spikyjames Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Hi all Well i'm on the look out for some pack marking pics, i know they're not particularly hard to make up i just like a bit of reference TBH. hope you can help or at least point me in the right direction. cheers James Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178733-pack-markings/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growler67 Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Will probably be described in the Dex like it has in past ones. Red and Yellow= Blood Claws Yellow and Black= Grey Hunters White and Black= Long Fangs Or are you not looking for the color thing but something else? Like the iconography or symbols in similar context to the UltraSmurfs; ie, eg, Arrows pointing this way or that to indicate Assault, Tactical and such? The decal sheet has Blood Claw, Grey Hunter, and Long Fang types of Symbols and Icons if that is what you are inquiring about. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178733-pack-markings/#findComment-2114217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedMoon Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 i thought wolf guard were yellow and black and grey hunters were black and red.....hope im right or i have alot of repainting to do... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178733-pack-markings/#findComment-2114221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Runner Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 RedMoon is right. The 2nd edition pack markings were: WG = black & yellow GH = black & red LF = black & white BC = red & yellow WSc = red & white Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178733-pack-markings/#findComment-2114255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growler67 Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 My bad. Appologies for any confusion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178733-pack-markings/#findComment-2114356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 RedMoon is right. The 2nd edition pack markings were: WG = black & yellow GH = black & red LF = black & white BC = red & yellow WSc = red & white This is how my packs are done up... for markings I just use runes- each pack gets 1 rune, each wolf gaurd gets two. Characters are entirely at my whim and mercy. Muahahahahaaaa. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178733-pack-markings/#findComment-2114378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnars Claw Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 You can pick up a 2nd ed codex from a local charity shop for cheap and it has the pack markings shown in it along with campaign badges etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178733-pack-markings/#findComment-2114400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Runner Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 RedMoon is right. The 2nd edition pack markings were: WG = black & yellow GH = black & red LF = black & white BC = red & yellow WSc = red & white This is how my packs are done up... for markings I just use runes- each pack gets 1 rune, each wolf gaurd gets two. Characters are entirely at my whim and mercy. Muahahahahaaaa. I use runes on the BC packs. I call them the 'Runes of Acceptance' into the chapter. The BC then spends the rest of his free time killing the enemies of man to get rid of it any take his place amoung the GH. That is from my fluff-perspective. Oh, do you give lessons in maniacal laughs, mine sounds like a Chihuahua choking on an mammoth bone. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178733-pack-markings/#findComment-2114417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadir Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 The whole marking code is in the new dex. And in the older versions too Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178733-pack-markings/#findComment-2114446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillen Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 but you can use any color system you want. Just make sure the WGPLs stand out from the rest of the pack. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178733-pack-markings/#findComment-2114449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirnir Ragefang Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 I mark the left shoulderpad with my Great Company Mark, a Wolfpawprint. The Right is usually marked with the Rune of the Pack leader or the Russ-Rune or a mixture of these. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178733-pack-markings/#findComment-2114457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hrathnar Flintfang Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Just come up with something that looks sufficiently wolfy and either mask off/paint some triangles using red/yellow/blue/black in whatever combination you wish, or if you feel like going the more expensive route try buying some waterslide paper and printing off a sheet of something you find on the interweb or make in paint. Remember wolves reject authority, and great companies have new markings with every new wolf lord. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178733-pack-markings/#findComment-2114489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baluc Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Wold scouts have been changed to black markings on their armour, no more white and red Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178733-pack-markings/#findComment-2114549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Each of my packs has a different colour because I can't freehand well, and I don't have a company marking either, fluffwise my lord knows each warrior. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178733-pack-markings/#findComment-2114564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DV8 Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 I've noticed people have mostly just given you the marking "colors" (for dags or basic geometric shapes) for the packs, but here's a (crappy) scan of the Space Wolf Transfer sheet, with the generalities of usage marked out. If you need a better scan, fire me a PM and I'll happily oblige. http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn221/artrelegis/spacewolvestransfersheet-1.jpg DV8 PS Those are the "recommended" markings and their usage. By all means feel free to vary it up and mix and match. As an example, I use the Long Fangs markings for my Sternguard (It's the Grey Hunter icon eating a dagger), because to me it's like a variation of the Grey Hunters (the knife means extra bitey! ;) ) http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn221/artrelegis/Space%20Wolves/DSC08383.jpg http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn221/artrelegis/Space%20Wolves/DSC08395.jpg PPS The Great Company markings as of the 3rd Edition Codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178733-pack-markings/#findComment-2115314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durfast Spiritwolf Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 but you can use any color system you want. Just make sure the WGPLs stand out from the rest of the pack. Not really, if you were to give your Grey Hunters yellow and red markers then it would mislead an opponent who knew the 2nd edition scheme. Even if you explained it, it could still cause confusion during a game and give you an unfair advantage. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178733-pack-markings/#findComment-2115453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 Not really, if you were to give your Grey Hunters yellow and red markers then it would mislead an opponent who knew the 2nd edition scheme. Even if you explained it, it could still cause confusion during a game and give you an unfair advantage. If your models are WISIWIG with regards to their wargear this shouldn't be a problem as Bloodclaws don't carry bolters. Even still, you should be able to paint litle pink hearts on your shoulder pads if you wanted too, it's your army and you are the boss. I'd feel sorry for anyone who became confused by such "camoflage" but I don't think the advantage would be unfair in any way. Simple geometric shapes like diamonds and triangles shouldn't be too hard to freehand. The trick is to use the lighter colour first and then "fix" it with the darker colour. That way each pack of GH or BC becomes distinct from the rest of the army and each wolfguard can have his own personal markings. If you are not super confident with your freehand skills just practice a few times on paper first. good luck. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178733-pack-markings/#findComment-2115971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hrathnar Flintfang Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 Honestly if they wonder what your pack markings are they can always ask. If you use a divergent paint scheme and it confuses your opponent then it is his/her responsibility to ask. Granted you should always give them specific information before hand, but that doesn't mean you should be prohibited from playing wolf lord and deciding on your own markings. If it really becomes a problem with colors or markings then go ahead and print up some simple markings = pack cards to hand out to your opponents for them to reference. Of course if it gets to that point I think odds are good that you have other tactical advantages over your foe that he should worry about. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178733-pack-markings/#findComment-2115989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikyjames Posted September 18, 2009 Author Share Posted September 18, 2009 Thanks for all the replies everyone, it's almost started a debate! I was more looking for examples of actual markings, i know what the colours should be, but i have managed to get a pic from the old book for reference now. Here's how my wolves are shaping up so far http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d42/spikyjames/Wolves/100_3832.jpg http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d42/spikyjames/Wolves/100_3830.jpg i do actually have the whole pack done, but they're a bit headless at the minute. Cheers james Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178733-pack-markings/#findComment-2116011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Runner Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 Beautiful work spikyjames, neat, very well shaded and highlighted and the faces have great character. A 1st class paint job. Post more when they're finished. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178733-pack-markings/#findComment-2116084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durfast Spiritwolf Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 Not really, if you were to give your Grey Hunters yellow and red markers then it would mislead an opponent who knew the 2nd edition scheme. Even if you explained it, it could still cause confusion during a game and give you an unfair advantage. If your models are WISIWIG with regards to their wargear this shouldn't be a problem as Bloodclaws don't carry bolters. Even still, you should be able to paint litle pink hearts on your shoulder pads if you wanted too, it's your army and you are the boss. I'd feel sorry for anyone who became confused by such "camoflage" but I don't think the advantage would be unfair in any way. It could still lead to confusion between Blood Claws and Grey Hunters as they can both be equipped with CCW but the attacks on the charge would be different as would basic WS and BS. You are the boss but, even if told, if it looks like a BC but is really a GH then your opponent may return to the default setting after a few turns. Would that be your fault? I'm so not sure it would be so cut and dried but in a friendly game it could annoy your opponent and undermine your reputation, and in a tournament, well you can imagine the reception camouflage would receive! It's a bit like using normal boyz to represent nobz, or guardians to represent dire avengers... Thanks for all the replies everyone, it's almost started a debate! I was more looking for examples of actual markings, i know what the colours should be, but i have managed to get a pic from the old book for reference now. Here's how my wolves are shaping up so far Great stuff James - they're really turning out very nice indeed Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178733-pack-markings/#findComment-2116153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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