Azulz Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 As Im reading this awesome tutorial on some of the best things I can do with my CSM army I have so far came across 2 things that I cant reference anywhere. (usually the case is that Im blind as a bat) 1. In the Terminators part there is all this mentioning of "rerolling" missed hits for CC and long range weaponry...why do they get to reroll??? 2. How is it that CSM bikers get a 2+ cover save from turbo boosting? This is way better than what Ive been playing by so i just want to be able to explain it toreference it for my foes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176904-chaos-lord-handbook/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillin Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 1- the only thing I can think of for this (hth) is if they were refering to a termi sorc w/ WT, there is no other way for a termi to get rerolls in hth. For shooting they get rerolls for their TL'ed bolters and reaper AC b/c they are TL'ed (the combi weops do not get rerolls) 2- I believe in the new rule book any bike can turbo boost and get (I believe it's a 3+) invul save. (not sure about the # b/c I don't use bikes) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176904-chaos-lord-handbook/#findComment-2091460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azulz Posted August 26, 2009 Author Share Posted August 26, 2009 TL I understand but the paragraph seems to be worded differently and the BRB states that bikes get a 3+ COVER save from turbo boost, I cant see where the 2+ is coming from. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176904-chaos-lord-handbook/#findComment-2091486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 1. In the Terminators part there is all this mentioning of "rerolling" missed hits for CC and long range weaponry...why do they get to reroll??? I reread the section and the only talk it has about rerolling is for the TL Bolters. The example might have been confusing because they were talking about using them before you assault, so its like you have extra rerolling attacks in CC. 2. How is it that CSM bikers get a 2+ cover save from turbo boosting? This was a misunderstanding. At the time, Icon of Tzeentch improved your Inv Save and since Turbo-Boosting gave you an Inv save, it would improve that. However they changed it to TurboBoosting giving you a Cover Save, so it doesn't impact it anymore (other then giving your Bikers a 5++ save) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176904-chaos-lord-handbook/#findComment-2091490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 Looks like I have to get busy('er) and do some ninja editing. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176904-chaos-lord-handbook/#findComment-2091503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
courage&honor Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 I believe that turbo boosting (pg 76) still gives you a 3+ cover save, so if you take the MOT, you get a 5+ invuln for regular speed with a 3+ regular for reg speed, and a 3+ cover if you move turbo speed. But yes sadly the old MOT trrick has gone by the wayside. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176904-chaos-lord-handbook/#findComment-2091807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corpse. Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Should I Email Mutt-Man for you nihm? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176904-chaos-lord-handbook/#findComment-2091932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Should I Email Mutt-Man for you nihm?Oh you know him? I guess it can never hurt to ask him, I remember asking him some time ago if he wanted to update the tactica, but I guess he was pulled away from the hobby as RL has a tendency to do sometimes. :P In short, Yes please! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176904-chaos-lord-handbook/#findComment-2091949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vissah Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 I dont know about the Terminators but minigun already gave the answer to the Biker question. The 3+ save is not invulnereble but a cover save so you dont get a plus one. IoT only improves your invulnereble save. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176904-chaos-lord-handbook/#findComment-2092002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutt-Man! Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 Should I Email Mutt-Man for you nihm?Oh you know him? I guess it can never hurt to ask him, I remember asking him some time ago if he wanted to update the tactica, but I guess he was pulled away from the hobby as RL has a tendency to do sometimes. :) In short, Yes please! I'll go through a little, I need to update myself on a few things first with some reading. I hate to say it but I've fallen from the grace of the 3+ save and went with other armies, so this is going to be rusty. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176904-chaos-lord-handbook/#findComment-2093663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 Welcome back! Don't worry about being rusty either, this is where this excellent community can step in to assist. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176904-chaos-lord-handbook/#findComment-2093874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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