Panzerkopf Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 Here's my concept: Inquisitorial Stormtroopers, being the Holy Ordos' hand-picked, private army, should be infinitely more badass than they actually are. They should be kicking down doors, tossing in flash-bangs, and dragging the traitorous and unclean out of their little hidey-holes by their dandruffy, unwashed hair. Instead, they just stand around and get their butts handed to them by everything else in the game. I realized early on that ISTs are pretty crappy and have been a loyal Sororitas player for years. However, the image of armor and gas mask-clad special forces conjured up by Half Life 2 and Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade simply made too big a mark on me in my youth and I want a viable army of Stormtroopers really badly. So something clicked in my head the other week. I can take Space Marine Scouts as allies, and Scouts are comparable to ISTs while being infinitely better at the same time. They have a higher strength, toughness, and initiative; a wider range of equipment options, and a bunch of really great special rules to boot. Not to mention their special character. Their only downside is their lower BS but so what? In conclusion, a Witch Hunter army with allied Space Marine Scouts would make for a fun, strong, and flexible army while still being fluffy (with some good head-swaps of course). Can anyone give me advice on the best way to build this? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175775-are-wh-with-allied-sm-scouts-a-viable-army/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffersonian000 Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 You can take SM Scouts as inducted troops in a WH army; however, you must take at least 2 WH IST squads in order to be able to take SM Scouts, as you must take your 2 required Troop selections from the parent list (WH) and you may not take Sisters of battle in the same army as Allied Space Marines (inducted SM Scouts). So yes, you can; but to what effect? SJ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175775-are-wh-with-allied-sm-scouts-a-viable-army/#findComment-2077103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinoDoc Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 So yes, you can; but to what effect?Adeptus Arbites counts as army? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175775-are-wh-with-allied-sm-scouts-a-viable-army/#findComment-2077110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzerkopf Posted August 12, 2009 Author Share Posted August 12, 2009 So yes, you can; but to what effect?Adeptus Arbites counts as army? Negative on both counts. I imagine ISTs as the Inquisition's own covert operations force that the Inquisitors themselves call in when the investigation has been wrapped up and it's time to destroy the enemy. Granted, all of the Ordos have their own Chambers Militant; but when the Sisters or the Grey Knights aren't available and the mission is too sensitive to use the Guard, the Inquisition has to use it's own people. In other words, the Scouts will count-as Stormtroopers, except they won't suck. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175775-are-wh-with-allied-sm-scouts-a-viable-army/#findComment-2077128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eltnot Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 Might be easiest to use a SM parent list and just ally in the inquisitor and a couple of goodies? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175775-are-wh-with-allied-sm-scouts-a-viable-army/#findComment-2077129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gil galed Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 Might be easiest to use a SM parent list and just ally in the inquisitor and a couple of goodies? I'd say this is probably a better idea, means you can effectively run a scout army but as a "counts as" IST army, could even have an SM chapter master who counts as an inq. lord Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175775-are-wh-with-allied-sm-scouts-a-viable-army/#findComment-2077456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzerkopf Posted August 12, 2009 Author Share Posted August 12, 2009 That could work, and the Chapter Master "Inquisitor" would be infinitely more badass than a real one. However, since I would only be allowed one WH Elites slot, that would prevent me from using all of my Inquisitor Retinues ( I have roughly three or four) and the WH freakshow units. Then again, I would be able to take Landspeeder Storms to add to the Covert Ops feel (anyone remember the Little Bird helicopters from Black Hawk Down?) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175775-are-wh-with-allied-sm-scouts-a-viable-army/#findComment-2077847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
River Black Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Wow I was going to do the exact same thing (Scouts with shotguns and melta bombs) in my WH army. I am going to use WH as the parent list because i would also like to run 3 Penitent Engines, Acro-Flagellants, Zealots, and a Callidus Assassin. I know its not that effective for an army but the Scouts (played as arbites) would add a little more muscle to the list. Winning isnt that critical. I just want the crazy list with all of these crazy rules. if you made me a list send it my way and we can compare. I would love to see what you come up with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175775-are-wh-with-allied-sm-scouts-a-viable-army/#findComment-2083382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzerkopf Posted August 23, 2009 Author Share Posted August 23, 2009 I haven't made any lists yet, but I plan to run as many Scout squads as I can. Some of them will have sniper rifles and heavy weapons to act as a support group while the rest will infiltrate/ outflank/etc. as an assault group. I'm not sure whether to give them shotguns or bolt pistol and CCW though. Although they will have an anti-tank capability. I like the idea of this list but the cost in money would be prohibitive. $20 for five scouts in a box times two for a full squad of ten times four for the number of full squads I want equals a lot of freakin' money! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175775-are-wh-with-allied-sm-scouts-a-viable-army/#findComment-2088279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCarter Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 I just fielded a DH army with 3 x IST, 1 x SM scouts (5), 1 x SM tac sqd (5), 1 x SM assault sqd (5), an Inq Lord with a retinue of sages and warriors (HB, HB, PC) with chimaera, and two Dreads (TLLC and ML) for heavy support and waxed a 1500-pt ork army. I would think that a WH army could be drawn up along the same lines and hold its own on the tabletop. Of course, it's always going to depend on the situation, the terrain and the type of opponent army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175775-are-wh-with-allied-sm-scouts-a-viable-army/#findComment-2088432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffersonian000 Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 That waxed an Ork army? Dude, I'd love to read that battle report! SJ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175775-are-wh-with-allied-sm-scouts-a-viable-army/#findComment-2088693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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