flameseeker574 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Well to start off I would like to congratulate my wolfy brothers on their new dex, very much deserved! Now down to business, I'm wondering what the rest of us are going see on the other side of the tourney table next time we play. It seems that this new wolf dex is pretty competitive and I'm sure that at least initially it will be pretty popular among the band wagon jumpers. I haven't seen the codex yet but to the best of my knowledge we will be seeing - A lot of rune priests, I would guess at least one in most competitive armies. JoTWW seems like it totally annihilates orks and nids, but not all that effective against other stuff. - A plethora of Land raiders, I guess this could be said for any SM army but with the new variants that you get and the fact that you can get some pretty solid assault troops to go in them I think it will be especially effective. -Thunderwolf cavalry, I haven't seen the stats on them but from what I've heard they sound brutal. - Loganwing, maybe but depends on the cost of wolf guard. Keep in mind that these are just the thoughts of a rather worried Blood Angel, I want to know what the real wolves think! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179903-new-tourney-lists/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
clanfield Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 grey hunters in vast numbers:) and rune priest in drop pods :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179903-new-tourney-lists/#findComment-2129313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldenhaller Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 just wonderng what 4 JotWW would do if fired off in each round of shooting....may have to try that tonight Thunderwolf cav are brutal...same attacks as a wolf lord, strength, toughness and initiative so striking first on the charge (which is 19-24" in a turn as they're cav) with 6 high strength rending attacks at high initiative or 5 thunderhammer attacks which can't be picked out of the unit as they're not an independent character at str 10... win ~O Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179903-new-tourney-lists/#findComment-2129375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 My tournament list would be bare bones and infantry heavy all mounted. Wolf Priest 14 Blood Claws with a Wolf Guard LRC 10 Grey Hunters w 2 Melta & Fist in a pod 10 Grey Hunters w 2 Melta & Fist in a pod 5 Grey Hunters w Melta & Wolf Guard w fist & Combi in Lazorback 5 Grey Hunters w Melta & Wolf Guard w fist & Combi in Lazorback Perfect synergy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179903-new-tourney-lists/#findComment-2129450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massaen Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 How many points is that?^^^ I am planning a 2k list while avoiding buying much new... hope to get to an event in late Nov Wolf Lord on Thunderwolf with all the fruit, Frost blade, SS, Warriorborn WolfPriest with beastslayer Njal Bjorn 10 GH, 2 plasguns, PF, MotW 6 GH, Meltagun, PW, MotW 6 GH, Meltagun, PW, MotW 6 GH, flamer, PF, MotW 6 Scouts, Meltagun, PW, MotW 6 Long Fangs, 5 Missile Launchers 4 Wolf Guard, Terminator Armour, 3 power fists (broken up to lead the 4 GH packs) Lone Wolf, MotW Very top heavy i know but i only need to buy Canis and Njal... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179903-new-tourney-lists/#findComment-2129496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Howland Greywolf Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 I'm thinking Ragnar (with his wolves) Wolf priest 10 WG LRC 5 WS with melter and MotW (proved very effective the other night) 3 Packs of 10GH with 2 Melters and rhinos See this is what I like about SW players. Every list is built differently. Although I suspect that grey hunters are going to be chosen more now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179903-new-tourney-lists/#findComment-2129512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 How many points is that?^^^ Only 1500pts for 48 models all in transports. Dirt cheap! I am considering swapping out the last Grey Hunter pack in Razorback for 3 Melta Speeders though. It is AMAZING what you can fit in the list when you ignore the glittery HQs Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179903-new-tourney-lists/#findComment-2129524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Durendal Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 I got my fluffy/semi competitive list posted in the Army list area. It basically consists of: Njal Tooled up Wolf Lord (Warrior Born, FA, Belt of Russ) Wolf Scouts (PW, Melta, Meltabombs) Lone Wolf (Termy, TH/SS) 4 WG in termi armor (in a pod w/ Njal) 4X GH Squads (Pretty much all 10 strong with 2X meltas, PW, and MotW, 3 in Rhinos, 1 in a pod) 2X Vindicators All for 2000pts on the nose. Trying now to shave off 25pts so I can give Njal termy armor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179903-new-tourney-lists/#findComment-2129528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldenhaller Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 WL TW/TH/SS/Saga of the warrior RP JotWW/Storm 10 GH - Drop Pod - 2xMelta - Banner 10 GH - Drop Pod - 2xPlasma - Banner 9 GH - Drop Pod - 1 x Flamer - Banner Venerable Dreadnought - Drop Pod Iron Priest - TW/WTN/4xCyberwolves 5xThunderwolves/1xTH/SS 5xThunderwolves/1xTH/SS 6xLong Fangs 2xPC/3xML or something like that ~O Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179903-new-tourney-lists/#findComment-2129534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Howland Greywolf Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 There is one thing I've picked up already though, dont put saga of the warrior borne on a HQ armed with a thunder hammer. Because if his squad wipes out a unit before he does then he might lose his extra attacks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179903-new-tourney-lists/#findComment-2129536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
antique_nova Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 SamaNagol - sorry to dissapoint you, but i can see anything competitve here. it's not as competitive as the guard list ive seen. and mind you if someone put a msytic in their list, your as good as dead. Lord Howland Greywolf has the most competitive list that i've seen though, i guess that it's 1500 points isn't it? not trying to be an arse and apoligies in advance if i am, but to give you wolfs an idea of what i mean by the competitive guard list ive seen, i've posted the list below this comment to give you guys a better understanding of what i said. company command squad 4x plasma chimera with heavy flamer and multi laser marbo with demo charge 2 squads of vets with 3 meltas each. one in valkyrie and the other in vendetta a platoon with their command squad having 3 plasma,plus theinfantry squads and platoon command are in chimeras with heavy bolters and multi lasters and autocannons in each squad. the platoon has a command squad and 2 infantry platoons. they have two demolisher russes and two griffons. their plan is much nastier, but their could be a better list out there. but for the moment i hope someone comes up with a GT wolf winner list ^^, we probably won't know till next year though. or until the GT heats finish. One thing is guaranteed though. the guard are gonna be in a puddle of surprise ^^. lol EDIT: lol holden didn't see my reply and he posted it after me, and we were both typing at the same time for those viewing this thread. thanks antique_nova Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179903-new-tourney-lists/#findComment-2129549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldenhaller Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Don't see it being likely - he'll either go up against the big units (powerclawed ork nobs, nob bikers, Assault terminators, wolfguaard etc) and they'll survive enough for him to be needed or break off on his own and assault othr things individually. It's all about placement of your attacks :) ~O Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179903-new-tourney-lists/#findComment-2129550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 SamaNagol - sorry to dissapoint you, but i can see anything competitve here. it's not as competitive as the guard list ive seen. and mind you if someone put a msytic in their list, your as good as dead. Lord Howland Greywolf has the most competitive list that i've seen though, i guess that it's 1500 points isn't it? not trying to be an arse and apoligies in advance if i am, but to give you wolfs an idea of what i mean by the competitive guard list ive seen, i've posted the list below this comment to give you guys a better understanding of what i said. company command squad 4x plasma chimera with heavy flamer and multi laser marbo with demo charge 2 squads of vets with 3 meltas each. one in valkyrie and the other in vendetta a platoon with their command squad having 3 plasma,plus theinfantry squads and platoon command are in chimeras with heavy bolters and multi lasters and autocannons in each squad. the platoon has a command squad and 2 infantry platoons. they have two demolisher russes and two griffons. their plan is much nastier, but their could be a better list out there. but for the moment i hope someone comes up with a GT wolf winner list ^^, we probably won't know till next year though. or until the GT heats finish. One thing is guaranteed though. the guard are gonna be in a puddle of surprise ^^. lol EDIT: lol holden didn't see my reply and he posted it after me, and we were both typing at the same time for those viewing this thread. thanks antique_nova I don't see your point. Allied Inquisitors to get Mystics mean you lose a unit elsewhere in the list, and that would affect ANY army which uses pods. The thing being that putting GH in a pod when your shock assault troops are also Troops means you can handle the losses much better than other Marine lists. And that Vet heavy list is a problem for all Marines. More so vanilla ones because they aren't as useful close up. We all know how lovely Mech Vets are. That's not really the issue here. Cos otherwise I could start going through how Chaos Space Marines still slap them up, and that is utterly irrelevant to this thread. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179903-new-tourney-lists/#findComment-2129559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldenhaller Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 heh no worries nova guard list looks pretty tasty - is thaat 1500? I'm used to 1750 at the moment aand will need to refine things with the new codex. My mentors have been seeing more play than my wolves recently so i think it's time to beard out on the new book.... ~O Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179903-new-tourney-lists/#findComment-2129580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
volfbjorn Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 i don't know yet but definately my army will have 3-4 GH squads . also Long fangs are a Must Imo. also in 1750 i ll try the ragnar- Logan-WG TDA assault combo on a LRR . i know that it is too much for 1750 pts but i want to see the horror in my opponents face :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179903-new-tourney-lists/#findComment-2129583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byrne Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 I´m toying with 45 fenrisian wolves, with a character that gives them I5! LOL!! They will be a real threat, can you just see a host of deamons, let say bloodletters getting assaulted by them. /Insertevillaughter Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179903-new-tourney-lists/#findComment-2129613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldenhaller Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 almost 400 points for 6+ saves and not scoring units even if you take cannis? They're great fun...but easy KP's so I see a lot of fur flying I'm afraid ~O Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179903-new-tourney-lists/#findComment-2129628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectre312 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 My 1500 isn't finished... being that I'm not anywhere near a proper codex (stupid iraq) But, so far it looks like Njal 10xwolf guard 2termy ac's, Arjac 40XGH And 130 some odd points left to either beef up the GH or add in some armor. But then again, that's just because I'm facing a guy with alot of super AP single shot weapons. so I want ALOT of bodies. stuipid tau suits.... I am impressed that we've been able to play games here though. Alot more guys play this than I expected. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179903-new-tourney-lists/#findComment-2129803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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