Spartans Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Can PAGKs take a Land Raider as a Transport? So in theory you could fill the 3 Heavy slots and then take a 4th Land raider as a transport the PAGK unit? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176469-grey-knight-transports/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 No. Grey Knights in Power Armor have no dedicated transport options. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176469-grey-knight-transports/#findComment-2086104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boreas Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 No, The GKLR is Heavy-slot only. You could have an =I=-lord in a dedicated LR, 3 elite =I= in dedicated LRs and 3 Heavy slot GKLR, though... 7 LR, plus the Inquisitors and retinues, plus a GK hero plus 2 troops come in expensive! Phil Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176469-grey-knight-transports/#findComment-2086105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 I make the cheapest possible 7LR list to be 1,784 points! ;) That's correct isn't it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176469-grey-knight-transports/#findComment-2086113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartans Posted August 21, 2009 Author Share Posted August 21, 2009 Where does it say in the codex that elite inquisitors can take LR I am lookin but cant see it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176469-grey-knight-transports/#findComment-2086115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justicar Valius Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 it says in the same place as it says for inquisitor lords. The inquisitor entry says it can take a retinue as a inquisitor lord but with 0-6 guys rather than 3-12 :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176469-grey-knight-transports/#findComment-2086167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boreas Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 And that usually brings about endless debates about a "0" strong retinue allowing the transport to be taken! Phil Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176469-grey-knight-transports/#findComment-2086186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
number6 Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 And that usually brings about endless debates about a "0" strong retinue allowing the transport to be taken! I hope you're kidding. Even I haven't heard that one! If you have 0 models in your retinue, do you even have a retinue? 0 is generally accepted to mean "nothing", "non-existent", and the like. If an Inquisitor requires a retinue to take a land raider -- and the rules say he does -- then I don't think 0 people qualify. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176469-grey-knight-transports/#findComment-2086208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boreas Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...&hl=retinue You locked that one yourself, number6! haha! Phil Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176469-grey-knight-transports/#findComment-2086223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
number6 Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Heh. Must've spaced it. ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176469-grey-knight-transports/#findComment-2086268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boreas Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 It's definitely better for your sanity! Phil Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176469-grey-knight-transports/#findComment-2086275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Ah yeah. Forgot even the Elite Inquisitors needed a Retinue. In that case the overall cost increases by 18 to 1,802 (if you don't subscribe to the Retinue of size Zero! :P). With room for a few more Troops choices for 2K games. :P Edit: Nuts it! Elite Inqs don't need 3.... Changed points...) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176469-grey-knight-transports/#findComment-2086536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffersonian000 Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 Actually, the cheapest legal DH army list that includes 7 Land Raiders is 2053pts. I covered this in the folloing thread on LR Spamming: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...howtopic=172388 Here is my updated post from that thread covering each amry I have a codex for: Well, I found the 20 HQ statement above to be a bit misleading, so I did some quick force builds to see which armies could do LR spam the best. The only codex I'm missing is Dark Angels, so please forgive me: Space Wolves can have total of 8 Land Raiders due to their ability have up to 20 Wolf Guard which can be fielded as retinues to HQ IC's at a minimum of 4 Wolf Guard Bodyguards to a retinue, and only Wolf Guard Bodyguards may purchase Land Raiders as dedicated transports. And with their HQ requirements of 1 per 750pts, this means that Space Wolves max out on LR's at 3750pts with 5 HQ's and 3 Heavies at a cost of 468pts per Land Raider. Codex Space Marines have access to the cheapest LR's in the game, the Redeemer, and they can top out at 5 Redeemers at 1850pts with 2 Elites and 3 Heavies. Not bad, and at only 370pts per Land Raider. Blood Angels have the cheapest Crusaders in the game at 250pts each with all the trimmings; however, they can only have 3 LR's as they may only take them as Heavies. They max out their LR's on a minimal list of 1080pts for 360pts per Land Raider. Black Templers are the kings of Crusader spam; too bad their Crusaders cost 265pts. They can have 14 LR's on a singel FOC at a minimum army total of 4713pts and 337pts per Land Raider. Not too many people think of Witch Hunter when they think of Land Raiders, yet they too can have up tp 4 in their army: 1 HQ and 3 Elites. The minimal list needed to field all 4 tops out at 1241pts and 310pts per Land Raider. An army I forgot and now just added is the Chaos Space Marines, who at 1830pts can field 6 LR's at 220pts a piece (3 Elite, 3 Heavy), which comes out to 305pts per Land Raider. At 2053pts, a minimal list of Daemonhunters that can field all 7 of their LR's (1 HQ, 3 Elite, 3 Heavy) will cost them 293pts per Land Raider. As such, I'd say that Daemonhunters can field the most LR's for the least amout of points for an overall win of "Who does Land Raider Spam the Best." SJ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176469-grey-knight-transports/#findComment-2086742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 Where did I go wrong in points? HQ: GKBC HQ: Inq Lord, 3xMystics, LR Elite: Inq, 1xMystic, LR Elite: Inq, 1xMystic, LR Elite: Inq, 1xMystic, LR Troop: 5xIST Troop: 5xIST Heavy: GKLR Heavy: GKLR Heavy: GKLR Unless I miscalculated when I summed the points, that's not 2K. LoL! Just re summed them, it is 2053. Must have had an utter Fail day yesterday. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176469-grey-knight-transports/#findComment-2086962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gil galed Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Yeh as has been said it's pretty clear you have to have a retinue, exact wording is "If an inquisitor has a retinue... they may be mounted in" Clearly I think more than one model :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176469-grey-knight-transports/#findComment-2087670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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