slmellon Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 I made a search of "wulfen dread" on this site and found nothing, at least within the first 50 or so threads...got impatient... Can the brother wolf inside a dread, seeing as he would still mentally be "alive" succumb to the curse of the wulfen? Lets say while in stasis, something happens in his dream state where over a thousand years with no one but the wolf he turns, and when "awoken" becomes a beast, needing to be chained and such, like they do with kaos dreds. After reading the Space Wolf Series and how Ragnar is always mentally fighting the beast, i figured the fight starts and ends in the head, and where the head goes... Could, in theory, it happen? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175848-wulfen-dreadought/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
wookie2533 Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 that sounds quite possible and if you wanted rules for it maybe use the chaos dreadnought crazed table or slightly modify it to make it fit the wulfen style you could also make a wulfen dread which would maybe be always crazed and have fleet but you role to see weather it moves towards enemy or foe and maybe one where it stays still for the turn cause it is battling the beast within? also maybe give it two dread claws? could be a pretty cool conversion :jaw: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175848-wulfen-dreadought/#findComment-2078108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schertenleib Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Sounds cool to me. I might have to steal that idea. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175848-wulfen-dreadought/#findComment-2078117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slmellon Posted August 13, 2009 Author Share Posted August 13, 2009 that sounds quite possible and if you wanted rules for it maybe use the chaos dreadnought crazed table or slightly modify it to make it fit the wulfen style you could also make a wulfen dread which would maybe be always crazed and have fleet but you role to see weather it moves towards enemy or foe and maybe one where it stays still for the turn cause it is battling the beast within? also maybe give it two dread claws? could be a pretty cool conversion :D That was part of my thinking...what rules could it use, could it have two DCCWs, seeing as a beast wouldnt need to fire a weapon and would just be a Close Combat Monster. Steal it by all means...I never understood why Wolves never had a Furioso style Dred or VenDred in the first place. With or without the WULFEN inside Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175848-wulfen-dreadought/#findComment-2078130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growler67 Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Ummm, have always had the VenDred. A Furioso with double claws mit flamers would fit easily in this "Wulfen" Dred motif. Perhaps once an exceptional Blood Claw that saved the life of his Wolf Lord but badly wounded in said actions. Was rewarded for his bravery by order of the Wolf Lord to be placed within the sarophogus to once again serve the Chapter with the honor already exhibited. Then while in stasis, the battle within overcame the once courageous Blood Claw and already being honored by becoming a Dreadnaught, became the exception once again. I would consider having a look at the Chaos Crazed Table and figuring out a modified version of it to apply appropriately. Perhaps a stationary result and a labored movement result incorporated to be degrees of wrestling with the beast within hindering it's normal "fleet" movement. Perhaps an option for using all weapons on a single model to reflect a focused rage against the enemy or a an exceptional "rending" attack (multi strikes with CCW) when outnumbered by a specific ratio reflecting a variation of the core counter-attacking nature of the Blood Claws (as it once was). I would try to model it with something more svelt than the tree trunk/canister styled OEM dred legs to better reflect the "fleet"-ness. A double version of the claw pictured here: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v457/tyggrr65/Models/Chaos/DSC01731.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v457/tyggrr65/Models/Chaos/DSC01730.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v457/tyggrr65/Models/Chaos/DSC01732.jpg would be the route I would choose. I de-clawed a Chaos Rending Claw for it's "fingers" and drilled holes in a stock SW Dred Left arm to position them appropriately. The shortest one being positioned as the "thumb". Mounting a flamer or heavy flamer wouldn't be too difficult or just modifying a Furioso's arms with the "claws" would be simpler. Pelts and purity seals as applied by the Iron Priests to help the encased Warrior Brother with his struggle would be some of the fine touches to such a model, IMHO. Just sayin'. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175848-wulfen-dreadought/#findComment-2078139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slmellon Posted August 13, 2009 Author Share Posted August 13, 2009 I meant furioso style dread and furioso style vendred, ie 2 DCCWs, maybe you were just over thinking the response. And it wouldnt have to be a blood claw...Tell me, if Russ himself was encased in a metal box for millenia with no one to conversate with but his inner beast he could turn. Unlikely, but it could happen. Like Cabin Fever. Imagine the "Shining" ...Bashes through door..."Here's Wulfy" Eventually, they could all succumb its a constant struggle with the beast, blood claws are just the ones still learning how to come to terms with it. But they are all susceptible. Im just saying. I just wanted to know if it was a feasible idea or not. Why would i use my limited modelling skills (and limited budget for that matter) and build a model I cant use on the table. If became viable (2 DCCWs) i already have my vendred ready to pull off his firing arm for a second DCCW. I was in the process of building one when i checked the dex and realized we couldnt have 2. My Ven Dred http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3515/3775015919_ee459f93dc.jpg thats his concept sketch in the background, he still needs some GSing on the claws and banner and more pelty goodness Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175848-wulfen-dreadought/#findComment-2078176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slmellon Posted August 13, 2009 Author Share Posted August 13, 2009 i think i figured out how the turn comes...imagine your surprize when you wake up in a dreadnought!!think the beast wants to be cooped up in a box forever, me either, there you go. I bet the Iron Priests hate having to "Wake the Dread," especially for the first time. Maybe they have hypnotherapy pumping into the sarcophicus letting the marines know they have become dreads, i know id be POed if that happened to me. Maybe they are also fed daily, weekly, etc updates on the chapters deeds and such so that they can be repositories for chapter lore and knowledge. IE, feeding them battle reports so they can know how to deal with similar situations when the time arises. Just a thought. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175848-wulfen-dreadought/#findComment-2078209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 wow who drew the concept sketch?? its awsome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175848-wulfen-dreadought/#findComment-2078314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slmellon Posted August 13, 2009 Author Share Posted August 13, 2009 wow who drew the concept sketch?? its awsome. I did, thank you. In one of my rare drawing well moments, guess it turned out ok because its so rough. Thank you again. but im not normally that good Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175848-wulfen-dreadought/#findComment-2078385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdeptusDavidus Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Do you have more pics, and maybe some notes on that conversion? I've been (VERY slowly) working on a conversion of my AoBR dread to something similar. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175848-wulfen-dreadought/#findComment-2082558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hjamlar Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 In my companies fluff there is a Wulfen dread, but due to rather unusual origins - remnants of one of the former GC mixed with remnants of a 13th Co. pack, the story behind him is that he was a former Wolf Lord of the 13th Co. pack who was entombed only because of inquisitorial presence around - just to draw their attention of the 13th Co. by stating he was a member of the company. I was planning to base model either on once to come FW dread or a heavily converted mark IV one, but lack of funds never helps :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175848-wulfen-dreadought/#findComment-2083500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpsilver Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 The Wulfen Dread would definitely have to incorporate a load of scavanged bits from chaos forces. It would look great though. When I'm rich and famous I'll buy a forgeworld chaos dread and convert one up:) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175848-wulfen-dreadought/#findComment-2083544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schertenleib Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Just so I'm keeping all this straight.... Using a furioso dread or the choas crazed dread table would only be for friendly games and would have to be ok'ed by my opponet, right? Anything else and these are not considered legal choices... If I'm understanding. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175848-wulfen-dreadought/#findComment-2084191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamdelgray Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Why not make the Wulfen Dread the Ironclad? Two DCCW's there, and a Hvy Flamer. Seems it would look just as cool with pelts and skulls all over it as anything else. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175848-wulfen-dreadought/#findComment-2084260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growler67 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Just so I'm keeping all this straight.... Using a furioso dread or the choas crazed dread table would only be for friendly games and would have to be ok'ed by my opponet, right? Anything else and these are not considered legal choices... If I'm understanding. That is correct. Nothing official from GW has been released regarding a Wulfen Dread. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175848-wulfen-dreadought/#findComment-2084272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slmellon Posted August 22, 2009 Author Share Posted August 22, 2009 Do you have more pics, and maybe some notes on that conversion? I've been (VERY slowly) working on a conversion of my AoBR dread to something similar. I'll try to get some pics up later but the conversion was really easy. 1. Take AoBR Dread and cut legs off at the "hips" (the cylinders next at the top of the legs) leaving about 1mm of the cylinder shape. 2. Glue sentinel legs together and then glue them centered onto the 1mm left of the cylinder. 3. Position legs 4. Take the leg armor off old legs and glue on new legs, or use card or whatever. 5. thats it. easy, took about 10 minutes to do. My first conversion, and with buying the sentinel, there are all kinds of neat extras. Nice heavy flamer, and plenty of weapons. Plus if you are actually good at conversions, which im not there are some pieces that would make excellent extra armor and the like. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175848-wulfen-dreadought/#findComment-2086729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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