Space Wolf Banner in new codex

[Lumdin]

I dont remember the exact wording for the banner. But it was pointed out to me by a GW manager.

 

It is a upgrade for a grey hunter , it allows once per game a unit with the banner to reroll all 1's during an assault phase.

 

(again not sure of the wording so if anyone can try to look up and confirm would be amazing)

 

But from what the GW guy said it would mean rerolling all to hit, to wound and all save rolls.

 

I was kinda amazed. But again only had 30 minutes to look at the codex. So if anyone can either clarify or correct me, would be great.

 

Thanks

[Wolf Guard Dan]

sounds about right. it is a great item and its cost is low

[WG Vrox]

Yep, thats the way I remember it as well, it's pretty much a must have for any assult oriented GH pack. Pretty sure the cost was 10 points.

 

Add in rending for a motw model and pick a good HQs benefit such as Ragnar's additional dice and it would be a nice 1 - 2 punch.

 

WG Vrox.

[Wolf Guard Dan]

thats true, I was looking at the codex today at my GW. You reroll the ones of anyone else in the unit too. That would be sick if you had ragnar in there for extra attacks and reroll any ones. Its basically fail and armor save only on a roll of a two. You would also reroll ragnars ability +d3 attacks cuz it takes part in the assault phase. very cool item for low cost. I would put it in any unit I planned on getting in close quarters with.

[Schertenleib]

That is the way it works. One of our Brethren used it at the GW store in Orland Park yesterday. It allowed his squad to eat a Tau Command Squad IIRC.

[Greyshift]

Plus the mini of a GH with banner is still one of the nicest of our older ones still available on the GW site. Handy for those of us with no GS skills to speak of

[WG Vrox]

The the model you talking about is a nice one, but he holding the banner with a PF. So if your not inclined to use a PF remember the new sprue comes with a very nice new spiffy banner.

 

WG Vrox.

[Yeti]

One of our Brethren used it at the GW store in Orland Park yesterday. It allowed his squad to eat a Tau Command Squad IIRC.

 

Like that's an accomplishment ... :P :(

 

Does sound like a very cool upgrade and if it's that cheap ... basically a must have for any assaulty squad.

 

If it works for the whole turn ... could be cool on plasma packs ... no more overheats.

[Hfran Morkai]

But remember it's only 1's you get to re-roll, how often do you roll a 1? Is it enough to consider the ten point upgrade? I seem to roll very few ones and therefore I don't think I will be using this piece of wargear, unless my luck changes very drastically, I mean, it is cheap but that ten points could be used elsewhere for me.

[Vlk]

Well, with the 3+ armour save, it can halve the casualties from one round of combat. That's good enough for me.

[Grey Mage]

But remember it's only 1's you get to re-roll, how often do you roll a 1? Is it enough to consider the ten point upgrade? I seem to roll very few ones and therefore I don't think I will be using this piece of wargear, unless my luck changes very drastically, I mean, it is cheap but that ten points could be used elsewhere for me.

*Shrugs* it depends... but sometimes you just absolutely positively gotta get it done.

 

And then its priceless, cause gods only know you cant afford to fluff a single attack.

[Hfran Morkai]

But remember it's only 1's you get to re-roll, how often do you roll a 1? Is it enough to consider the ten point upgrade? I seem to roll very few ones and therefore I don't think I will be using this piece of wargear, unless my luck changes very drastically, I mean, it is cheap but that ten points could be used elsewhere for me.

*Shrugs* it depends... but sometimes you just absolutely positively gotta get it done.

 

And then its priceless, cause gods only know you cant afford to fluff a single attack.

 

For everything else there's Banner.

 

Bad bad joke.

 

I can understand it will certainly have it's uses but statistically only one in six attacks will be affected. So say a ten man Grey hunter squad attacks. That's five hypothetical ones which would be rerolled. Obviously the number can be much higher or lower and there's still the other rolls.

 

I'm not too sure. I think I will experiment with it.

[WG Vrox]

But remember it's only 1's you get to re-roll, how often do you roll a 1? Is it enough to consider the ten point upgrade? I seem to roll very few ones and therefore I don't think I will be using this piece of wargear, unless my luck changes very drastically, I mean, it is cheap but that ten points could be used elsewhere for me.

 

Ahhh,, so it is you who is stealing my average dice roll. Me on the other hand I am plagued by 1s. If I am rolling 4 dice and hitting on 2+, well I will roll two 1s for sure. I play the game as if I am going to roll below average and I most always don't disappoint meself.

 

WG Vrox.

[Ominous Anonymous]

Maybe not in every single squad, but in a Grey Hunter squad in, say, a Land Raider with a Wolf Guard and Ragnar? Hell, Ragnar alone would justify it. Start assault phase, declare that you are using the banner. Charge with Ragnar + GH squad as a unit and if you roll a 1 for determining the extra attacks you get to reroll. Hell, the way it's worded you could probably reroll Preferred Enemy hits that missed on the reroll from a Wolf Priest. Now you have a lot of extra attacks, which inevitably increases the number of times a 1 will be rolled. Then factor in wounds and finally armor saves. Yes, it would only be for a single Assault Phase, but I can't think of much that would survive it outside of bad rolls.

[Yeti]

Hell, the way it's worded you could probably reroll Preferred Enemy hits that missed on the reroll from a Wolf Priest.

 

That's a big nope ... p2 in the BRB, you can't re-roll dice more than once. You could still re-roll the hits and armor saves, but not the re-rolled hits for preferred enemy.

[Ominous Anonymous]

That's a big nope ... p2 in the BRB, you can't re-roll dice more than once. You could still re-roll the hits and armor saves, but not the re-rolled hits for preferred enemy.

 

Fair enough, but I had forgot to mention the rerolled armor saves. 1's are responsible for 50% of all marine deaths y'know. :lol:

[ChapniK]

You even re-roll for difficult terrain if you rolled a 1 . There is really no reason whu you would not take the banner unless you need the points somewhere else.