Grey Hunter Ydalir Posted October 9, 2009 Author Share Posted October 9, 2009 Thanks for the input Mordray, it's much appreciated. Your reasoning carries through to the Bloodsworn and helps make my theorizing much easier. That is a great boon, and I thank you for it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176300-the-bloodsworn/page/2/#findComment-2144057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Debonair Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 You know, something has just occured to me. If the Bloodsworn don't have a training cadre to enlighten them in the ways of war, who is chosen as the first chapter master, and how is he appointed as such? Perhaps he could be someone who stands out as a natural leader, and the obvious choice for the fledgeling chapter to rally behind, or someone who proves himself worthy of leading the chapter by taking on and completing a series of difficult tests concerning body, mind and soul? I know, it's a minor detail. (It must be, or someone else would have pointed it out by now ^_^ ) But it might just be the detail you need, with any luck. Plus I'd like to read more about this compelling take on the Blood Angels. :P Feel free, as always, to ignore my comments at your leisure. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176300-the-bloodsworn/page/2/#findComment-2147030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Hunter Ydalir Posted October 12, 2009 Author Share Posted October 12, 2009 Feel free, as always, to ignore my comments at your leisure. :tu: Comments and criticism is always appreciated, by me at least. I think you've got enough of a reputation for good comments that you don't need to add a caveat for in case you are wrong or misguided anymore. If the Bloodsworn don't have a training cadre to enlighten them in the ways of war, who is chosen as the first chapter master, and how is he appointed as such? Well I would say they train on Mars as they are raised, or somewhere close by that they can be taught of the Codex ways of war. Yes he would have to be a natural leader and also have the skills needed to run the entire chapter without support from a training cadre. I can guess this would lead to a lot of 'on the job training' and learning from his mistakes, but it's more than possible given the candidates selected for Astartes recruitment and the caliber of men that must be chosen to lead them. Thanks for the comment Ace! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176300-the-bloodsworn/page/2/#findComment-2147726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Victan Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Perhaps the AdMech wanted to see how Sanguinius geneseed performed, along with the marines themselves, without any outside influences at all. Something like a test on the viability of Sanguinius geneseed even with the known defects. Another option is some sort of test to see if the flaws found in the Blood Angels geneseed is genetic or from the practices of the Blood Angels and their successors. You can say that none of the Blood Angels or successors were allowed to teach them to have a control group of sorts for the geneseed. Or, what I find more likely, they would use a very codex chapter, Ultramarines or successor maybe, as the teachers for the new chapter. Just my $.02 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176300-the-bloodsworn/page/2/#findComment-2147776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Debonair Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Feel free, as always, to ignore my comments at your leisure. ;) Comments and criticism is always appreciated, by me at least. I think you've got enough of a reputation for good comments that you don't need to add a caveat for in case you are wrong or misguided anymore. ;) A reputation? Me? :huh: I'm surprised, since my background knowledge is still somewhat sub-par. I can take some pride in that I know a lot more now than I did to begin with, though. I also like to add that line to remind people that my word is most certainly not law. :P I'm just another hopeful with a handful of ideas and no idea how to use them. :D If the Bloodsworn don't have a training cadre to enlighten them in the ways of war, who is chosen as the first chapter master, and how is he appointed as such? Well I would say they train on Mars as they are raised, or somewhere close by that they can be taught of the Codex ways of war. Yes he would have to be a natural leader and also have the skills needed to run the entire chapter without support from a training cadre. I can guess this would lead to a lot of 'on the job training' and learning from his mistakes, but it's more than possible given the candidates selected for Astartes recruitment and the caliber of men that must be chosen to lead them. Thanks for the comment Ace! Happy to help. Your answer clears that up nicely. However, perhaps adding a character of some sort to the Bloodsworn, even a long-deceased commander, could help reinforce how the chapter comes to be the way it is. Also if the marine in question is proud and arrogant to begin with, he could quite simply dismiss the absence of a training cadre as unimportant. Moreover, I can't help but feel that a chapter is most likely to take up a belief system such as this if inspired to do so by a strong leader figure, but that's just how I think. You are, of course, entitled to discard my unenlightened ponderings at your merest whim. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176300-the-bloodsworn/page/2/#findComment-2168818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Debonair Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 You are, of course, entitled to discard my unenlightened ponderings at your merest whim. :P Ah, it seems you did discard my ponderings. :huh: It had to happen sooner or later. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176300-the-bloodsworn/page/2/#findComment-2177665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Hunter Ydalir Posted November 7, 2009 Author Share Posted November 7, 2009 Don't worry Ace I'm not discarding anything! I just didn't know anyone had posted anything and haven't had the time to get to the computer lately. It's that darn real life frolicking so enticingly outside my door that keeps pulling me away from cyberspace. Your idea about a strong leader is great Ace, and is something I'm going to have to mull over when I get around to reworking these guys once again. At the moment my time is taken up by both real life and tiny snippets of the Corsairs and Gehenna when I get a spare moment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176300-the-bloodsworn/page/2/#findComment-2178322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Debonair Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Ah, real life. A curse I am all too familiar with. :D I recommend a thicker door. :D Well, in that case, best of luck with your dealing with the real world. And Gehenna. :P And the Corsairs. :P I'll just wait until these guys are back the top of the to-do list. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176300-the-bloodsworn/page/2/#findComment-2188979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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