chapter master 454 Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Right I'm someone who feels metal is always left out, it is an element for earth is rock but metal refers to something that takes all 4 elements and blends together. Metal is the most strange element for it can become the razor-sharp sword then the mighty wall. The hidden dagger to swift rapier (spelt right?) and yet it feels like a pointless to create list at first but I would like to throw down that gauntlet to the tactica astartes, I personally wish to know if you can create a list that can do all that air, fire, earth and water can do but not as well but still be far more flexible in tactics. Turning the swift rapier to hidden dagger then to a shield only for the sword to counter attack after. Is this impossible or is there some way of creating a 5th element army list type? Or am I wasting space? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178163-airwaterfireearth-what-about-metal/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warp Angel Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 The classical elements of Greek (and thus Western) civilization were Air, Fire, Water, and Earth. That's why you usually only see four referenced. The orientals often added spirit or wood to the discussion. This is reflected directly in Go Rin No Sho (The book of Five Rings) by Miaymoto Musashi. Void (or no mind) being spirit. Since that work became a part of western military thinking, we ended up with the four elements in our tactica discussion here. Void is hard to apply and poorly understood, so not often referenced except with the advice to "decide quickly", or "act now". Which isn't really a playstyle, to be honest. And I'm pretty sure that unless you have a very specific way of thinking about a "metal" army, it's going to end up being better described as an earth, fire, water, or air army by the board's use of the terms. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178163-airwaterfireearth-what-about-metal/#findComment-2106299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 For my money, a good water list is one that can mimic the other elemental types when its appropriate. That means its already an amalgam elemental (comprised of fire/water/air). I think people might try to get creative with mixed elemental lists (earth/fire = clay) but generally I believe sticking with the 4 major ones will be the simplest, especially since most people's understanding of those terms is somewhat varied already. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178163-airwaterfireearth-what-about-metal/#findComment-2106350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ktan Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 @WA I'm pretty sure Ethereal existed as a Greek element, but I'm not 100% certain since I did just read if off wikipedia quite a while ago. EDIT: Actually, it's Aether. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_ele...ments_in_Greece Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178163-airwaterfireearth-what-about-metal/#findComment-2106387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkios Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 I believe the correct fifth element is not metal, but . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178163-airwaterfireearth-what-about-metal/#findComment-2106490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
drakus40k Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 I believe the correct fifth element is not metal, but . Great. I've been trying to forget about that drek for years...now I have the stupid theme song stuck in my head... B) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178163-airwaterfireearth-what-about-metal/#findComment-2106635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaplain_quint Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 oh yeah! I'll create an army with all five elements and call my HQ captain planet..... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178163-airwaterfireearth-what-about-metal/#findComment-2107469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekLee688 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 /\ Facepalm... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178163-airwaterfireearth-what-about-metal/#findComment-2112843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chengar Qordath Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 oh yeah! I'll create an army with all five elements and call my HQ captain planet..... The average Imperium Hive World would probably make Captain Planet claw his own eyes out in horror. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178163-airwaterfireearth-what-about-metal/#findComment-2112852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Personally when I go for an element to characterise my army its pretty easy: Hydrogen. Simple, flexable, ever present and stable. Useful for all sorts of things, easy to field.... you really just cant beat hydrogen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178163-airwaterfireearth-what-about-metal/#findComment-2113467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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