Rathnard Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 If you were to do a decent CSM army without Tanks (other than dreadnoughts), what would you take? I ask because I'm considering whether to convert my now defunct 13th company to a chaos army. I liked the whole "no-vehicles" theme they had going, so while I'm up for making new models/converting existing ones, I'm also aiming to keep them on foot. For those who are interested, my 13th company army consisted of; Wolf Lord Wolf Priest Rune Priest in terminator armour 3x10 Grey Slayers 15 Wulfen 5 Bikes 25-odd Wolves (although they've now been split between my goblins and vampire counts) Pics are here; http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/Dranthar/P1010082.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/Dranthar/P1010078.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/Dranthar/P1010076.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175693-vehicle-less-chaos-marines/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corpse. Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Loyalists pull this off a bit better then we do when using things like attack bikes, scores of cheaper jumping marines and cheaper bikes (that can even be troop choices). For chaos its either go numerous, go fast, go shooty or dont go at all when not involving core vehicles like rhinos. Honestly, a rhino is just 2 marines worth and in chaos where most of the marine types taking 2 marines cost more then a single rhino is not a big deal. To be perfectly honest, using Space Wolf rules or using berzerker rules and basic marines+Icon of khorne rules would fit your army best. The wolves are a little cheap per model to count them as bikes and as lesser daemons their bases can be argued with (though still legal as no "lesser daemon box set" is for sale to set the base size for our lesser daemon entry). Sorry I cant help more. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175693-vehicle-less-chaos-marines/#findComment-2076089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 If you were to do a decent CSM army without Tanks (other than dreadnoughts), what would you take? something like that does not exist. closest thing you could do it a NM water warrior , but even there you play with 2 rhinos for LoS/charge blocking. as the units go. csm bikes are not worth the points and LSD are not needed in non zylla builds. wingless HQs[only thing in 5th that has to actually be modeled and cant be count as'ed] are a big no too. from the looks of your list it looks like 2 or 3 csm units with 2 specials 2 units of zerkers and then you need 4 rhinos and 4/6 oblits. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175693-vehicle-less-chaos-marines/#findComment-2076136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillin Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Putting yourself at a huge disadvantage trying to use chaos w/ out rino's. SW's are getting new dex this winter, just wait for that, might even have 13th Co. rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175693-vehicle-less-chaos-marines/#findComment-2076336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 it doesnt , but its possible to make a biker build with them. But am not going to rant about SW dex again :P . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175693-vehicle-less-chaos-marines/#findComment-2076470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 I use my Death Guard as a footslogging army most times, mainly because I've had my Rhinos blown to pieces so many times I've stopped using them. I'd rather slog up through cover of terrain, most times it makes me a hard target for my opponent as well. But my World Eaters do use Rhinos, mainly because I really have no choice with them. It's get into combat quick, or get picked off from afar. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175693-vehicle-less-chaos-marines/#findComment-2077663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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