Quillen Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 I was told that there would be no Ragnar recast. And no Logan Recast. Which is a shame cause the Space Hulk had better detailed static termies then Logan. He was cool back in the day, but that was way back in the day. Over 12 years I believe. So they need a new casting. Something a little more detailed and more heroic in pose. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179956-the-2nd-wave/page/3/#findComment-2132634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leman Of The Russ Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Really hoping for a Ragnar re-sculpt - the current one just doesn't cut the mustard. That said, been looking at the Space Wolf Pack sprues... you could put together a pretty damn fine Ragnar using some of the bits in there... Ragner looks fine. I love that static pose. Although that insane grin is a bit creepy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179956-the-2nd-wave/page/3/#findComment-2133162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERO Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Really hoping for a Ragnar re-sculpt - the current one just doesn't cut the mustard. That said, been looking at the Space Wolf Pack sprues... you could put together a pretty damn fine Ragnar using some of the bits in there... Ragner looks fine. I love that static pose. Although that insane grin is a bit creepy. You can definitely make your own Ragnar from the Wolf Pack box. Just add assault legs for that run animation and the Frost Blade from the Termie box and you're good to go. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179956-the-2nd-wave/page/3/#findComment-2133218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leman Of The Russ Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 True. But you'd need to do some green stuff conversion to get the pelt of the Blackmane wolf. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179956-the-2nd-wave/page/3/#findComment-2133223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 The Logan model still looks great. Just finished painting mine a little while ago, and it turned out great. Also easiest metal models I've ever painted. I don't get the 'short' complaints - he's as tall as a regular terminator, and he'd be taller if he wasn't leaning forward as he run. Ragnar, on the other hand, is terrible. He is short, and his pose is bad. I have plans, though... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179956-the-2nd-wave/page/3/#findComment-2133313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERO Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 True. But you'd need to do some green stuff conversion to get the pelt of the Blackmane wolf. Yes, if you want to, but I'm going to keep him pretty plain just incase the new Ragnar comes out in March :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179956-the-2nd-wave/page/3/#findComment-2133489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marek Grimfang Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 The SW Rhino will be like the BT version. Plastic doors. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179956-the-2nd-wave/page/3/#findComment-2133773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Runner Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Every one talks about the special characters. What I'd like to know is whether or not we will get any generic independent characters like wolf priests. We do have the one from the 13th co, but I was hoping for new ones. Not everyone plays with SC! Personally I like to use SC during campaigns and not one-off games. From what I'm hearing it looks like we will have to convert the normal vanilla IC. That does not bother me, but it's a bit too much work for gaming pieces (spoken like a true lazy pig). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179956-the-2nd-wave/page/3/#findComment-2133964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Lord Fenrir Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 My suspicion is that there will be a new Iron Priest model, as it's not pictured in the book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179956-the-2nd-wave/page/3/#findComment-2134028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Grius Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 These are a little low on my list of priorities, but some wolfy bikes would be cool. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179956-the-2nd-wave/page/3/#findComment-2134030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadex1 Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 I think that Logan is fine, but i have a feeling they will probably recast Ragnar, he's sort of tough to paint, but who knows. Does anyone know if the wulfen are going to be coming out in this dex? or where i could be pointed in the right direction if i wanted to ask this somewhere else? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179956-the-2nd-wave/page/3/#findComment-2135087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growler67 Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Does anyone know if the wulfen are going to be coming out in this dex? or where i could be pointed in the right direction if i wanted to ask this somewhere else? Wulfen have been eliminated from the Dex. Some are using the old models to indicate which individuals have "Mark of the Wulfen" as an upgrade, though. Use the Search for "Wulfen" and you'll find what you seek. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179956-the-2nd-wave/page/3/#findComment-2135729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
clanfield Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 id like a generic wolf priest and cyber wolves would be nice Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179956-the-2nd-wave/page/3/#findComment-2135844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leman Of The Russ Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Cyber wolves fail. Only the Iron Priest uses them, and they're available as leaders for Wolf Packs. And there are generic Wolf Priest models. Cyber wolves fail. Only the Iron Priest uses them, and they're available as leaders for Wolf Packs. And there are generic Wolf Priest models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179956-the-2nd-wave/page/3/#findComment-2137082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Guard Dan Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Ragnar does need a new model. But like stated before you can use SW pack box to make a model of him. Iron Priest model is cool. Looks like he is staring into the distance waiting for like a bunch of bugs to rush at him so he can smash em!!!! I would like to see: 1) Plastic TW calvary. 2) Fen Wolves. Orc&Goblin model is okay but face would need application of GS. 3) I would like to see alternative runepriest or wolf priest. Anything else could be created with box sets they introduced now. And you could make the same argument that IC can just be GS'ed to look wolfy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179956-the-2nd-wave/page/3/#findComment-2137119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primarch015 Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Space Wolves riding Tyranids. Hahaha, after a few barrels of ale I'm sure the SW play genestealer rodeo! OMG you guys read my mind! hahahahaha. anyway 2nd wave: thunder wolf cavalry ragnar logan grimnar random box i forgot 1 random box i forgot 2 and finally: random box i forgot 3 this is considering GW said they were going to release models if they were in the book there is no new ragnar or logan. they, along with ulric, are going to be the same. thunderwolf more then likely, although there are no plans from GW to make one. same with the fen wolves. i dont think we will see box sets. we have the one box that can go with all the others to make tons of things. my sources say otherwise about the special characters. however i did hear they are not resculpting logan at all. the space wolves thread on warseer rumor forums states that all space wolves characters are getting re-done except logan. not to mention various red shirts hinting at resculpts of ulrik and ragnar. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179956-the-2nd-wave/page/3/#findComment-2137294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primarch015 Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 look at the codex. no new sculps. if they were going to do it, they would have shown them in there not true. space marines 4th edition codex did not have the new Calgar and honor guard pictured, he came 2nd or 3rd wave SM release. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179956-the-2nd-wave/page/3/#findComment-2137428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 The MAIN difference that people don't really realise between current minis and old school Marines is not a height issue, it is a thickness issue. Predominantly in the legs. Logan looks 'small' because he has much thinner legs than the current Terminators. He is in fact the same height. Same goes for all the old metal power armoured marines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179956-the-2nd-wave/page/3/#findComment-2140869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvtalon Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 I heard the last item being shipped I think this friday if I recall correctly, will be the NEW Space Wolves Battleforce. This came info came from my core game store whom talked with their GW rep today. The New Space Wolves battleforce box will be the Last New Item of the first wave. Second phase Still waiting to hear whats in it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179956-the-2nd-wave/page/3/#findComment-2140909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growler67 Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 IIRC, 17 October is the official release date for the BattleForce box. Will be waiting eagerly to find out what will be and when to expect the second wave. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179956-the-2nd-wave/page/3/#findComment-2140952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Mek Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 There's been contradictions to what's been said, and I'm not going to quote any sources here so choose to not believe me if you want, but so far I've heard this: All HQ special characters will be re-done bar Logan. So thats Ragnar, Bjorn (probably just the Space Wolves Dreadnought kit I've heard might be second wave) and Ulrik. TWC will probably be 1 or 2 models, think Bloodletters on Juggernaut. One for the HQ with Juggernaut who can be used as a champion for the squad (So thats one for a Wolf Lord/TWC champion.) and a generic one for the squad (so a normal TWC model). So they'll be expensive and only 2 variant models, which gives you the same problem daemon players had with juggernaut units, they're awesome but too expensive and would all look the same. Shame really but maybe conversion will be easier with TWC. I hadn't heard a thing about SW Rhino, so I doubt it, but maybe a Vehicle Accessory Sprue? That's all I'd expect, 2 Characters, Dreadnought kit (Bjorn) and 1 or 2 TWC models. And I'm being Hopeful about this, they may decide not to have the second wave as the whole selling point of SW is all you need to buy are the same 2 box sets to make everything. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179956-the-2nd-wave/page/3/#findComment-2141412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherrboh Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 well, seeing as they are presumedly doing 'nids next, i can imagine the reason they chose nids was so they didnt have to recreate a whole lot of units or recast models, as their range is quite extensive and characterful atm without too much change. IF this is the case, IF, then this may mean that GW havent needed to devote to many man hours to remodelling them, and are thus spending their time on other modelling project. I would wish they were the a Wolf priest model, Thunderwolf cav, and redo of ulrik and ragnar at least. it is possible theyre devoting their time to the project after the nids, if my theorys accurate. however, the Logan Grimnar model is becoming an Order only model for GW in Australia, or at least in WA, so wether or not that means anything i dont know. i presume, since to codex has just come out, theyd keep it in for months on end, but its leaving the shelves in 2 weeks, or when the last order runs out, perhaps to starve collectors before the feast of the 2nd wave! also, now that we have such an awesome codex, is it unreasonable to expect a visit upon in modelling terms every now and then? really, i would like to know an answer to this question.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179956-the-2nd-wave/page/3/#findComment-2141493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldenhaller Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 The MAIN difference that people don't really realise between current minis and old school Marines is not a height issue, it is a thickness issue. Predominantly in the legs. Logan looks 'small' because he has much thinner legs than the current Terminators. He is in fact the same height. Same goes for all the old metal power armoured marines. Um...have a look aat some of the new wolf guard in tda....they've got rickets. I think they must have been done by the same sculpter who did the marine vets who looked like thier legs would snap rather than hold them up! ~O Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179956-the-2nd-wave/page/3/#findComment-2141503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dublindawg Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 When I open my bit box I have a hard time telling regular SM legs from Termie legs, they very close in size/thickness. The only difference I can see is the distance between the feet. I have to place the termie legs in with the other termie bits bin so I don't grab them in error. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179956-the-2nd-wave/page/3/#findComment-2141528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skrubb Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 The Iron Priest is the last thing I want remodelled! The miniature is beautiful. It was the very first citadel-miniature I bought and painted, except for the 2nd ed boxed set. (Oh, and possibly that wonderful squat heavy weapons trike) I bought the iron priest for the looks entirely. And I love it as much today. If they do remodel it, I hope they keep most of the details. And I do not want a bareheaded Iron priest! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/179956-the-2nd-wave/page/3/#findComment-2159543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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