thade Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 I told myself that my next army would be far removed from Space Marines...but I can't get over how cool the Space Wolves seem, and recently I had a look at the old codex (which I understand will be replaced in early October) and I have all these spare marine bits from the army I just built.... I wouldn't want to do straight Space Wolves only because I like coming up with my own color schemes...but is a DIY wolf brother successor chapter a kosher thing? Are there successors? I don't want to get shunned. :D But I do like the way squads can be geared out and the whole counter-attack thing. I'm all about the assault-based army, and it looks like I could build an assault heavy SW chapter...with wolves. @_@ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178922-i-find-space-wolves-alluring/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrickthegrey Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 Most likely, I would say do a Lost company, if you don't want to go with one the great companies. A lost company are Still SW, but they are still far ranging. As to Successors, there are none, however nothing will stop you from saying they are Imperial Lions, or so other custom made Chapter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178922-i-find-space-wolves-alluring/#findComment-2116911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Runner Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 Your best shot is a Lost Company. There are supposedly several fluff-wise. Or just do a DIY chapter. Either option works perfectly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178922-i-find-space-wolves-alluring/#findComment-2116931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 Yeah, no reason a Chapter, especially one that recruited from feral worlds, wouldnt follow a similar structure to space wolves. Its not going to be common, but it doesnt have to be unique either. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178922-i-find-space-wolves-alluring/#findComment-2117324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillen Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 Indeed and if you really want to make a successor you could but you need to come up with a way that they were lost in time. Or why they were made without anyone knowing it. We do have a bunch of Wolf Lords that leave the fang and stay loyal. Which is what I am working on. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178922-i-find-space-wolves-alluring/#findComment-2117331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Lord Durgann Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 Just curious here.. I've heard of the Imperium slowing time.. and speeding time up.... but its possible that it could reverse time right? So... I could potentially have a successor from the future if that was true... just a thought.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178922-i-find-space-wolves-alluring/#findComment-2117338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanger Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 There was only 1 successor chapter, called Wolf Brothers. But because of rampart mutation they have been exterminated. And most peple don't take you serious if you come up with that. You caould go the "Lost Company" route, but there was only 1 (the 13th), but maybe this part of the SW background is changed in the upcoming codex. The most convenient solution would be that of a warband of a charismatic Wolf Lord. Tough they would still have a similar color scheme to that of the "regular" Wolves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178922-i-find-space-wolves-alluring/#findComment-2117572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 Just curious here.. I've heard of the Imperium slowing time.. and speeding time up.... but its possible that it could reverse time right? So... I could potentially have a successor from the future if that was true... just a thought.. The Imperium cannot do anything with time. The warp does that, and yes it is somewhat possible that ships can get thrown into the past. However with the time of ending stuff GW put up with the 5th Edition stuff there may not be a future Imperium... Anyway no it would not really be possible to have a successor from the past just lost in time or the future and there can't really be any made in secret either. Space Wolves gene-seed just doesn't work away from Fenris, the Wolf Brothers went insane and had to be destroyed because of the instability of the gene-seed. I suppose the genetic material of the people of Fenris is the only thing that can react properly to the volatile Canis Helix and produce proper recruits that aren't raving lunatics. Lost Companies are another matter, there have been potentially dozens of various lost companies over time that could change their armor color and what not over time. Just remember that Space Marines are not exactly self sufficient when on long deployments, they can't re-arm or re-supply and they can't just demand supplies from any old Forge World either and of course there would be no new recruits. So your time frame is fairly limited with a Lost Company, other than that it's the best way to do a Space Wolf army that's got a variant scheme. Otherwise your going to have to come up with a successor based off of another Primarch and figure ways for them to emulate the organisation of the Wolves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178922-i-find-space-wolves-alluring/#findComment-2117643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG Vrox Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 Well said Vash. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178922-i-find-space-wolves-alluring/#findComment-2117696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted September 20, 2009 Author Share Posted September 20, 2009 Thanks for all the replies all; lots to think about. Possibly a lost chapter then...one that, once it found the Space Wolves again, would reintegrate immediately...but may not have repainted all of their armor to fit the scheme? Or just some chapter with a lot of "counts as" stuff all renamed by me. Hmm. I presume it's more or less cemented somewhere that the SW won't allow another successor chapter to be created (even in the most recent founding)? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178922-i-find-space-wolves-alluring/#findComment-2118544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decoy Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 Quite, Thade. Wolves are pretty much exempt from having to create successor Chapters. The only thing we do that's close to that is have Warbands leave the fang, as described above. You could always go the way of the Dark Side, however... The 13th Company, the Wulfenbrothers, who fight through the Eye of Terror and back again, always hounding the heels of Chaos scum no matter where they may turn, where they may hide, never ceasing their stride until their final order, given by Russ himself, is fulfilled with the destruction of the enemies of Russ and the Emperor! *cough* Anyways, yeah. Lost company, one way or another might be the way to go. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178922-i-find-space-wolves-alluring/#findComment-2118551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 Do Lost Company. White Dwarf 245 (US), Get it. Know it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178922-i-find-space-wolves-alluring/#findComment-2118552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Remiel Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 I told myself that my next army would be far removed from Space Marines...but I can't get over how cool the Space Wolves seem, and recently I had a look at the old codex (which I understand will be replaced in early October) and I have all these spare marine bits from the army I just built.... I wouldn't want to do straight Space Wolves only because I like coming up with my own color schemes...but is a DIY wolf brother successor chapter a kosher thing? Are there successors? I don't want to get shunned. ;) But I do like the way squads can be geared out and the whole counter-attack thing. I'm all about the assault-based army, and it looks like I could build an assault heavy SW chapter...with wolves. @_@ GW has not ruled out that a non-SW successor chapter (as there are no SW successors) has adopted a similar organization and possibly insignia. The Red Wolves come to mind but I do not know if they were SW like or just vanilla SMs with SW like name and insignia. So, as previously suggested, going with a Lost Company or making your own DIY are both excellent options (and totally within the fluff). One thing I would recommend however, if you decide to go with a DIY chapter that adopted SW organization, have a good story to explain why rather than using the parent's or vanilla SMs organization. Make it is good or the Inquisition may start to wonder about the stability of your chapter and whether someone was messing around or made a mistake with the geneseed. [Cut to small room located in an Inquisitorial facility] AdMech representative "Madam Inquisitor. We have a small problem. About a millenium ago, someone mis-filed some geneseed." :sweat: Madam Inquisitor "Really. When did you discover the error?" AdMech "Uhmm, Tuesday?!" :unsure: Inquisitor "TUESDAY??!!!! :blink: So there may be chapters out there that have been founded with the wrong geneseed??" AdMech "Uhmm, yes." Inquisitor "We can hope that the wrong geneseed is from Ultramarine origins. They do represent, what 60% of geneseed??" AdMech "Uhmm, yes." Inquisitor "What are you not telling me?? How many chapters were created from the wrong geneseed??" :( AdMech "It is the source of the mis-filed geneseed. It is Space Wolf. And we are not sure how many chapters. It could be as many as 25." :blush: Inquisitor :cuss "You know it really sucks to be you, being the bearer of bad news and all." http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/veritas117/emot-purge1.gif As a note to all, I do not, in any way, even suggest you consider such a scenario. It is wrong on so many levels, I do not even know where to start. If you decide to use it to explain something very strange (or even moderate and justifiable) about your DIY chapter, I do not take responsibility for the derision and scorn that may and in all likelihood will be heaped upon you. In fact, I will probably join the fun. I would give you some better suggestions but I am saving my best ones to explain why my DIY Dark Angel successor went vanilla (with some fluff bits from other chapters). Hopefully, it will keep the Inquisition and the Unforgiven from investigating too closely. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178922-i-find-space-wolves-alluring/#findComment-2118585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Dammit Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 Anyway no it would not really be possible to have a successor from the past just lost in time or the future and there can't really be any made in secret either. Space Wolves gene-seed just doesn't work away from Fenris, the Wolf Brothers went insane and had to be destroyed because of the instability of the gene-seed. I suppose the genetic material of the people of Fenris is the only thing that can react properly to the volatile Canis Helix and produce proper recruits that aren't raving lunatics. There where terran born space wolves before they found Russ and Fenris, so the genseed does work away from Fenris. It just works better on Fenris Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178922-i-find-space-wolves-alluring/#findComment-2118780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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