Ghaust Mortium Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Hello, I was wondering as to whether or not this style of helmet is an ultramarine only option. I have been wanting to make a pre heresy army but I want to avoid the Ultramarines at all posssible. Thanks for any help you can give. Here's the helmet: http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Ultramarines/Ultconce1.jpg This is not my image Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178370-helmet-variation-question/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-wrex Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 You can use any helmet type you wish, just be sure to cover up/file off the ultra symbols if there are any on the helm and you should be fine. That is quite an awesome looking helmet, also. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178370-helmet-variation-question/#findComment-2109019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ufthak Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 I've asked myself the same question a few times :) After asking around a lot, checking the "Collected Visions - The Horus Heresy" artwork book and other sources, I can conclude: The helmet is not an Ultramarine only option. There are pictures of Emperor's Children and Raven Guard using it. But, admittedly, 90% of all artworks show the Smurfs using them, so my quess is it's a Macragge-produced helmet which was mostly used by the smurfs, but also issued in small numbers to other Legions. I think you can use it - I'd combine it with the MkV "Heresy" suit, since "MkV" is a general term describing experimental suits, prototypes, mixed suits, and special bits of armour, as well as the standard MkV suit. So, in my eyes, anything deviating from the standard Mk I, II, III, IV, and VI suits is a MkV. But then, that's my opinion...use it in any way you like :lol: looking forward to seeing finished models! Hope that helped Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178370-helmet-variation-question/#findComment-2109161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirax Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 I have been wanting to make a pre heresy army but I want to avoid the Ultramarines at all posssible. Good boy! Now, as far as I know, this is an Ultramar pattern helmet, but I suppose you could say of company of your Legion aske Guilliman for the patterns, I think the IH would do that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178370-helmet-variation-question/#findComment-2109192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigger-than-Jesus Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Emperor's Children and Ravenguard both used them as well. I think it was a MkII/III helmet pattern. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178370-helmet-variation-question/#findComment-2109350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 It looks like a variant Mk 3 helmet, given the heavy plate facing the front. Of course, it does come from the Collected Visions book, which sometimes takes... liberties... with the armour styles, but that doesn't mean it doesn't look damn cool. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178370-helmet-variation-question/#findComment-2109575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund Himself Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 Click here for a tutorial on how to model them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178370-helmet-variation-question/#findComment-2109640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Scourge Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 The squad pictured at the bottom of your tutorial look great. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178370-helmet-variation-question/#findComment-2109699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firenze Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 I would also say they can be used in any Legion. The Ultramar Pattern isn't solely for the Ultramarines. I may do some on my Alphas. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178370-helmet-variation-question/#findComment-2109724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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