captain sox Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Greetings. I was thinking about making a LRC and I had a question about the Hurricane Bolter. If there is 3 twin linked bolters on each sponson, do they still count as being rapid fire? A simple question! soxster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkios Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Yes. and since they are mounted on a vehicle, they get no penalty for moving. That means EACH one gets 3 bolter shots up to 24 inches or 6 shots up to 12, and can re-roll all misses. On top of this, they are defensive weapons (str is 4 or less) so they can be fired in addition to the number of weapons normally allowed when moving up to combat speed. This means a LRC can move 6 inches, fire its 1 gun (twin assault cannon) normally allowed by the vehicle rules, fire a second gun (pintle mounted multimelta upgrade, for instance) due to its Machine Spirit rule, and then still fire all defensive weapons (both hurricane bolters)! So with a LRC, it matters not whether you stand still or move 6 inches, as you can still fire all guns (but if you move over 6 then only 1 gun from the Machine spirit can fire, and no defensives.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 This is all true, but recall that only the weapon that you fire with Machine Spirit can select a target different from the rest of your weapons. So you will often times find you can only fire one sponson weapon as a "defensive weapon" as both won't be able to trace line of sight to the same target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain sox Posted September 11, 2009 Author Share Posted September 11, 2009 Holy smoke! Thanks for the information! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypher 102 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Don't forget to tack a storm bolter (yet another defensive weapon) on there for a total of 13 shots at 24 inches and 19 at 12 inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gil galed Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 also if its a GK LRC it can always fire it's hurricane bolters no matter how far it has moved, Awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty the Pyro Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Yeah but GK crusaders make out like bandets anyway, what with the multimelta and extra armor standard, for an extra 5 pts, I would take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chengar Qordath Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Yeah but GK crusaders make out like bandets anyway, what with the multimelta and extra armor standard, for an extra 5 pts, I would take it. Well, GK Crusaders are stuck using the old Assault Cannon that's just Heavy 3 instead of Heavy 4 Rending, which makes the GK Crusader a bit less awesome than it would normally be. I'd rather have the ability to move 12" and fire the hurricane bolters than a good assault cannon though, and the 20 pts of free upgrades vs. SM Crusaders is also pretty nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gil galed Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Yeah but GK crusaders make out like bandets anyway, what with the multimelta and extra armor standard, for an extra 5 pts, I would take it. Well, GK Crusaders are stuck using the old Assault Cannon that's just Heavy 3 instead of Heavy 4 Rending, which makes the GK Crusader a bit less awesome than it would normally be. I'd rather have the ability to move 12" and fire the hurricane bolters than a good assault cannon though, and the 20 pts of free upgrades vs. SM Crusaders is also pretty nice. indeed, 12" move with the hurricane bolters taking down hordes and the PoTMS firing the multi melta at big gribblys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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