Grey Mage Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Im having problems finding the rules/ruling that allows troops choice bikes to score. Help please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatcrusade08 Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 its under space marine captain in a box called "mounted assault". I dotn have my codex but im sure someone will give you the page number (its in the main section not under the reference near the end of the book). A bike squad of 5 strong or more may be taken as a troops choice if you include a captain on bike... obviously troops score so bobs your mothers brother. Gc08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted September 30, 2009 Author Share Posted September 30, 2009 Rhinos dont score, and theyre troops :lol:. So Im taking it that the ONLY scoring rules are found on pg 90, and thus anything not restricted there can be scoring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellios Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Ravenwing Land Speeders, Ork Deff dreads :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornishman Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 its under space marine captain in a box called "mounted assault". I dotn have my codex but im sure someone will give you the page number (its in the main section not under the reference near the end of the book). A bike squad of 5 strong or more may be taken as a troops choice if you include a captain on bike... obviously troops score so bobs your mothers brother. Gc08 Indeed, page 54. Would be bikers remember that the requirement is 5 models, so the smallest unit size that can be a troops choices is either 5 bikers, or 4 bikers and a attack bike. Rhinos dont score, and theyre troops :P. So Im taking it that the ONLY scoring rules are found on pg 90, and thus anything not restricted there can be scoring? Yup, though other rules (e.g. Kantors Hold the Line) can modify these requirements or exeptions so allowing non-Troops to score or if such a rule existed (non)troop vehicles to score. Ravenwing Land Speeders, Ork Deff dreads :P IIRC Deff Dreads are taken as Troops choices, but being a vehicle still aren't scoring (BRB pg 90). As for Ravenwing Land Speeders, are they troop choices, and/or have a special rule allowing them to score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted September 30, 2009 Author Share Posted September 30, 2009 Ravenwing speeders do have a special rule allowing them to score... and it was struck down by the GW FAQ. I remember the rage over that quite well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeattleDV8 Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 No it wasn't, the FAQ removed the line making units scoring if they were at 50% or higher model count. DA Codex Pg. 27 "...they always operate as completely independent scoring units of one model." This is unchanged, the Attack Squadron's Land Speeder is still scoring ,the support squadron's are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromedog Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Also, Rhinos are NOT troops. They are transports that can carry (certain) scoring units. It is the scoring unit carried that enables the rhino to score, not the rhino itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinyRhino Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 IIRC Deff Dreads are taken as Troops choices, but being a vehicle still aren't scoring (BRB pg 90). Incorrect. If it's taken as a Troops choice, it's scoring. Codex over rulebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyescrossed Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 IIRC Deff Dreads are taken as Troops choices, but being a vehicle still aren't scoring (BRB pg 90). Incorrect. If it's taken as a Troops choice, it's scoring. Codex over rulebook. Does it say anywhere in the Ork codex that if Deff Dreads are taken as a Troops choice they're scoring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 IIRC Deff Dreads are taken as Troops choices, but being a vehicle still aren't scoring (BRB pg 90). Incorrect. If it's taken as a Troops choice, it's scoring. Codex over rulebook. Does it say anywhere in the Ork codex that if Deff Dreads are taken as a Troops choice they're scoring? No. They are a vehicle troops choice and therefore not scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyescrossed Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 IIRC Deff Dreads are taken as Troops choices, but being a vehicle still aren't scoring (BRB pg 90). Incorrect. If it's taken as a Troops choice, it's scoring. Codex over rulebook. Does it say anywhere in the Ork codex that if Deff Dreads are taken as a Troops choice they're scoring? No. They are a vehicle troops choice and therefore not scoring. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinyRhino Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 IIRC Deff Dreads are taken as Troops choices, but being a vehicle still aren't scoring (BRB pg 90). Incorrect. If it's taken as a Troops choice, it's scoring. Codex over rulebook. Does it say anywhere in the Ork codex that if Deff Dreads are taken as a Troops choice they're scoring? No. They are a vehicle troops choice and therefore not scoring. Exactly. Crazy. What's the point of taking one as a Troops choice then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyescrossed Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 IIRC Deff Dreads are taken as Troops choices, but being a vehicle still aren't scoring (BRB pg 90). Incorrect. If it's taken as a Troops choice, it's scoring. Codex over rulebook. Does it say anywhere in the Ork codex that if Deff Dreads are taken as a Troops choice they're scoring? No. They are a vehicle troops choice and therefore not scoring. Exactly. Crazy. What's the point of taking one as a Troops choice then? Freeing up a HS slot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 IIRC Deff Dreads are taken as Troops choices, but being a vehicle still aren't scoring (BRB pg 90). Incorrect. If it's taken as a Troops choice, it's scoring. Codex over rulebook. Does it say anywhere in the Ork codex that if Deff Dreads are taken as a Troops choice they're scoring? No. They are a vehicle troops choice and therefore not scoring. Exactly. Crazy. What's the point of taking one as a Troops choice then? Freeing up a HS slot... And fillig up a mandatory Troops slot if you aren't worried about objectives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted September 30, 2009 Author Share Posted September 30, 2009 Or having a really fun and fluffy "March of the Khans" orky army. Also, Rhinos are NOT troops. They are transports that can carry (certain) scoring units. It is the scoring unit carried that enables the rhino to score, not the rhino itself. If taken as the transport for a Tactical squad, BA JPless assault squad, C:CSM troops squad, etc they count as a "troops choice" that doesnt take up a slot- much as a command squad is an HQ choice that doesnt take up an HQ slot. Theyre not scoring because they are vehicles. No it wasn't, the FAQ removed the line making units scoring if they were at 50% or higher model count.DA Codex Pg. 27 "...they always operate as completely independent scoring units of one model." This is unchanged, the Attack Squadron's Land Speeder is still scoring ,the support squadron's are not. Sorry, its been a while since I saw the thread, and I dont play DA. Thanks for the heads up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty the Pyro Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Also, Rhinos are NOT troops. They are transports that can carry (certain) scoring units. It is the scoring unit carried that enables the rhino to score, not the rhino itself. Rhinoes ARE troops if taken as a dedicated transport for a troops choice. See dedicated transports, pg 87. The reason they are not scoring is because they are vehicles. This is primarily important on missions like dawn of war, where a tac squad in a rhino would count as both troop choices you are allowed to deploy at the start of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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