Not REALLY sure if this is the place....

[Leethal]

Yes. I have decided to go into the past. Beyond mere Legion names that the Primarchs have chosen.

 

To the point where I wish to find the old paintjobs and old Legion names before the Primarchs got stumbled upon by the Emperor.

 

The Ones I know of so far are the following...

 

World Eaters - Formerly Known As Warhounds In White with Blue Trim

Death Guard- Formerly Known As Dusk Raidersp/b] In ...Colors I am too lazy to re-read Flight of E. again to find.

 

...

 

Any additions would be wonderful :)

[Starblayde]

We know that the Emperor's Children had a different name originally, too, but thanks to Fulgrim's stirring speech after their chapter was nearly wiped out, the Emperor was so moved that he let them use the Imperial aquilla and re-named them as the Emperor's Children. Whether they were coloured Imperial purple or not originally, I don't know.

 

The Thousand Sons were originally red with white trim, also, most likely because of Magnus the Red.

[Tyear]

Word Beares as far as I know where a greenish grey color before they turned to the far more awesome Red and Silver.

[Cyrox]

There was a couple more too

 

The White Scars and Space Wolves were renamed after their Primarchs were discovered, to honour the traits of the locals and Primarchs etc. Plus you can assume the Salamanders had a different name before they discovered their Primarch on a world with giant Salamanders! :)

 

Some more info here:

 

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...=120875&hl=

[Vassakov]

The Dusk Raiders were a sort of dull, off yellow colour (think sandstone) with a crimson right arm - "The bloody right hand of the Emperor" (Source -FotE)

 

Space Wolves were renamed, as were the Raven Guard who were, like the Death Guard named for the Primarchs forces on their "home" planet. Original names are presently unknown.

[jeffersonian000]

The original Legions were numbered 1 thru 20, i.e., 1st Legion, 2nd Legion ... 20th Legion. As each Primarch was found and united with his corresponding legion, those legions were renamed to the names we all know today. This background is based on two points: all the Legions are numbered, and all gained specific names after their Primarch was found.

 

SJ

[Cyrox]

Except that the Death Guard were called the Dusk Raiders, so it not unreasonable to assume some of the others had nicknames

[Midgard]

I recall reading that Dark Angels were known as "The First" prior to discovering the Lion, although I can't recall where I saw it. Presumably it was due to them being the I Legion.

[Starblayde]

I recall reading that Dark Angels were known as "The First" prior to discovering the Lion, although I can't recall where I saw it. Presumably it was due to them being the I Legion.

Very much so, and that's one of the reasons the Lion thought he should have been made Warmaster.

[Skirax]

The Dark Angels were the 1st Legion, black with sliver trim.

[Firenze]

Er, no trim. It was black along with the armour.

[Leethal]

Dark Angels were Black with White/Red Heraldry. The First Legion, originally the Emperor's guards till the Custodes came about, or whatever. GW has crappy fluff backup.

 

 

Thanks for...what vague information I got brothers -_-

 

Thought there were like...2 or 3 others that were renamed that were known to someone. Hmm. I will continue spleunking.

[DuskRaider]

Dusk Raiders were actually an off-white (marble, much like what Death Guard's main color was), with red shoulder pad trim and a red right hand, as that's what they were known as... "The Emperor's Red Right Hand". Thanks, Nick Cave. lol

[Phoebus]

I'm interested in reading the Space Wolf/Thousand Son novels because up until now we've seen differences and conflict between the Astartes born on Terra and those born on the Primarchs' homeworlds: Death Guard, Dark Angels, etc. I would imagine that the gulf between the Terrans and the men of Fenris--especially given the effects of the Canis Helix--would be severe.

 

Very much so, and that's one of the reasons the Lion thought he should have been made Warmaster.

Warning, minor spoiler below:

 

 

 

I recall that it was rather the opposite. Conversing with Perturabo, Lion El'Jonson remarks that, "... but for luck," he could have been Warmaster. He's specifically referring to the fact that Horus was found first--that whichever Primarch had been found first would likely have attained the title in question.

[ArcticFox]

GW has crappy fluff backup.

 

I think the main problem is that the fluff has evolved as much as the game over the years, and a lot of what we consider to be historical info is really just the way the fluff was when the game first came out. For example, The Dark Angels are portrayed as being in black armor in all the old Rogue Trader-era material, with the dark green coming along much later. GW simply incorporated that into a semi-canonical idea that you have the pre-heresy black colors (or the Ravenwing Company.)

 

The fluff has been written a little at a time by dozens of different sources, some canon, some not... To the point where if a brief, cursory search hasn't turned up the info you want, then just let your imagination take it. GW deliberately leaves things vague so that players and hobbyists are free to fill in the gaps for their own force without concerning themselves with breaking canon. Personally, I like that. If I want to build a pre-Heresy World Eaters force I know to use white and blue, but the exact pattern is up to me. If I don't want to do that, I could even create my own pre-heresy legion since the fluff refers to a couple of legions whose records are lost/destroyed. This is a deliberate effort by GW to encourage creativity.

 

But yes, if you're really into the fluff and like to try and stick to "official" canon, it can be maddening.

[GrantDaKiller]

The World Eaters were called War Hounds, although their legion colours were the same as they were after Angron was found.

[Grim Dog Studios]

I'm interested in reading the Space Wolf/Thousand Son novels because up until now we've seen differences and conflict between the Astartes born on Terra and those born on the Primarchs' homeworlds: Death Guard, Dark Angels, etc. I would imagine that the gulf between the Terrans and the men of Fenris--especially given the effects of the Canis Helix--would be severe.

 

In collected visions somewhere it said that the wolves from fenris got on really well with the terrans.

Also, the terran wolves would have the canis helix aswell as they were all created from the same primarchs geneseed.

 

EDIT: Sorry for threadomancy totally didnt realise :P