AdeptusDavidus Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 The conversion looks good! A bit more putty work round the face and you'll have a model to be proud of. Far as I know, the only Thunderwolf model will be the above mentioned Canis Wolfborn. I heard that the model could be converted to a standard Thunderwolf model. Too bad, because the wolf model looks terrible (IMHO of course) It looks to puggy. I envision those things looking really lanky, and mean as all hell. A dynamic pose wouldn't hurt either. I do really like the wolf claws that Canis is armed with though. 2 cents deposited! Really? Canis will be the only Thunderwolf model? That's ... really awful. Aside from opinions on the quality of the sculpt (I'm not a fan, but that's a very subjective thing), it's a $40 model! Surely, surely there will be some proper thunderwolf cavalry models in a second wave of SW releases. Surely. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179199-thunder-wolf-conversion/page/2/#findComment-2121556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromedog Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 Or that on a DIFFERENT PLANET some species might look a bit DIFFERENT ^ This. They are "Fenrisian wolves" not "terran" wolves. Are they ever mentioned to be descended from terran bloodstock? Could they not simply be one of the planet Fenris' native carnivores? Maybe the first colonists on Fenris had never seen a wolf, and just combined half-remembered myths with mauled survivor stories to get the name. I like the "thundercats" idea, though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179199-thunder-wolf-conversion/page/2/#findComment-2121599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castlerook Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 all that means is that there are two people who seem incapable of telling the difference between a lion and a wolf. And it seems someone is incapable of imagining a galaxy where animals might evolve a similar shape but not the same details. And if your still not convinced, canines and felines share a common ancestor, a small weasel like creature belonging to the family Miacoidea, its just a few genetic mis-steps and viola! two different families of apex predators. Rewind it all back to that point and I guarentee the end results will always be different. Leave the Terran preconceptions at the door and enjoy a good conversion, speaking of which, good conversion! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179199-thunder-wolf-conversion/page/2/#findComment-2121613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heru Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Or that on a DIFFERENT PLANET some species might look a bit DIFFERENT ^ This. They are "Fenrisian wolves" not "terran" wolves. Are they ever mentioned to be descended from terran bloodstock? Could they not simply be one of the planet Fenris' native carnivores? Maybe the first colonists on Fenris had never seen a wolf, and just combined half-remembered myths with mauled survivor stories to get the name. And yet the Space Wolves wear actual Terran wolf shaped symbols and furs... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179199-thunder-wolf-conversion/page/2/#findComment-2121618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castlerook Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Inspired by the Terran legends of wolves, after all, you can get into the good books of the Emperor if you use a symbol from his homeworld. If a chapter calls itself a Dragon does it actually mean there are dragons on their world? Chapter symbols work in the exact same way as heraldry, the symbols don't represent actual animals, but rather ideals of the chapter, for example, the Minotaurs don't have minotaurs on their world, so why have the symbol? Because its a symbol of strength and valour, the same way a dog or wolves head is a symbol of courage, loyalty and vigilance. You can ask the same question about any of the other Legions and their symbols, Why did the Luna Wolves have a wolf symbol as their icon? After all they came from a heavily mined out world, chances are any indigenous life was wiped out millenia before Horus arrived. Same for Raven Guard, why do they have a Raven for their symbol as they originated on a Forge World. Alpha Legion use the hydra as their symbol because it reflects their method of attack, after all theres no mention of their homeworld, let alone any mention of any lifeforms native to there, mythical or otherwise. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179199-thunder-wolf-conversion/page/2/#findComment-2121634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Sha'son Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 so...what is the difference between a fenrisian wolf and a thunder wolf? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179199-thunder-wolf-conversion/page/2/#findComment-2121646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heru Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Inspired by the Terran legends of wolves, after all, you can get into the good books of the Emperor if you use a symbol from his homeworld. If a chapter calls itself a Dragon does it actually mean there are dragons on their world? Chapter symbols work in the exact same way as heraldry, the symbols don't represent actual animals, but rather ideals of the chapter, for example, the Minotaurs don't have minotaurs on their world, so why have the symbol? Because its a symbol of strength and valour, the same way a dog or wolves head is a symbol of courage, loyalty and vigilance. You can ask the same question about any of the other Legions and their symbols, Why did the Luna Wolves have a wolf symbol as their icon? After all they came from a heavily mined out world, chances are any indigenous life was wiped out millenia before Horus arrived. Same for Raven Guard, why do they have a Raven for their symbol as they originated on a Forge World. Alpha Legion use the hydra as their symbol because it reflects their method of attack, after all theres no mention of their homeworld, let alone any mention of any lifeforms native to there, mythical or otherwise. You missed the point about the pelts they wear being wolf shaped. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179199-thunder-wolf-conversion/page/2/#findComment-2121648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OXIDE Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 I like the concept of using this model and I bet this isn't the last one we see.Elongate the snout a bit ,mabey cut and shut the original nose ,add fur to the legs and fix up the marines feet and you'll have a cool unit in the making.cheers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179199-thunder-wolf-conversion/page/2/#findComment-2121740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 There are several different varieties of 'wolf' mentioned in the codex. The smaller varieties, namely the Fenrisian wolf, look like Terran wolves. The big thunder wolves, from the illustration in the codex, look more like really furry lions the size of horses than actual wolves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179199-thunder-wolf-conversion/page/2/#findComment-2121743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenmichi Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 all that means is that there are two people who seem incapable of telling the difference between a lion and a wolf. Obvious troll is obvious. I like your conversion Omen, I'm not sure if I'll field any Thunderwolves in my Wolf army but if I do I'll definitely look towards your conversion for inspiration. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179199-thunder-wolf-conversion/page/2/#findComment-2121767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Angelus Sanctus Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Although i can understand the concept of giving feedback on aiding the OP to create a more authentic look about the model, I have noticed that the thread has desceneded into a debate of wolf vs lion. The OP has shown an abundance of creativity with what they have done, and I'm sure they appreciate the constructive ideas as to improving on what they have made. However, i do ask any feedback that is given is in a constructive manner. As this it the PCA, we do hope that many of the posts link back to the actual physical aspect of the hobby and to further improve our own skills. Any further posts that seem to "de-rail" the main subject, or are not constructive critique for the OP to take on board may lead to formal warnings. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179199-thunder-wolf-conversion/page/2/#findComment-2121903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier Targhost Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Yeah.. hehe.. afterall they are som bad a** space beast on a distant planet... named fenrisian-wolf.. so who says that they have to look like the ones in our time its afterall 30k-40k years in the future too... :S hehe.. Very nice done though! And im not that fond of Canis either so... but i gott insipired to do some now too, though ill mix em upp like the ones honord Lord Mjolnir made ;) but mounting them in a good way is a bugger... as id like them too look a bitt more feral when riding the beast of fenris... and why havent the wolfs of Russ goten any sweet chainaxes? would be awesome to have... Well Cheers on a niced idea there mate :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179199-thunder-wolf-conversion/page/2/#findComment-2121914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omen-maul Posted September 23, 2009 Author Share Posted September 23, 2009 Well i never intended to start a debate over the evolution of the wolf species on Fenris... anyway Ive done a little more work on the Lion mane gave it a trim to hopefully help with reducing the Lion appearance still a long way from the finished product... http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq15/Omen_Maul/Thunderwolfcontinued.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179199-thunder-wolf-conversion/page/2/#findComment-2122065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Damned Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 I really like the conversion you've got going, I'm looking forward to how a whole unit of these guys will look. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179199-thunder-wolf-conversion/page/2/#findComment-2122394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistinthunder Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 what size base? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179199-thunder-wolf-conversion/page/2/#findComment-2122427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keercrevlis Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 Great conversion! Have an Ale on me! Just wondering where you got the lions from? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179199-thunder-wolf-conversion/page/2/#findComment-2123161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messanger of Death Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 The face looks fine to me...reminds me of the picture from the Horus Heresy novel. The only bits I dislike are the shoulder armor and that it looks like your using the High Elf legs. Maybe remove the armor and cover it with fur and leather straps and if your up to it cut up some marine legs and position them to look like he is riding the wolf. Cheers, Messanger Edit- you could base the legs of biker legs. Also with the whole it looks like a lion. Once you paint it up and add snow to the base it will look alot more like a Thunder Wolf and be easier for people to know what they are looking at. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179199-thunder-wolf-conversion/page/2/#findComment-2123253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellios Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 My issue would be the elf armour but I can't say how it will looke when painted but at the moment it looks elvish (the armour), the wolf looks good IMO. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179199-thunder-wolf-conversion/page/2/#findComment-2123265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobu Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 Very good conversion ! Maybe add fur on the whole body of the wolf though, except on the face ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179199-thunder-wolf-conversion/page/2/#findComment-2123309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 Hey nice conversion! Could you say me, how high your lion is? It seems a good sieze. ~ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179199-thunder-wolf-conversion/page/2/#findComment-2123395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eberious Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 Very nice, totaly gonna have to steal this idea. I seen these before (the actual lion model that is) and never thought of a little green stuff and hey-presto, giant wolves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179199-thunder-wolf-conversion/page/2/#findComment-2123715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 Well I think that they are great and a much cheaper way of making a unit. Nice work mate. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179199-thunder-wolf-conversion/page/2/#findComment-2123753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natanael Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Looking good. I was thinking of doing the same thing. Cheaper and better-looking than canis. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179199-thunder-wolf-conversion/page/2/#findComment-2124549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossco Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Well I think that they are great and a much cheaper way of making a unit. Nice work mate. :P I wouldn't worry too much what other folks say, if Doghouse likes it you're cooking on gas ! Oh I like 'em too ! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179199-thunder-wolf-conversion/page/2/#findComment-2124600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrewsgod Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Where did you get the lions/wolves from? i can never find them on bitz sites i know of. cheers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179199-thunder-wolf-conversion/page/2/#findComment-2124708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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