the great beaver Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 okay...in kill points...do you think each wolf guard who is split off from the wolf guard pack gives a kill point to your enemy like split up marine squads do? storm caller....does it affect models who are within 6inches when the spell is cast or do units have to stay within 6 inches to keep the benefit did you notice that wolf guard can take frost blades in terminator armour but wolf lords and wolf guard bodyguards can't? I hope that's an over sight. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178369-questions-about-the-dex/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Yeah, hoping they fix the WL in termie armor and FB thing. Makes no sense. However, I wasn't planning on fielding a WL in T armor. The nonsense of it just miffs me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178369-questions-about-the-dex/#findComment-2109056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 A few more questions about the new dex: With the changes in OBEL, can more then one scout squad use this ability? Can Fenrisian Wolves still be taken as retinue/wargear for an HQ? are our dreadnought prices in line with C:SM? Does MoTW still have the drawback of being hit by the enemy on 3's, is the price the same? Coming in at over 200 points Ragnar and Njarl can still be ID'd? Prices for the sagas? My apologies if the question on point costs is agains forum rules, I just haven't heard about the price range for them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178369-questions-about-the-dex/#findComment-2109064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growler67 Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 See page 1 of this thread: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...howtopic=172982 It has all the information known until the new Dex arrives in stores. It is NOT complete, but close enough to consider a working copy. If your questions are not covered by the information there, keep asking. However, as far as uber-specifics, you are going to have to wait like the rest of us until it is in your hands. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178369-questions-about-the-dex/#findComment-2109085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mar Bloodaxe Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Yeah, hoping they fix the WL in termie armor and FB thing. Makes no sense. However, I wasn't planning on fielding a WL in T armor. The nonsense of it just miffs me. I agree. I guess If I wanted to use the Runic armour instead to get the Frostblade and do a counts as. My guy is in Terminator armour. *Edit* Looking at it again, the WGBL has the same problem. It might be by design? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178369-questions-about-the-dex/#findComment-2109093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaScotius Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 About the Frost Blade and Terminator Armour issue, this may be by design as I think the Codex Space Marines Chapter Master/Company Captain does not have the option to take a Relic Blade when in Terminator Armour. So, it might just be a hang over from that, or some other mythical Games Workshop logic, which is far beyond the ken of us mere mortals! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178369-questions-about-the-dex/#findComment-2109169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reechard Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Sorry for slightly hijacking But can Space Wolves use jump packs? Noob who has never played SM and been out of the hobby for 7 ish years Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178369-questions-about-the-dex/#findComment-2109312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Runner Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Hi Reechard, they can, but only the Blood claws or Skyclaws as they are now called and Wolfguard. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178369-questions-about-the-dex/#findComment-2109319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reechard Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Thanks That may ruin my plans :) But will have to see if I can work round it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178369-questions-about-the-dex/#findComment-2109323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasterfree Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 storm caller....does it affect models who are within 6inches when the spell is cast or do units have to stay within 6 inches to keep the benefit its 24"! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178369-questions-about-the-dex/#findComment-2109381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasterfree Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 A few more questions about the new dex: With the changes in OBEL, can more then one scout squad use this ability? i believe so. i do not think that there is a restriction on this Can Fenrisian Wolves still be taken as retinue/wargear for an HQ? only for ragnar iirc, but then again i never take them so i dont look for them are our dreadnought prices in line with C:SM? for the most part yes, and you can give your dread a wtn! Does MoTW still have the drawback of being hit by the enemy on 3's, is the price the same? nope! you get d6+1 attacks and they are rending Coming in at over 200 points Ragnar and Njarl can still be ID'd? yes. they do not have eternal, only logan does. but in combat correctly with ragnar this will not matter, and i would suggest keeping nyjal away from combat anway Prices for the sagas? iirc they are all 35, but i may be wrong about that Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178369-questions-about-the-dex/#findComment-2109384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 A few more questions about the new dex: With the changes in OBEL, can more then one scout squad use this ability? All Wolf Scout packs get the new BEL ability (so you could have all three Elite choices taken up by Wolf Scouts (30 total Scouts!) that have the new version of BEL). Since we are on the subject of Wolf Scouts, here is some more for you: Size of Pack 5-10 + Wolf Guard Pack Leader (optional) All can get Melta-bombs Up to two can trade their Bolt Pistol for a Power Sword or Plasma Pistol One can take a Flamer, or Meltagun, or Plasma gun, or Heavy Bolter, or Missile Launcher One can take the Mark of the Wulfen (very cool!) Any can trade Bolt Pistol and/or CCW for a Boltgun or Sniper Rifle Still a great unit, Valerian Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178369-questions-about-the-dex/#findComment-2109468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the great beaver Posted September 13, 2009 Author Share Posted September 13, 2009 storm caller....does it affect models who are within 6inches when the spell is cast or do units have to stay within 6 inches to keep the benefit its 24"! that's tempest's wrath...I'm talking about storm caller where all models within 6inches gains a 5+cover save. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178369-questions-about-the-dex/#findComment-2109469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 storm caller....does it affect models who are within 6inches when the spell is cast or do units have to stay within 6 inches to keep the benefit its 24"! that's tempest's wrath...I'm talking about storm caller where all models within 6inches gains a 5+cover save. Beaver, I believe the units have to be within 6" (e.g. at least one model from the unit), when they are called upon to take saves in order to receive the benefit of Storm Caller's cover save. Valerian Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178369-questions-about-the-dex/#findComment-2109473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasterfree Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 i want to say it is 24 for storm caller also Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178369-questions-about-the-dex/#findComment-2109593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokeiSHP Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 Can any of the HQ choices take Jump Packs? Also if a Wolf Priest takes Saga of the Hunter, is that also applied to a unit he is attached to? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178369-questions-about-the-dex/#findComment-2109600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 i want to say it is 24 for storm caller also Nope. It's 6". Can any of the HQ choices take Jump Packs? Yes Also if a Wolf Priest takes Saga of the Hunter, is that also applied to a unit he is attached to? No Valerian Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178369-questions-about-the-dex/#findComment-2110010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 Posted this elsewhere and I don't see why not but can you take a squad of wolf guard and equip them all with jump packs for an uber jump pack squad? Or does it specify that they have to be attached to Skyriders if equipped with jump packs? I'm thinking of planetstrike and lots of wolf guard deploying by jump pack. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178369-questions-about-the-dex/#findComment-2110018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeddon Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 Posted this elsewhere and I don't see why not but can you take a squad of wolf guard and equip them all with jump packs for an uber jump pack squad? Or does it specify that they have to be attached to Skyriders if equipped with jump packs? I'm thinking of planetstrike and lots of wolf guard deploying by jump pack. You can but it'd be über expensive. Over forty points a model and that's if you don't switch out the weapons or buy any other upgrades! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178369-questions-about-the-dex/#findComment-2110319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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