - easier to maintain in the catalogue; - delayed gratification in the complete storyline; As a collector, the problem for me is that the price is getting to a ridiculous point for single Black Library novels. Even I have taken to getting the individual novels from the Public Library to read for free before obtaining the Omnibus from discounters. Errors like these are not an indicator of a premium priced product: - In the Sabbat Worlds Crusade (page 5), there is a map of Segmentum Pacificus which is blatantly a lift of Segmentum Tempestus and Ultima Segmentum from the 4th edition rulebook. - In the Horus Heresy art books (Volume IV: page 82-83), the card descriptions are in German and then were carried over into Collected Visions. - In the Horus Heresy art books, not providing all the primarch art in large formats, no loyalist spaceships, missing the opportunity to focus on the legions involved in each part of the storyline whilst inexplicably providing artwork that had no relevance. - In the Liber Chaotica books, skimping on not on only the legibility of the print but also it's size and colour. - Confusing the attributes and workings of vehicles, spaceships, and equipment; - Inconsistent numbers (dates and statistics); - Fundamental background errors; - Generally sloppy editing; What should also be happening in the Omnibus editions and reprints is good editing. This editing should be consistent across all products and authors regardless of status. It should be maintaining the quality of the product and the consistency of the background. They should be issuing all authors with background guides and requiring them to comply, so as to lessen the size of any editing task at source. In addition, harness the fanbase and give them the ability to report errors and inconsistencies online for some small reward (Skulz promotion). The value of the omnibus should not be comprised, as it was when only providing two novels in the Blood Angels Omnibus. There should be some compelling reason though to acquire single novels as well as the omnibus. I would suggest they do the following for individual novels: - individual novel cover art inside the book on double colour pages; - collectable cards (provided in the same way as in the Steve Cole children books); - voucher system (lessening the price of other GW purchases maybe with a Skulz type promotion); - (possibly) timely and relevant adverts (link novel purchase to specific character model purchases); - author profile; - larger print size; - better quality page binding and spine; - plastic slip cover (as was supplied with The Sabbat Worlds Crusade book); I would suggest they do the following in any Omnibus: - three novels; - four connecting short stories; - consolidated list of characters (Heroes and Villians); - consolidated list of places (Geography); - supporting maps (Cartography); - individual novel cover art inside the book on single colour pages; - better page bindings; - remove author profiles; - remove adverts; Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175673-do-omnibus-put-you-off-collecting/#findComment-2211753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian MacKay Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 I like the omnibus idea since it does cut the cost of books and makes it easy to find a complete series like Eisenhorn or Ravenor. When I've bought the GK novels and now there is an omni, I'm a little sad, but hey, I got to read them as they came out. If the copies get too messed up, then I'll replace them with omnis. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175673-do-omnibus-put-you-off-collecting/#findComment-2213804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperion Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 I loathe the omnibuses for one simple reason: the additional short stories. As someone who buys all of the 40k and HH books plus a lot of the WH books it makes me really angry that I am given the choice of either: 1. Doing without the extra stories, when I am a story fan; or 2. Having to wait years for the omnibus; or 3. Having to pay the full price of a book for a short story, which is the size of a large book and contains 90% stuff I already own. A brilliant example of how to draw in new customers ...by kicking your existing ones in the nads! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175673-do-omnibus-put-you-off-collecting/#findComment-2213839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innus Bade 9 Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 I love the omnibus with for the price. They tend to be too big though. Totally agree with the fact that those who read the stories early on are short changed with the additional material placed in the omnibus though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175673-do-omnibus-put-you-off-collecting/#findComment-2213860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific81 Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 If it hadn't been for the Omnibus (specifically the Inquisition Wars), we would never have known what happened to the Squats! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175673-do-omnibus-put-you-off-collecting/#findComment-2213906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofwaranddeath Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 I buy as many 40k books as I can get my paws on :lol: simple as that. I probably will eventually end up getting single books that go to an omnibus I already have just for ease of loaning out, and to make my book shelf bigger! Hardbacks are awesome though, and I definately grab those as soon as possible! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175673-do-omnibus-put-you-off-collecting/#findComment-2213933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karrious Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 [quobooks look more impressive on my bookshelf. te name=Inquisitor Engel' date='Aug 23 2009, 04:34 AM' post='2087614] More If Black Library released the HH novels in hardback, I would buy them all again, in a heartbeat. Yep id have to agree. i look all over for out of print books so i dont have to get the omnibus. Looks so much better.Only thing is i miss out on the short stories :wallbash: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175673-do-omnibus-put-you-off-collecting/#findComment-2221449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 No, not really. I don't get the chance to buy 40k books often, so when I do get a chance, there is often a slightly older series that are in an omnibus that I don't want to have to buy all the seperate little bits for. And what is this nonsense about short stories? I have a couple omnibi* and they don't have any short stories in them. Even if they did, why would it make just so upset that you absolutely cannot stand omnibi? * Omnibi is right by the way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175673-do-omnibus-put-you-off-collecting/#findComment-2223468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karrious Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Ravenor omni 2 short stories, Blood Angels omni 1 short story, Gaunts ghosts the founding 1 short story, Ultramarines 1 short story, Eisenhorn 2 short stories. These are just a few of course. They dont all have them but many do. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175673-do-omnibus-put-you-off-collecting/#findComment-2223499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retributis Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Funny how most of those are from Mr Abnett... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175673-do-omnibus-put-you-off-collecting/#findComment-2223541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkio Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 i read the grey knights omnibus in 3 days. great read. i have the first three ragnar books but hopfully have the second omni under the tree. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175673-do-omnibus-put-you-off-collecting/#findComment-2223575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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