Custodian Athiair Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 i just want to know as i am unsure because it says Power Fists strike at I 1 but if you are in cover you strike at I 10 so anyone? thanks Athiair :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPetersson Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 That is incorrect. It is the assaulting unit that has it's Initiative lowered to 1, not the defending unit that is raised to 10. See page 36 of the BRB. So power fists go at the same time as the assaulting unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maligoare Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 You seem to be using the 4th edition rule set there (perhaps having got one of the old Battle for Macragge books?). In the current rules, it is as LPetersson has stated. For future reference, a powerfist's I1 almost always overrides any alteration of initiative values simply because of the way it is worded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custodian Athiair Posted August 17, 2009 Author Share Posted August 17, 2009 ok sorry my bad thanks at lot Athiair :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azulz Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 You seem to be using the 4th edition rule set there (perhaps having got one of the old Battle for Macragge books?). In the current rules, it is as LPetersson has stated. For future reference, a powerfist's I1 almost always overrides any alteration of initiative values simply because of the way it is worded. What about furios charge for I1 weapons? Does the I get raised to I2? Which weapons will this happen to and which ones will it not happen to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chengar Qordath Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 You seem to be using the 4th edition rule set there (perhaps having got one of the old Battle for Macragge books?). In the current rules, it is as LPetersson has stated. For future reference, a powerfist's I1 almost always overrides any alteration of initiative values simply because of the way it is worded. What about furios charge for I1 weapons? Does the I get raised to I2? Which weapons will this happen to and which ones will it not happen to? From Page 42 of the BRB (emphasis added): Attacks with a power fist are always delivered at Initiative 1 (Ignore Initiative bonuses from special rules, wargear, etc.) And from Page 36, if a unit is assaulting through cover (as before, emphasis added): All of its models have their Initiative value lowered to 1 when attacking, regardless of other Initiative modifiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekbadger Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 You seem to be using the 4th edition rule set there (perhaps having got one of the old Battle for Macragge books?). In the current rules, it is as LPetersson has stated. For future reference, a powerfist's I1 almost always overrides any alteration of initiative values simply because of the way it is worded. What about furios charge for I1 weapons? Does the I get raised to I2? Which weapons will this happen to and which ones will it not happen to? The powerfist still strikes at I1. Any weapon which strikes at the models initiative will get the bonus. Any weapon that strikes at a specific initiative value (power fists, thunder hammers, Tyranid bio-plasma attack as well i think?) will be unaltered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty the Pyro Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Bio plasma is defined as twice the models initive, and as furious charge does increase the models initive i think it would apply, but I dont think any nids have furious charge so its moot for now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Though if they did have FC wouldnt that be (Ix2)+(1)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty the Pyro Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Though if they did have FC wouldnt that be (Ix2)+(1)? yes, due to the multiple modifires rule (pg 7) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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