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Pre-Heresy Marine - The Emperor's Children's fall

 

http://i25.tinypic.com/9rpx77.jpg

http://i29.tinypic.com/2db81g1.jpg

http://i32.tinypic.com/11qljd0.jpg

and earlier pic showing scale and possible future project

http://i28.tinypic.com/2rnvltc.jpg

 

Hi guys bit of an update to a project iv been working on for quite a long time now. on the front their isnt much of a change, iv finally sorted out the aquilla, iv replaced the plasticard of the loincloth (what is the proper name of those tassles? :?) with thinner more realistic pewter, ill also be puttin some gems on his belt.

The biggest update is to the backpack, iv had to work my way through several ideas to get to this stage, am thinking about placing a few more test tubes somewhere on the backpack to sell the combat drugs idea, once painted the central mixing compartment will be half filled with coloured resin to again sell the effect, still a few bits to tidy up here but am very happy with it.

Lastly the head, this one is the rough head, iv been trying to sculpt some wavy hair on him so theirs a little bit of motion, also iv been considering having half his head shaved so some combat drug tubes/plugs fit. Very happy with how he is coming along, i am lookin to take him to gduk, so keep an eye out for some quick prgress!

 

All the best

Dark

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Very nice. Brilliant pose and smooth sculpting. I like how he is Actual Scale, yet his armour is still sleek as a Emperor's Children's power armour should be. One thing I would change is the head. One with a less enraged expression would suit the model better.
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Very nice and far better than I could ever do, but I agree that the head doesn't quite work, I don't think bald marine heads suit them, I think relatively long, neat hair would be more fitting, at least that's how I imagined them pre-heresy.
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waist/midsection is a bit too narrow if you're going for proper proportions. it looks even slightly thinner than an appropriate human middle out to be, and armored it just gets more and more rexy :D

 

i like that he's sleek, and he bears a very close resemblance to the source:

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/2/24/Emperor

 

about the backpack though...is this guy pre-heresy, or heresy-era? the chaos backpack stands out as a no-no if he's still loyalist, and generally doesn't seem to match up with the rest of the costume.

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I know this is a little older but I found it while doing a search and MY GOD how did I miss this post. Freaking amazing sculpt. And as usual only a few comments... -_- Please don't feel discouraged by lack of responses. Its usually either jealousy or shock value. Please let us see more! :)
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DM, where are your new updates! ^_^

I haven't seen anything here or on CMoN in a little bit!

 

alrite, alrite! keep ur power armour on! its coming....

 

So update time,

 

Well iv taken a whole week off to get this bad boy done, am aiming to have at least the conversion work done by then, maybe even some paint!

http://i28.tinypic.com/wmnj8y.jpg

on this pic u can see the beginning of the scroll work on the leg, i had actually sculpted the other side but like the wrinkles in his head i made the GS too soft and it didnt set so iv had to take them off

http://i28.tinypic.com/25663xk.jpg

http://i26.tinypic.com/2w5q5ft.jpg

Some pics of his new hair, i ended up sculpting each one individually

http://i27.tinypic.com/2gxhetj.jpg

and a nice little highlight/shadow ref, i will be lookin to make his face quite dark with lots of contrast to make him look more sinister

 

Backpack

 

iv tidied up the BP quite alot, the side panels are alot more even and have some scroll work on em, the bottom swirls will have some small gems in them. iv also added more tubing to the back and drilled some holes for the head tubes to go into, the slot where the combat drub canister goes still needs some work

 

http://i26.tinypic.com/hugbjq.jpg

some swirly scrolly detail on the exhaust vent

http://i31.tinypic.com/ivvcsx.jpg

 

Hand

Just doing some detailing work on the underside of his fist, gunna be ur typical chaosy spikes

http://i25.tinypic.com/fu5s9i.jpg

http://i29.tinypic.com/2v0bm6t.jpg

base

 

am still thinking about the base, am prob going to try to keep it minimal, this pic shows a rough mock up of an idea i was having, white milliput when squashed gives u a nice volcanic rock look, so am considering freshly cooled lava as a base (or freshly cooled plasma cannon melted rock...), have yet to decide who the flag will belong to, will need to do some fluff reading to work both out

http://i25.tinypic.com/28slh1g.jpg

 

for the plinth iv been in touch with dave armstong of armstrong bases about a custom octagon plinth. tryin to sort it out has been quite long winded he also seems a little flaky so whether ill get it or not is still up in the air. concerned its too flashy at the mo, suppose ill have to wait and see.

http://i26.tinypic.com/5l7y8w.jpg

Dark purple base with dark gold flecks in....

 

also, any experienced GDers tell me if i was just to base him on the rock and attach it to the plinth, is it legal (ie he aint on a slotta base) and would i need to make him detachable?

 

Nighty Nite

 

John

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small update

 

since am lookin to make quick day by day progress on this dude i thought id try and update me topic at the end of the night just to show how long certain bits take and get some feedback over nite on the stuff iv worked on

 

http://i30.tinypic.com/29axrep.jpg

Some gems have been added to his belt, and the other side of the scroll work has been finished on his leg, still undecided whether to add any more details to his belt, want avoid unnecessary clutter

 

http://i28.tinypic.com/14vjvxs.jpg

some more gems and scroll work, just got to work out wot am doing with the exhaust vents and the BP will be done!

 

http://i32.tinypic.com/13ynt2.jpg

i was a little fortunate when i was adding the scroll work on his gauntlet as his hand was loose and came off, then his arm followed, so iv take the chance to start tidying up the wrist armour and joint coz it was uneven, iv also tidied up the counter weight on the swords handle, still more work to do their.

Am having a bash at makin his fingers more talon like to help the theme, iv also removed the decoration about the sword hilt, will replace it with some kind of scroll work may extend some to the hilt as well

 

nite.... :)

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this is awesome man!

where does the sword come from?

Its actually off the empire wizard, changed the handle and trimmed the pattern off and hey presto, a cool lookin sword

 

and how do you achieve such smooth look and sharp edges on greenstuff?

 

well it depends which parts ur talking about, the only pure GS parts are the solid green parts (the studs on the leg for eg), the rest is a mix of milliput regular and GS 50/50. i dont use files, i find them a big harsh, i actually use quite high grits of sandpaper (600-1000 grit) which is fine the milli/gs mix, it sands great compared to Gs alone, which u just cant sand, also i rarely use any metal tools when molding putty, my scalpel comes in now and again, i use mostly clay shapers with vaseline to reduce the friction. Their basically paint brushes with different shaped silicone tips and because of that they dont actually stick to putty and u can get a fantastically smooth finishs with them, id recommend them to anyone who is interested in conversion work, they make things so much easier.

 

I love the overall elegant and deadly look that keeps a marine style tough..

my compliments..

..keep us posted!

 

Cheers!

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How does one achieve a smooth look and sharp edges on greenstuff? Easy; the wet flat of a blade and files. Oh, when I discovered the wonders of files, I was the happiest boy in all the land...

 

have a look at gettin some clay shapers Trygon, some of your conversions are quite nice, shapers will help u take it up a notch or 2 though, i promise!

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How does one achieve a smooth look and sharp edges on greenstuff? Easy; the wet flat of a blade and files. Oh, when I discovered the wonders of files, I was the happiest boy in all the land...

 

have a look at gettin some clay shapers Trygon, some of your conversions are quite nice, shapers will help u take it up a notch or 2 though, i promise!

 

I have considered them, but most of my conversions don't have enough flat surfaces for it to be worth it. Take this guy fo instance.

 

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/Terrible_Trygon/Red%20Shirts/DSCF0672.jpg

 

This is the average type of model I work on. Lots of clothes, not enough smooth, flat surfaces. At the moment my set of sculpting tools does the job, though if I branch back to sculpting marines, I will defiantly purchase clay shapers. Though it depends, will clay shapers deliver on clothing like the Guard uniform?

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How does one achieve a smooth look and sharp edges on greenstuff? Easy; the wet flat of a blade and files. Oh, when I discovered the wonders of files, I was the happiest boy in all the land...

 

have a look at gettin some clay shapers Trygon, some of your conversions are quite nice, shapers will help u take it up a notch or 2 though, i promise!

 

I have considered them, but most of my conversions don't have enough flat surfaces for it to be worth it. Take this guy fo instance.

 

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/Terrible_Trygon/Red%20Shirts/DSCF0672.jpg

 

This is the average type of model I work on. Lots of clothes, not enough smooth, flat surfaces. At the moment my set of sculpting tools does the job, though if I branch back to sculpting marines, I will defiantly purchase clay shapers.

 

With sculpting it comes down to what ur comfortable with and if ur comfortable with metal tools then fair enough, but just because this marine has alot of large, flat, smooth surfaces doesnt mean i dont use shapers for intricate detailing. for me if i was lookin to replicate your conversion i would use a shaper on all of it, their an incredibly flexible tool that u can use on any type of shape.

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