The emperors chosen Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 In Mechanicus, it talks about the Emperor fighting the void dragon as a knight, with the VD being an actual dragon. Most people think that this is an allegorical story, but in the Last Church, there is a scene describing a fresco, and there is a part of it that has a "a battle between a golden knight and a silver dragon"(page 330, Tales of the heresy). Just thought I would point out this little interesting bit Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176994-the-void-dragon/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lorne Walkier Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 The Void Dragon is a C-Tan. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176994-the-void-dragon/#findComment-2092728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahoo Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 The C-Tan god of technology i think (or something along the lines of technology) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176994-the-void-dragon/#findComment-2092731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadaeux Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 The C-Tan god of technology i think (or something along the lines of technology) Â Pretty much. Â And the Emperor sealed him up. But it would make sense that the Emperor would have to fight him in person in non-technological armour seeing as one of the abilities of the Void Dragon (so far as we have been told) is that he can dominate ANY technology. (Except maybe Ork and Eldar as both are a good deal Psyker-based.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176994-the-void-dragon/#findComment-2092740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The emperors chosen Posted August 28, 2009 Author Share Posted August 28, 2009 i realize that, but some people thought that it was a vision of the dragon, this just proves that it actual happened Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176994-the-void-dragon/#findComment-2093196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brother Hastatus Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 I suppose by the time of the Last Church, the truth about what the Void Dragon really was had become lost. I spose it means the truth had been obscured by this time really! They just made it marginally more 'normal' than a metal dragon, so the legend featured a normal creature. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176994-the-void-dragon/#findComment-2093350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justicar Valius Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 look the Big E beat and imprisoned him and stuck it on mars to create a technologically advanced bunch of dudes to give him uber weapons  We know it and its true. how he beat off possibly the strongest c'tan is still mystery but he would of had to do it without electricity or stuff in his armour so he would had to amazingly teleport in rip the teleporter out lob it away then smack him over the head with many massive steel gerders. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176994-the-void-dragon/#findComment-2093353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadaeux Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 look the Big E beat and imprisoned him and stuck it on mars to create a technologically advanced bunch of dudes to give him uber weapons We know it and its true. how he beat off possibly the strongest c'tan is still mystery but he would of had to do it without electricity or stuff in his armour so he would had to amazingly teleport in rip the teleporter out lob it away then smack him over the head with many massive steel gerders.  The C'tan don't "phase" with the Necrons (no teleporter)  When Necrons phase out the C'tan just flies off. And if the Necrodermis is destroyed it goes up explosively. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176994-the-void-dragon/#findComment-2093761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirax Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 Ah, but the protector of the void dragon had the memories like they were yesterday, like an amalgamation of knowledge of the protectors through the ages, and Dalia was shown an exact replica of what happened, and it was an actual dragon, with a golden knight on a steed riding up and saving a maiden, which spawns a thousand stories about knights and dragons. Â Basically, it was what actually happened. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176994-the-void-dragon/#findComment-2093909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firenze Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 The Guardians I beleive are all low psykers that are able to manipulate technology. This marks them out and can be drawn towards the lair and given the power and memories of previous Guardians as to help them maintain the prison. I also believe the power is a portion of the Emperors power, like soul binding without the blindness. That'd be a bugger, blind in a cave with a C'tan. Fun. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176994-the-void-dragon/#findComment-2094388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialIssue Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 That'd be a bugger, blind in a cave with a C'tan. Fun. :D Â What really boggles my brains and tests my logic in the story is how in the friggin yo-yo of all creation did the big E get to Mars to bury the beast - back in the 6th century BC? As far as I know, even the Emperor is not capable of interplanetary space flight without a ship... correct me if I'm wrong. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176994-the-void-dragon/#findComment-2094789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadaeux Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 That'd be a bugger, blind in a cave with a C'tan. Fun. :D Â What really boggles my brains and tests my logic in the story is how in the friggin yo-yo of all creation did the big E get to Mars to bury the beast - back in the 6th century BC? As far as I know, even the Emperor is not capable of interplanetary space flight without a ship... correct me if I'm wrong. Â Considering Chaos Sorcerers can use the Warp to "teleport" and travel around I see no reason why a guy capable of creating a psychic mental assault as powerful as a supernova couldn't do the same. Â EDIT: Â The other alternative is that the Emperor didn't REALLY imprison the Void Dragon, instead the Void Dragon finished planting the 'seeds' of the Pariah gene in humanity and the Emperor destroyed its Necrodermis shell effectively "banishing" it back to Mars where it didn't bother waking up as it needs time for the seeds of its work to grow. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176994-the-void-dragon/#findComment-2094809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeslikethunder Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 That'd be a bugger, blind in a cave with a C'tan. Fun. :D Â What really boggles my brains and tests my logic in the story is how in the friggin yo-yo of all creation did the big E get to Mars to bury the beast - back in the 6th century BC? As far as I know, even the Emperor is not capable of interplanetary space flight without a ship... correct me if I'm wrong. Â Considering Chaos Sorcerers can use the Warp to "teleport" and travel around I see no reason why a guy capable of creating a psychic mental assault as powerful as a supernova couldn't do the same. Â EDIT: Â The other alternative is that the Emperor didn't REALLY imprison the Void Dragon, instead the Void Dragon finished planting the 'seeds' of the Pariah gene in humanity and the Emperor destroyed its Necrodermis shell effectively "banishing" it back to Mars where it didn't bother waking up as it needs time for the seeds of its work to grow. Â or put him there later Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176994-the-void-dragon/#findComment-2094832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The emperors chosen Posted August 31, 2009 Author Share Posted August 31, 2009 maybe the VD fled to mars? This also begs the questions of who the heck was watching the thing for over 30 thousand years ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176994-the-void-dragon/#findComment-2095379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VorpalPoolNoodle Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Old Emps is/was possibly the most powerful psyker in the history of the galaxy (barring the Old Ones). He didn't need technology to beat the Void Dragon. Warp energy is inimical to the C'tan's very essence. I'm pretty sure he could wrangle it up good and tight. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176994-the-void-dragon/#findComment-2095440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sons of Horus Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 the emperor probably put the Dragon on mars several millennia later since teleporting would be a problem because C'tan don't exist in the Warp. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176994-the-void-dragon/#findComment-2095666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Angel Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Yes the VD was injured and weak. It was on the run from others of its own kind. The Emperor probalby inprisoned it some where on earth first to kick of the industrial revolution and then later when Mars was more easily reached and altered to suport human life he took it there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/176994-the-void-dragon/#findComment-2096023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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