ShinyRhino Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Very small nitpicky question. Say I have a Chapter Master in a Rhino, along with his Honour Guard. In front of them is a target (assume it's an Ork Mob). The Chapter master hasn't moved, so he plans to drop his Orbital Bombardment, and two of the Honour Guard shoot at the target from the fire points. The question is, does the usage of the Master's OB require the use of a fire point, even though it's an Ordnance Barrage which does not require LOS? Or can he just call it down without using the firepoint, and allow his men to fire frmo them instead? I can't think of any other attack made in the Shooting phase that would allow such a situation. Also, only slightly related...if an IG Veteran Squad is buttoned up in a Chimera, can the two who have been replaced by a mortar squad fire from one of the five firepoints? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 For the first question, as long as the rhino didn't move, the Chapter Master should be able to call down the Barrage and not need a fire point to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty the Pyro Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Any shooting attack by a model in a transport will need a fireing piont. Orbital barrage is a shooting attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Eight Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 yes you do not need a LOS for OB as it is an indirect barrage with full 2d6 scatter and as for youre 2 honour guard they can shoot from the top of the rhino but no more than 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty the Pyro Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 yes you do not need a LOS for OB as it is an indirect barrage with full 2d6 scatter and as for youre 2 honour guard they can shoot from the top of the rhino but no more than 2 No. The trasnport rules say any (embarked) models that make a shooting attack need to use a fireing port, not any shooting attack that requires LOS. Orbital Barrage says it is a shooting attack. If the chapter master uses OB than only 1 of the honor guard can can shoot from the rhino. Pg 66 BRB for fireing points pg 52 C:SM for Orbital Bombardment. Oh and yes a heavy weapons team is one model, it may use a fireing point just like any other model may. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinyRhino Posted September 23, 2009 Author Share Posted September 23, 2009 Oh and yes a heavy weapons team is one model, it may use a fireing point just like any other model may. Interesting. So in theory, you could load up a trio of HWTs in a single Chimera and essentially turn it into a bunker for them with no major detriments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty the Pyro Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Oh and yes a heavy weapons team is one model, it may use a fireing point just like any other model may. Interesting. So in theory, you could load up a trio of HWTs in a single Chimera and essentially turn it into a bunker for them with no major detriments. inso much as 12/10/10 could be considered a bunker sure. Just remember if the chimera moves the unit inside has moved, and vehicles have much less generous cover rules, and vehicle explodes results hurts like a sonofagun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator-Chaplain Ezra Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 Plus the Chimera would be open-topped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty the Pyro Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 Plus the Chimera would be open-topped. no thats old rules, doesnt work like that in 5th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellios Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 Oh and yes a heavy weapons team is one model, it may use a fireing point just like any other model may. Interesting. So in theory, you could load up a trio of HWTs in a single Chimera and essentially turn it into a bunker for them with no major detriments. yeh know people who do that but with veterans with plasmas and a auto-cannon on the chimera so at rapid-fire range that is 8 S7 shots 6 of which are AP2 and if your really lucky you get a HB or HF shooting you as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator-Chaplain Ezra Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 Plus the Chimera would be open-topped. no thats old rules, doesnt work like that in 5th I stand corrected. :P Thank you. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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