Wolfwing, my pasty behind!

[Decoy]

I just thing Varangians is a bit obscure. One of my hobbies is European history, and I've yet to find any mention in any of my textbooks, oddly enough. Although I'm going to do some deeper research now, obviously.

 

But meh. Logan's Heroes is rather growing on me. My gaming crew have already taken to it with gusto. B) Thanks for the meme, yo.

[Lumdin]

I am liking Grimwing

 

or

Grimstrike

Grimpack

Termpack

Grimcorp

LoganCorp

 

my 2 cents from a new member

[whitewolfmxc]

Guardian Wing

 

Guard = wolf guard that does his job of guarding thier lords

[Wispy]

I just want to say, I do not like seeing Dark Angels terminology used to describe aspects of a Space Wolves force. I get why people want to use 'wing' - it implies all terminators - I'm just too big of a Wolves fanboy to use terminology borrowed from out greatest rivals.

[Hrathnar Flintfang]

The Great Pack

 

honestly it moves away from any DA identification while showing our brothers as what they really are, the greatest hunting pack the galaxy has ever known. Each Wolf in it a savage killing machine moving with the experience and weight of countless battles girded with some of the best equipment and armor the imperium has to offer. No pack will ever be greater than this, no hunt more glorious. Until the wolftime comes these are the best of the best of the best clashing in titanic combat against any foe, and refusing to stop until all have fallen.

[lokeiSHP]

Hmm.... unless I am mistaken, I thought there was an in fluff term for the SW forces commanded directly by the Great Wolf. It's been my opinion that the WG as troops in this case are drwan from that force instead of the other companies (essentially the Great Wolf's Company).

[Zemox]

Hirdwing

 

-Hird=Viking king's handpicked bodyguard.

 

-The king would reward his hird with the best weapons (THs, SSs and so forth) the best armor (TDA anyone ) and gold, aswell as paying them with food.

[AdeptusDavidus]

Thegnwing/Thanewing?

 

I mean, I'm still sticking to Logan's Heroes. Just trying to contribute. :unsure:

[Hrathnar Flintfang]

Again I think we need to drop the whole 'wing' thing outright. Wolves don't have wings.... at least not outside of the second season of Transformers Beast Wars.

[Decoy]

Aye, the "Wing" is both silly and unnecessary. It's a relic of a type of army past it's prime. The Logan's Heroes list is an improvement and an evolution, and I think it needs a name appropriate to it's prodigious level of transcendent badassery.

[Zemox]

Lets call it a "Great Company" army then.

[Brother Amarel]

I still don't get this whole 'anti-wing' thing. The 'wing' reference in Deathwing and Ravenwing isn't to do with Angel's having wings, it's a military term for a section of the force. There are also a couple of phrases with military significance to do with wings that involve experience and airborne assault - both of which apply to DPing TDA Marines.

[Brother Captain Kezef]

I'm calling mine the Einherjar

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einherjar

 

Fitting I think

[Night Runner]

Aye, the "Wing" is both silly and unnecessary. It's a relic of a type of army past it's prime. The Logan's Heroes list is an improvement and an evolution, and I think it needs a name appropriate to it's prodigious level of transcendent badassery.

 

If "Logan's Heroes" at least transcended ridiculous , I'd say got for it; but falls very short of the mark. The name is not an evolution just a rip-off from a corny fifties (edit- apparently it was the sixties; it's still corny) sitcom. You say you love the Wolves so much, but find no hesitation to exposing them to ridicule? What's next Wolfguard Schultz! I'd rather go with Wolfwing, even though I share your opinions on it. At least the Sons of Russ are not dragged through the gutter for it.

[Warhorse47]

The Lord's Fangs?

[El Scotcho]

Sad thing is, I was actually thinking about naming one of my Wolf Guards Schultz, before I even found this thread.

 

I like Logan's Heroes, its easy to remember and describes the army rather well IMHO.

 

They are a bunch of heroes, of the Imperium of Man, led by the Chapter Master, Logan Grimnar.

 

And what've you got against my favorite cheesy sixties sitcom?

[Greyhunter77]

I don't think anyone here really has anything against using wing, but we're the Sons of Russ so why should we copy anyone else, especially Lion El'Johnsons mob (One of the new young players at my group thought his name was Lionel Johnson lmao)

 

Logans Heroes appears to have found great appeal and I can see why. It does exactly what it says on the tin. The first thing that came to mind when i heard it was the Clint Eastwood film Kellys Heroes which could certainly have been the Wolves.

 

Also while reseraching Nordic history for my own company I came across the term Aesir which was the Gods.

 

Alternativley Gungnir which was Odins spear.

[Night Runner]

I think you're missing the point here lads. The name has to reflect the fear we strike in the hearts of our enemies when we fall from the heavens. Therefore i vote we name them

 

"oh shi-"

 

Now that's more like it!

 

Edit - This is what I'm talking about: Awe-Inspiring!!!!!!, not a name reminiscent of a sixties comedy (which some consider corny without having anything against the show).

[Pavement Artist]

Thank you

[NovaScotius]

I think the issue with using the more obscure Norse references is that people will not know what you're talking about if you roll up with your Wolf TDA army and call it something most people can't pronounce, let alone spell.

 

We probably need to embrace the K.I.S.S. principle here (Keep it simple, stupid), just so we can heave a readily identifiable army. This means it needs to have something in the name that is tied to the well-known Space Wolves background or chapter name, perhaps something related to locations (Fenris, The Fang etc.), a name (Logan Grimnar, Leman Russ etc.), or maybe tie in something like a weapon (Spear, Sword, Axe etc.).

 

I think the issue that people have with the 'wing' aspect of the name is that people feel as though it's just a copy of the Deathwing's name from the Dark Angels - And to be fair... it really is. But, the 'wing' moniker has been applied to many armies that are made up to 2+ armour save infantry (Ork Deffwing, Lysanderwing, and even the now redundant Chaos Terminator armies - Lustwing, Dustwing, Plaguewing & Bloodwing). The reason for adding the 'wing' part to the name is because Deathwing did it first. They are THE iconic all TDA army, which no-one can dispute.

 

I think half the problem is the very fact that the 'wing' part of the name comes from the Dark Angels Deathwing, and we're Space Wolves - We don't like the Dark Angels. If we were Black Templars for example, and could field an all TDA army, there would be no problem at all calling it Templarwing (or whatever). The problem that we have is that the rivalry with the Dark Angels may run a bit TOO deep, and by trying to define ourselves through taking a more obscure name, we end up being less identifiable.

 

I'm personally a fan of the original Wolfwing name, and I think that's what it's going to be known as by the greater gaming community. Yes, we borrowed part of the name from the Dark Angels - But as everyone knows, Space Wolves are better than Dark Angels, consider Wolfwing to be the improvement on Deathwing!

 

What I'm trying to get at is that by going for the more obscure names, we alienate people, I don't want to call my Wolf TDA army Mjolnir or some other Norse word only to have to answer the question "What's that?" every time. I'd rather take a simpler name where I can say I play Wolfwing, and people's instant response involves them having to make an involuntary change of underwear!

[Heimdal]

I´m kinda fond of Wolfwing.

 

Its really a slap in the face of our brothers in the venerable Dark Angels-chapter that the crude Space Wolves can field a terminator army that can go up against a Deathwing-army any day. :D

[Brother Captain Kezef]

I think the issue with using the more obscure Norse references is that people will not know what you're talking about if you roll up with your Wolf TDA army and call it something most people can't pronounce, let alone spell.

 

We probably need to embrace the K.I.S.S. principle here (Keep it simple, stupid), just so we can heave a readily identifiable army. This means it needs to have something in the name that is tied to the well-known Space Wolves background or chapter name, perhaps something related to locations (Fenris, The Fang etc.), a name (Logan Grimnar, Leman Russ etc.), or maybe tie in something like a weapon (Spear, Sword, Axe etc.).

 

I think the issue that people have with the 'wing' aspect of the name is that people feel as though it's just a copy of the Deathwing's name from the Dark Angels - And to be fair... it really is. But, the 'wing' moniker has been applied to many armies that are made up to 2+ armour save infantry (Ork Deffwing, Lysanderwing, and even the now redundant Chaos Terminator armies - Lustwing, Dustwing, Plaguewing & Bloodwing). The reason for adding the 'wing' part to the name is because Deathwing did it first. They are THE iconic all TDA army, which no-one can dispute.

 

I think half the problem is the very fact that the 'wing' part of the name comes from the Dark Angels Deathwing, and we're Space Wolves - We don't like the Dark Angels. If we were Black Templars for example, and could field an all TDA army, there would be no problem at all calling it Templarwing (or whatever). The problem that we have is that the rivalry with the Dark Angels may run a bit TOO deep, and by trying to define ourselves through taking a more obscure name, we end up being less identifiable.

 

I'm personally a fan of the original Wolfwing name, and I think that's what it's going to be known as by the greater gaming community. Yes, we borrowed part of the name from the Dark Angels - But as everyone knows, Space Wolves are better than Dark Angels, consider Wolfwing to be the improvement on Deathwing!

 

What I'm trying to get at is that by going for the more obscure names, we alienate people, I don't want to call my Wolf TDA army Mjolnir or some other Norse word only to have to answer the question "What's that?" every time. I'd rather take a simpler name where I can say I play Wolfwing, and people's instant response involves them having to make an involuntary change of underwear!

 

 

But where's the fun in that?

 

Name them something Nordic like Einherjar and smile at the baffled expressions. A few weeks later, when they have come to know, fear and respect the name, it feels much more satisfying.

 

This way we build the legend.

[Greyhunter77]

I think the issue with using the more obscure Norse references is that people will not know what you're talking about if you roll up with your Wolf TDA army and call it something most people can't pronounce, let alone spell.

 

We probably need to embrace the K.I.S.S. principle here (Keep it simple, stupid), just so we can heave a readily identifiable army. This means it needs to have something in the name that is tied to the well-known Space Wolves background or chapter name, perhaps something related to locations (Fenris, The Fang etc.), a name (Logan Grimnar, Leman Russ etc.), or maybe tie in something like a weapon (Spear, Sword, Axe etc.).

 

I think the issue that people have with the 'wing' aspect of the name is that people feel as though it's just a copy of the Deathwing's name from the Dark Angels - And to be fair... it really is. But, the 'wing' moniker has been applied to many armies that are made up to 2+ armour save infantry (Ork Deffwing, Lysanderwing, and even the now redundant Chaos Terminator armies - Lustwing, Dustwing, Plaguewing & Bloodwing). The reason for adding the 'wing' part to the name is because Deathwing did it first. They are THE iconic all TDA army, which no-one can dispute.

 

I think half the problem is the very fact that the 'wing' part of the name comes from the Dark Angels Deathwing, and we're Space Wolves - We don't like the Dark Angels. If we were Black Templars for example, and could field an all TDA army, there would be no problem at all calling it Templarwing (or whatever). The problem that we have is that the rivalry with the Dark Angels may run a bit TOO deep, and by trying to define ourselves through taking a more obscure name, we end up being less identifiable.

 

I'm personally a fan of the original Wolfwing name, and I think that's what it's going to be known as by the greater gaming community. Yes, we borrowed part of the name from the Dark Angels - But as everyone knows, Space Wolves are better than Dark Angels, consider Wolfwing to be the improvement on Deathwing!

 

What I'm trying to get at is that by going for the more obscure names, we alienate people, I don't want to call my Wolf TDA army Mjolnir or some other Norse word only to have to answer the question "What's that?" every time. I'd rather take a simpler name where I can say I play Wolfwing, and people's instant response involves them having to make an involuntary change of underwear!

 

 

But where's the fun in that?

 

Name them something Nordic like Einherjar and smile at the baffled expressions. A few weeks later, when they have come to know, fear and respect the name, it feels much more satisfying.

 

This way we build the legend.

 

If we're being Norse shoun't we call them Sagas not legends :D

[Brother Captain Kezef]

If we're being Norse shoun't we call them Sagas not legends :D

 

Smartarse :P

[Scy]

Logan's claw.