Wolf Lord Durgann Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 Not sure how many of you have seen Scibor's creation of 13th company. But I find it amazing! On his website he has a tutorial showing how to make the leg plates and i am sure I can figure out the rest. I will be post pictures on my Lost Company post hopefully this next weekend if I can find the modeling putty to do it. if you have not seen his work here is a link... Scibor's 13th Company here is a link to the leg plate tutorial... Leg Plate Tutorial Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179203-working-on-sciboring-my-tda-army/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG Vrox Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 Big undertaking there my wolfbrother, but I am sure it will be worth it. Looking forward to seeing your stuff. WG Vrox Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179203-working-on-sciboring-my-tda-army/#findComment-2120470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Runner Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 I wouldn't mind going in to all that work for a display piece, but definitely not for gaming pieces. As long as they are neatly painted and themed with fluff, then I'm a happy camper. Having said that I'm glad some gamers do, it enriches the hobby and inspires other to raise their standards. Good luck with your lost company Wolf Lord Durgann. Can't wait to see the pics. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179203-working-on-sciboring-my-tda-army/#findComment-2120485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Scotcho Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 Maybe when I get a little (okay a lot) better with green stuff I'll try that. or maybe after a few ales, who knows. But on a serious note, very good luck to you brother, an ale to start you on your way, and I expect pictures during the process and when they are finished. Looking through Scibor's galleries, that does perk up a certain interest I've had in celts and wolves for a while now...... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179203-working-on-sciboring-my-tda-army/#findComment-2120511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harald sternmark Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 good luck with your project! make sure to post progress pics...just dont make the greaves as large a scibors! (a friend had a model from him, i swear the greaves took over the whole model) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179203-working-on-sciboring-my-tda-army/#findComment-2120549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Scotcho Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 Well if you make your marines true scale (which if your gonna be doing all that greenstuff work, you might as well) the greaves won't be such a dominant piece of the mini, as the scale on everything would be stretched to their real world, real human proportions. As to what scale you should use, if you accept that 28 millimeters is the height of an average human, then a marine in full power armor should be roughly 1.5 times that height, or roughly 40 millimeters tall, given what Gdub has said about height comparison between marines and normal humans. Keep in mind this is without armor, so depending on how bulky, I would say a marine could be justifiably 43-45 mm tall, with a terminator more like 50-52, and a dreadnought twice that even. Just goes to show you how messed up the scale of stuff in 40k is. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179203-working-on-sciboring-my-tda-army/#findComment-2120590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Lord Durgann Posted September 22, 2009 Author Share Posted September 22, 2009 Thanks for the pointers El Scotcho. I will be trying my best to make them True Scale. I've looked at several of the tutorials on the B&C and have come to the conclusion that it will take me a few weeks of work before I get the scale right and about 2-3 months of sculpting to get the models looking any kind of decent. But I will take photos. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179203-working-on-sciboring-my-tda-army/#findComment-2120623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 Yes I agree keep us updated Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179203-working-on-sciboring-my-tda-army/#findComment-2120635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Scotcho Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 I too am going to try truescaling my Wolves, but I don't know about the leg plates. Plasticard I can do, but I'm not so great with greenstuff, yet. Maybe I'll try it and see how it comes out, you never know. And the way he does it seems so easy. There is only one problem with truescaling, and that is this "true line of sight" that GDub came up with in 5th edition. Truescaling your marines necessarily makes them larger, and therefore easier to shoot at and harder to hide behind terrain. For me, because I only play casual games, it doesn't matter, but for those of you who play tournaments it will. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179203-working-on-sciboring-my-tda-army/#findComment-2121100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Lord Durgann Posted September 22, 2009 Author Share Posted September 22, 2009 There is only one problem with truescaling, and that is this "true line of sight" that GDub came up with in 5th edition. Truescaling your marines necessarily makes them larger, and therefore easier to shoot at and harder to hide behind terrain. For me, because I only play casual games, it doesn't matter, but for those of you who play tournaments it will. Since when to Space Wolves care about not being seen? I'll be running most of my army in Land Raiders.. so the models wont really be seen until their in your face sharing their knowledge about battle in a rather brutal fashion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179203-working-on-sciboring-my-tda-army/#findComment-2121384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Scotcho Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 Well you can never really be sure about something like that unless you ask. Now the real question, are you up to truescaling your land raiders? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179203-working-on-sciboring-my-tda-army/#findComment-2121457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdeptusDavidus Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 If you're still looking at "truescaling" methods, I would recommend one of the various snip-n-shim methods, like Elusive71's or the "Cry Wolf pattern", or like Dan the Daemon's Chaos in the WIP section of this board. They might not be as "thick"-looking as the terminator-legs methods, but they lend themselves very well to dynamic posing. On top of that, it's really fairly straightforward, and would help with the greaves not seeming overlarge. (In my opinion, the terminator-legs truescales look a bit clunky to begin with, and adding greaves over that would look pretty cartoony to my eyes. In contrast, the methods using normal marine components with plasticard spacers tend to look dynamic, albeit a bit slim, so the added greaves would serve to counterbalance the sleekness of the extended legs.) And as far as truescaling vehicles goes, I think it's pretty unnecessary. Rhinos may look a little small, but compare the size of a modern IFV to a modern infantryman. They're cramped inside, but then, they're not supposed to be combat limousines. :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179203-working-on-sciboring-my-tda-army/#findComment-2121482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Lord Durgann Posted September 23, 2009 Author Share Posted September 23, 2009 don't think I'll be true scaling the LRs. They would hardly fit on the game board.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179203-working-on-sciboring-my-tda-army/#findComment-2121610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdeptusDavidus Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Land Raiders, conveniently, are truescaled right out of the box. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179203-working-on-sciboring-my-tda-army/#findComment-2121640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 don't think I'll be true scaling the LRs. They would hardly fit on the game board.. You could always convert them a little and turn them into Fenrisian Razorbacks.... assault ramp not included, some restrictions apply. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179203-working-on-sciboring-my-tda-army/#findComment-2121795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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