Darkmessiah Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Pre-Heresy Marine - The Emperor's Children's fall http://i25.tinypic.com/9rpx77.jpg http://i29.tinypic.com/2db81g1.jpg http://i32.tinypic.com/11qljd0.jpg and earlier pic showing scale and possible future project http://i28.tinypic.com/2rnvltc.jpg Hi guys bit of an update to a project iv been working on for quite a long time now. on the front their isnt much of a change, iv finally sorted out the aquilla, iv replaced the plasticard of the loincloth (what is the proper name of those tassles? :?) with thinner more realistic pewter, ill also be puttin some gems on his belt. The biggest update is to the backpack, iv had to work my way through several ideas to get to this stage, am thinking about placing a few more test tubes somewhere on the backpack to sell the combat drugs idea, once painted the central mixing compartment will be half filled with coloured resin to again sell the effect, still a few bits to tidy up here but am very happy with it. Lastly the head, this one is the rough head, iv been trying to sculpt some wavy hair on him so theirs a little bit of motion, also iv been considering having half his head shaved so some combat drug tubes/plugs fit. Very happy with how he is coming along, i am lookin to take him to gduk, so keep an eye out for some quick prgress! All the best Dark Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176707-ph-emperors-child-conversion-finished-on-to-paint/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
hidje Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 pfuh, this is ridiculous, I'm not even going to comment this :P just kiddin, superb sculpting dude ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176707-ph-emperors-child-conversion-finished-on-to-paint/#findComment-2088886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loken86 Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 looking good so far brother i shall be keeping an i on this ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176707-ph-emperors-child-conversion-finished-on-to-paint/#findComment-2088890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrible_Trygon Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Very nice. Brilliant pose and smooth sculpting. I like how he is Actual Scale, yet his armour is still sleek as a Emperor's Children's power armour should be. One thing I would change is the head. One with a less enraged expression would suit the model better. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176707-ph-emperors-child-conversion-finished-on-to-paint/#findComment-2088936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoby Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Very nice and far better than I could ever do, but I agree that the head doesn't quite work, I don't think bald marine heads suit them, I think relatively long, neat hair would be more fitting, at least that's how I imagined them pre-heresy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176707-ph-emperors-child-conversion-finished-on-to-paint/#findComment-2088968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Phoenix Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 waist/midsection is a bit too narrow if you're going for proper proportions. it looks even slightly thinner than an appropriate human middle out to be, and armored it just gets more and more rexy :D i like that he's sleek, and he bears a very close resemblance to the source: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/2/24/Emperor about the backpack though...is this guy pre-heresy, or heresy-era? the chaos backpack stands out as a no-no if he's still loyalist, and generally doesn't seem to match up with the rest of the costume. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176707-ph-emperors-child-conversion-finished-on-to-paint/#findComment-2089074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NemFX Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 I'm not sure about the legs.. They look a bit too short to me. But other than that, stunning work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176707-ph-emperors-child-conversion-finished-on-to-paint/#findComment-2089095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semnos Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Absolutely Stunning. Do you have a website and/or tutorial? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176707-ph-emperors-child-conversion-finished-on-to-paint/#findComment-2089128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sons of Horus Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 great EC :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176707-ph-emperors-child-conversion-finished-on-to-paint/#findComment-2089841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigger-than-Jesus Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Three words- I hate you. That model is seriously amazing and if your painting ability's the same as your modelling, then you should have GD in the bag. Wanna post a tutorial? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176707-ph-emperors-child-conversion-finished-on-to-paint/#findComment-2089907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Toddius Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 I know this is a little older but I found it while doing a search and MY GOD how did I miss this post. Freaking amazing sculpt. And as usual only a few comments... -_- Please don't feel discouraged by lack of responses. Its usually either jealousy or shock value. Please let us see more! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176707-ph-emperors-child-conversion-finished-on-to-paint/#findComment-2104037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Chaplain Astador Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 DM, where are your new updates! :lol: I haven't seen anything here or on CMoN in a little bit! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176707-ph-emperors-child-conversion-finished-on-to-paint/#findComment-2104080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkmessiah Posted September 16, 2009 Author Share Posted September 16, 2009 DM, where are your new updates! ^_^I haven't seen anything here or on CMoN in a little bit! alrite, alrite! keep ur power armour on! its coming.... So update time, Well iv taken a whole week off to get this bad boy done, am aiming to have at least the conversion work done by then, maybe even some paint! http://i28.tinypic.com/wmnj8y.jpg on this pic u can see the beginning of the scroll work on the leg, i had actually sculpted the other side but like the wrinkles in his head i made the GS too soft and it didnt set so iv had to take them off http://i28.tinypic.com/25663xk.jpg http://i26.tinypic.com/2w5q5ft.jpg Some pics of his new hair, i ended up sculpting each one individually http://i27.tinypic.com/2gxhetj.jpg and a nice little highlight/shadow ref, i will be lookin to make his face quite dark with lots of contrast to make him look more sinister Backpack iv tidied up the BP quite alot, the side panels are alot more even and have some scroll work on em, the bottom swirls will have some small gems in them. iv also added more tubing to the back and drilled some holes for the head tubes to go into, the slot where the combat drub canister goes still needs some work http://i26.tinypic.com/hugbjq.jpg some swirly scrolly detail on the exhaust vent http://i31.tinypic.com/ivvcsx.jpg Hand Just doing some detailing work on the underside of his fist, gunna be ur typical chaosy spikes http://i25.tinypic.com/fu5s9i.jpg http://i29.tinypic.com/2v0bm6t.jpg base am still thinking about the base, am prob going to try to keep it minimal, this pic shows a rough mock up of an idea i was having, white milliput when squashed gives u a nice volcanic rock look, so am considering freshly cooled lava as a base (or freshly cooled plasma cannon melted rock...), have yet to decide who the flag will belong to, will need to do some fluff reading to work both out http://i25.tinypic.com/28slh1g.jpg for the plinth iv been in touch with dave armstong of armstrong bases about a custom octagon plinth. tryin to sort it out has been quite long winded he also seems a little flaky so whether ill get it or not is still up in the air. concerned its too flashy at the mo, suppose ill have to wait and see. http://i26.tinypic.com/5l7y8w.jpg Dark purple base with dark gold flecks in.... also, any experienced GDers tell me if i was just to base him on the rock and attach it to the plinth, is it legal (ie he aint on a slotta base) and would i need to make him detachable? Nighty Nite John Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176707-ph-emperors-child-conversion-finished-on-to-paint/#findComment-2113804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
koran Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Loving everything, looks AMAZING. The only thing Im not so sure about is his hair style. Looks a bit emo to me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176707-ph-emperors-child-conversion-finished-on-to-paint/#findComment-2113815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sons_of_Erebus Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 very nice mate! the greenstuff skills are breath taking <_< keep us posted! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176707-ph-emperors-child-conversion-finished-on-to-paint/#findComment-2114012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaemonPrinceDargor Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Amazing!Fulgrim himself would be proud.Perfection mate.. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176707-ph-emperors-child-conversion-finished-on-to-paint/#findComment-2114094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Very nice stuff! Smooth sculpting and the composition is excellent. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176707-ph-emperors-child-conversion-finished-on-to-paint/#findComment-2114251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkmessiah Posted September 17, 2009 Author Share Posted September 17, 2009 small update since am lookin to make quick day by day progress on this dude i thought id try and update me topic at the end of the night just to show how long certain bits take and get some feedback over nite on the stuff iv worked on http://i30.tinypic.com/29axrep.jpg Some gems have been added to his belt, and the other side of the scroll work has been finished on his leg, still undecided whether to add any more details to his belt, want avoid unnecessary clutter http://i28.tinypic.com/14vjvxs.jpg some more gems and scroll work, just got to work out wot am doing with the exhaust vents and the BP will be done! http://i32.tinypic.com/13ynt2.jpg i was a little fortunate when i was adding the scroll work on his gauntlet as his hand was loose and came off, then his arm followed, so iv take the chance to start tidying up the wrist armour and joint coz it was uneven, iv also tidied up the counter weight on the swords handle, still more work to do their. Am having a bash at makin his fingers more talon like to help the theme, iv also removed the decoration about the sword hilt, will replace it with some kind of scroll work may extend some to the hilt as well nite.... :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176707-ph-emperors-child-conversion-finished-on-to-paint/#findComment-2114601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Masariel Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 this is awesome man! where does the sword come from? and how do you achieve such smooth look and sharp edges on greenstuff? I love the overall elegant and deadly look that keeps a marine style tough.. my compliments.. ..keep us posted! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176707-ph-emperors-child-conversion-finished-on-to-paint/#findComment-2114985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrible_Trygon Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 How does one achieve a smooth look and sharp edges on greenstuff? Easy; the wet flat of a blade and files. Oh, when I discovered the wonders of files, I was the happiest boy in all the land... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176707-ph-emperors-child-conversion-finished-on-to-paint/#findComment-2115070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkmessiah Posted September 17, 2009 Author Share Posted September 17, 2009 this is awesome man!where does the sword come from? Its actually off the empire wizard, changed the handle and trimmed the pattern off and hey presto, a cool lookin sword and how do you achieve such smooth look and sharp edges on greenstuff? well it depends which parts ur talking about, the only pure GS parts are the solid green parts (the studs on the leg for eg), the rest is a mix of milliput regular and GS 50/50. i dont use files, i find them a big harsh, i actually use quite high grits of sandpaper (600-1000 grit) which is fine the milli/gs mix, it sands great compared to Gs alone, which u just cant sand, also i rarely use any metal tools when molding putty, my scalpel comes in now and again, i use mostly clay shapers with vaseline to reduce the friction. Their basically paint brushes with different shaped silicone tips and because of that they dont actually stick to putty and u can get a fantastically smooth finishs with them, id recommend them to anyone who is interested in conversion work, they make things so much easier. I love the overall elegant and deadly look that keeps a marine style tough.. my compliments.. ..keep us posted! Cheers! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176707-ph-emperors-child-conversion-finished-on-to-paint/#findComment-2115095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkmessiah Posted September 17, 2009 Author Share Posted September 17, 2009 How does one achieve a smooth look and sharp edges on greenstuff? Easy; the wet flat of a blade and files. Oh, when I discovered the wonders of files, I was the happiest boy in all the land... have a look at gettin some clay shapers Trygon, some of your conversions are quite nice, shapers will help u take it up a notch or 2 though, i promise! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176707-ph-emperors-child-conversion-finished-on-to-paint/#findComment-2115110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrible_Trygon Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 How does one achieve a smooth look and sharp edges on greenstuff? Easy; the wet flat of a blade and files. Oh, when I discovered the wonders of files, I was the happiest boy in all the land... have a look at gettin some clay shapers Trygon, some of your conversions are quite nice, shapers will help u take it up a notch or 2 though, i promise! I have considered them, but most of my conversions don't have enough flat surfaces for it to be worth it. Take this guy fo instance. http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/Terrible_Trygon/Red%20Shirts/DSCF0672.jpg This is the average type of model I work on. Lots of clothes, not enough smooth, flat surfaces. At the moment my set of sculpting tools does the job, though if I branch back to sculpting marines, I will defiantly purchase clay shapers. Though it depends, will clay shapers deliver on clothing like the Guard uniform? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176707-ph-emperors-child-conversion-finished-on-to-paint/#findComment-2115127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Amarel Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Looks amazing. I think the belt is fine, as is - any more added to it and it'll start to look overly fussy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176707-ph-emperors-child-conversion-finished-on-to-paint/#findComment-2115129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkmessiah Posted September 17, 2009 Author Share Posted September 17, 2009 How does one achieve a smooth look and sharp edges on greenstuff? Easy; the wet flat of a blade and files. Oh, when I discovered the wonders of files, I was the happiest boy in all the land... have a look at gettin some clay shapers Trygon, some of your conversions are quite nice, shapers will help u take it up a notch or 2 though, i promise! I have considered them, but most of my conversions don't have enough flat surfaces for it to be worth it. Take this guy fo instance. http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/Terrible_Trygon/Red%20Shirts/DSCF0672.jpg This is the average type of model I work on. Lots of clothes, not enough smooth, flat surfaces. At the moment my set of sculpting tools does the job, though if I branch back to sculpting marines, I will defiantly purchase clay shapers. With sculpting it comes down to what ur comfortable with and if ur comfortable with metal tools then fair enough, but just because this marine has alot of large, flat, smooth surfaces doesnt mean i dont use shapers for intricate detailing. for me if i was lookin to replicate your conversion i would use a shaper on all of it, their an incredibly flexible tool that u can use on any type of shape. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176707-ph-emperors-child-conversion-finished-on-to-paint/#findComment-2115142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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