Hfran Morkai Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 Well as Phil Kelly will be answering questions on our codex on Sunday I thought we should compile a list of questions that we want clarifying by the guy who wrote the dex. So go ahead, ask and I'll do my best! I think he might kill me for this! So I'll get him to sign my copy before I ask him! So far: Do Rune Staff nullification bonuses stack? How wide is the line for Jaws of the Wulfen? Upcoming models? (Doubt he will tell us but the sneak peak might throw something up) TDA Wolf Lord with Frost Blade? Deliberate or oversight? Wolf Guard with Sky Claw packs? Combination of Psychic Powers. Can you have two RP, one with power a and b, the other with power a and c. TWC and the lack of Thunderwolf mount wargear (Rending Thunderhammers) ATSKNF and Fenrisian Wolves S and T from TW. Do you have a S9 or 10 Thunderhammer with one, and are you subject to ID from S8 or S10? Lukas' Cloak. Does it *really* have no effect until the rest of the Squad bar Lukas is dead? Bjorn and the WTT. Why? He has a 5+ Invulnerable anyway. So any Pyschic Shooting attack he might be eligable to take is already covered by that Does an attached Wolf Guard to a 9 man Hunter pack allow for a second special weapon? Eye of Terror codex in tourney play? The Wolf standard: Does the reroll any 1s in close combat apply to any special/independent characters that have joined the unit? or just the unit itself? The Wolf standard: Does the reroll any 1s in close combat apply to the vehicle damage result table? can a WG be attached to a LF pack that already has a LF packleader? in a BC pack with Lukas can you have a WG and a independent character attached? can a independent character be attached to the FA wolf pack (non marine unit)? Does a Wolf Scout Pack still get to operate Behind Enemy Lines when a Wolf Guard is attached as pack leader? The assumption is yes, but it is not explicitly stated, which would be nice to have when playing against certain opponents. Was it intended for a model with Saga of the Hunter to be able to operate with Wolf Scouts Behind Enemy Lines? If so, that too was not clearly expressed, so for now if you attach him to a Scout unit they have to forfiet BEL, but can still Outflank as normal. Is this how it was "supposed" to be. It you attach a Wolf Guard Pack Leader to a troops unit (say Grey Hunters) does he count as a scoring unit for holding objectives if the rest of the troop squad he is attached to is killed during the game? Basically is he an independent character or is he a squad upgrade? Was it intended for wolf scouts to loose access to shotguns or just an omission? would like to know why the omission of the 13th company, his reasons for that and what the future holds for them. Does Logan Grimnar's rule that "WG count as Troops" mean: - They are now scoring untis, but remain Elites choices - They are now Troop choices instead of Elites and thus can score A Rune Priest casting Jaws of the World Wolf, does it have to make an I test also? Above two question 'just to be sure' because they are perhaps the most debated questions and they are brought up by every person, who reads the codex first time and/or is a rules lawyer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179491-got-a-codex-clarification-issue/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkangeldentist Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 I have a question for Mr Kelly. What on earth were you thinking! :ph34r: I have a serious one as well. Are rune staffs meant to be able to stack their nullification abilities? How wide should the line be for Jaws of the world wolf? (I know at least one person with a huge 2" wide tape, I do not want to hear "width of your tape measure".) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179491-got-a-codex-clarification-issue/#findComment-2124188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmwulf Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 Not really a clarification but i would really like to know if there is any information on what will be in the next range of sw models and when they will be out. i desperately need a new ragnar and maybe a new bjorn model :ph34r: thunderwolf models would also be great... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179491-got-a-codex-clarification-issue/#findComment-2124190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreadmad Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 What drugs were you on when you came up with JOTW and can i have some :ph34r: on a serious note the termi armoured WL with frost blades problem, the WG in swiftclaws and the whole thunderwolf riders rending thing Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179491-got-a-codex-clarification-issue/#findComment-2124191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 1: Combination of Psychic Powers. Can you have two RP, one with power a and b, the other with power a and c. 2: WL and Frost Blades 3: TWC and the lack of Thunderwolf mount wargear (Rending Thunderhammers) 4: ATSKNF and Fenrisian Wolves 5: S and T from TW. Do you have a S9 or 10 Thunderhammer with one, and are you subject to ID from S8 or S10? 6: Lukas' Cloak. Does it *really* have no effect until the rest of the Squad bar Lukas is dead? 7: Bjorn and the WTN. Why? He has a 5+ Invulnerable anyway. So any Pyschic Shooting attack he might be eligable to take is already covered by that I'm sure there's more. :ph34r: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179491-got-a-codex-clarification-issue/#findComment-2124194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karack Blackstone Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 Is WG not being able to join a Skyclaw unit an oversight or intentional? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179491-got-a-codex-clarification-issue/#findComment-2124196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marek Grimfang Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 Whether a WG attached to 9 GHs counts as having a second special weapon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179491-got-a-codex-clarification-issue/#findComment-2124241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsekov Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 The Wolf standard: Does the reroll any 1s in close combat apply to any special/independent characters that have joined the unit? or just the unit itself? The Wolf standard: Does the reroll any 1s in close combat apply to the vehicle damage result table? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179491-got-a-codex-clarification-issue/#findComment-2124258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Hunter Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 ditto to Marek's question. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179491-got-a-codex-clarification-issue/#findComment-2124260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhorse47 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Will we be allowed to use the Eye of Terror Codex in tourney play? Can we please have the Leman Russ back? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179491-got-a-codex-clarification-issue/#findComment-2124264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DV8 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Wolf Guard Packs - If every member of a Wolf Guard pack is assigned to another squad, does the Wolf Guard Pack technically still exist for Kill Points, or does it count as destroyed, automatically conceding a KP to the enemy? If not, do you have to kill every WGPL in order to get a KP for the squad? DV8 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179491-got-a-codex-clarification-issue/#findComment-2124268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 How wide should the line be for Jaws of the world wolf? (I know at least one person with a huge 2" wide tape, I do not want to hear "width of your tape measure".) A line does not have a width dimension. 7: Bjorn and the WTN. Why? He has a 5+ Invulnerable anyway. So any Pyschic Shooting attack he might be eligable to take is already covered by that Wolf Tail Talisman, not Wolf Tooth Necklace. Bjorn doesn't have a WTN. Well as Phil Kelly will be answering questions on our codex on Sunday I thought we should compile a list of questions that we want clarifying by the guy who wrote the dex. When and where is Phil Kelly going to be answering questions on the codex? I hadn't heard anything about this yet, but it is definitely a good thing. Certainly should take advantage of an opportunity to get questions asked straight fromt he horses mouth Valerian Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179491-got-a-codex-clarification-issue/#findComment-2124284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted September 25, 2009 Author Share Posted September 25, 2009 Phil Kelly will be available for chats about the Space Wolf codex at Games Day, or so we have been told so I thought whilst trying to obtain a signature for my dex I could try and be of help for my brothers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179491-got-a-codex-clarification-issue/#findComment-2124291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunchb0x Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 This might , or might, not help on the JAWS questions... http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/line Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179491-got-a-codex-clarification-issue/#findComment-2124325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerRushmore Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 can a WG be attached to a LF pack that already has a LF packleader? in a BC pack with Lukas can you have a WG and a independent character attached? can a independent character be attached to the FA wolf pack (non marine unit)? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179491-got-a-codex-clarification-issue/#findComment-2124341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I've got two to add to the list. I think we've settled these issues internally to the forum, but might as well ask if you have the chance: 1. Does a Wolf Scout Pack still get to operate Behind Enemy Lines when a Wolf Guard is attached as pack leader? The assumption is yes, but it is not explicitly stated, which would be nice to have when playing against certain opponents. 2. Was it intended for a model with Saga of the Hunter to be able to operate with Wolf Scouts Behind Enemy Lines? If so, that too was not clearly expressed, so for now if you attach him to a Scout unit they have to forfiet BEL, but can still Outflank as normal. Is this how it was "supposed" to be. If I think of others I will edit and add to this list. Valerian Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179491-got-a-codex-clarification-issue/#findComment-2124344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerRushmore Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Wolf Guard Packs - If every member of a Wolf Guard pack is assigned to another squad, does the Wolf Guard Pack technically still exist for Kill Points, or does it count as destroyed, automatically conceding a KP to the enemy? If not, do you have to kill every WGPL in order to get a KP for the squad? DV8 If I am correct on this. WGPL are Sergents for the pack they are with. So you have to wipe the entire squad to get the KP for the squad and the WGPL does not count as an elite in the new codex, to the best of my knowledge. I could be wrong. I have only played one game out of the new dex that I barrowed from the store's preorder copy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179491-got-a-codex-clarification-issue/#findComment-2124345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt_Tiberius Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 It you attach a Wolf Guard Pack Leader to a troops unit (say Grey Hunters) does he count as a scoring unit for holding objectives if the rest of the troop squad he is attached to is killed during the game? Basically is he an independent character or is he a squad upgrade? -T. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179491-got-a-codex-clarification-issue/#findComment-2124349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG Vrox Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Was it intended for wolf scouts to loose access to shotguns or just an omission? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179491-got-a-codex-clarification-issue/#findComment-2124362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 would like to know why the omission of the 13th company, his reasons for that and what the future holds for them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179491-got-a-codex-clarification-issue/#findComment-2124377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunchb0x Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 can a WG be attached to a LF pack that already has a LF packleader? in a BC pack with Lukas can you have a WG and a independent character attached? can a independent character be attached to the FA wolf pack (non marine unit)? To answer your questions....I cant believe I am doing this.... <_< 1. Yes they can. 2. Yes. 3. Yes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179491-got-a-codex-clarification-issue/#findComment-2124386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunchb0x Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I've got two to add to the list. I think we've settled these issues internally to the forum, but might as well ask if you have the chance: 1. Does a Wolf Scout Pack still get to operate Behind Enemy Lines when a Wolf Guard is attached as pack leader? The assumption is yes, but it is not explicitly stated, which would be nice to have when playing against certain opponents. 2. Was it intended for a model with Saga of the Hunter to be able to operate with Wolf Scouts Behind Enemy Lines? If so, that too was not clearly expressed, so for now if you attach him to a Scout unit they have to forfiet BEL, but can still Outflank as normal. Is this how it was "supposed" to be. If I think of others I will edit and add to this list. Valerian 1. Wolf Guard is not an independent character...so why would the scouts loose trier abilities? 2. See Page 48 of rule book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179491-got-a-codex-clarification-issue/#findComment-2124390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ranulf Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Vehicle capacity rules are they really different for us than other chapters. ie Redeemer(?) (Landraider with flamers) normally caries 12 space marines Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179491-got-a-codex-clarification-issue/#findComment-2124406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagrath Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 A lot of these questions are answered with RAW (only 2x weapons in GH squads if 10x actual grey hunters, wolf banner reroll DOES affect attached characters, staff nullifications stack just like psychic hoods do, YES vehicle capacities are different, etc. etc. etc.) here is one: Does the wolf banner re-roll of 1's include rolling a 1 for mark of the wulfen for d6+1 attacks? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179491-got-a-codex-clarification-issue/#findComment-2124412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunchb0x Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 here is one: Does the wolf banner re-roll of 1's include rolling a 1 for mark of the wulfen for d6+1 attacks? The codex only said : " Furthermore he replaces his usual Attacks characteristic with D6=! , rolled immediately prior to when the model makes his attacks. " By that I would say yes he gets a reroll. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179491-got-a-codex-clarification-issue/#findComment-2124416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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