El Scotcho Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 I am curious, especially from our actual norse brethren, how y'all say Njal Stormcaller's name. I've heard people say it like its spelled Nigel, and I personally think it should be pronounced like the word y'all with an N in front of it. It's been bugging me, and I have to know whether I'm right or wrong. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180110-how-do-you-say-it/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 I've been pronouncing it as Nee-Yahl. I don't know if this correct, as I'm basing it off the one time I hear Mjolnir procounced (as Me-Yol-Nirror). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180110-how-do-you-say-it/#findComment-2132450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGC Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 I was thinking over this the other day for some reason. I have always thought it would be ner-jall or na-jal (with a flat sounding A(how do you write pronounciations??) but thought the other day I thought it could be en-jal (sort of angel sounding??) but never Nigel. The thought and sound of Nigel Stormcaller just doesn't work for me, it would be like Dave the Interogator or Henry the Merciless I am sure some of our northern european brothers would have a much better idea of the proper way to say Njal so keep looking DGC Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180110-how-do-you-say-it/#findComment-2132454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 J is usually pronounced with kind of a "yeeh" sound to it. Bjorn is often prounced as Beorn *I dont know how to do the little dots*. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180110-how-do-you-say-it/#findComment-2132465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlk Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Well I'm from Middle Europe so my slavonic part tells me the pronounciation is "N-Yul", the N is not pronounced as "en" but just as "n", just as at the beginning of the word "no"... and supposing the pronounciation of norse languages is similar to German which I used to study, I guess that's right. So "Njal = N-Yul" for me. With Bjorn, I believe it should be pronounced as "B-yorn". If there are any Scandinavian brothers, please feel free to correct me :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180110-how-do-you-say-it/#findComment-2132501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nilsson Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 If there are any Scandinavian brothers, please feel free to correct me :) It acually depends on who you ask, though, Swedish as I am I acually pronounce it "Nj'all". Though, it's not acually an Scandinavian name I belive, it acually sound more, "English". -Have a cold one on me. Nilsson Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180110-how-do-you-say-it/#findComment-2132505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natanael Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 As Nilsson said, I think in swedish it is more like "Nj'all" or more like "Nyal". At least that is how I would pronounce it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180110-how-do-you-say-it/#findComment-2132517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 I tend to say Stormcaller because I don't want to sound an idiot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180110-how-do-you-say-it/#findComment-2132518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catheras Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Hi wolf brothers ! I thought I should try and help out with the pronunciation a little since i am from Norway, I'm not an expert so please bear with me. Bjorn is taken from a Norwegian name that spells Bjørn in the Norwegian language. Foreigners will have problems with pronouncing the Ø. I found a good example of other words to help you get the right sound of the Ø. In english you have the right pronunciation of ø in the word but and ugly, the u being the right sound. In french you get the same sound from the word ceux and the combination eu is the sound you look for. And for Njal, it's not really a big thing, a straight forward pronunciation in english is pretty close to Norwegian. I'll try and help as good as i can if there are more names that stem from Norwegian Viking age Scandinavian old Culture. For the Wolftime, for Russ !!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180110-how-do-you-say-it/#findComment-2132525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Scotcho Posted October 1, 2009 Author Share Posted October 1, 2009 Hah I'm glad I got that cleared up. Now I can can go an make fun of the r'tards at my FLGS for calling him Nigel. But seriously, thank you for responding. It helps me retain another little chunk of sanity (because thats been bugging me since I first saw his name, back in '96), and also makes me feel a little better for being closer to the proper pronunciation than a Dark Angel. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180110-how-do-you-say-it/#findComment-2132586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastellan Kong Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 In english you have the right pronunciation of ø in the word but and ugly, the u being the right sound.In french you get the same sound from the word ceux and the combination eu is the sound you look for. Not even close. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180110-how-do-you-say-it/#findComment-2132591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPetersson Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 I'm Danish, and I pronounce it N'yall Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180110-how-do-you-say-it/#findComment-2132604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 I'm Danish, and I pronounce it N'yall I like that pronounciation. I think I've found my one! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180110-how-do-you-say-it/#findComment-2132605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catheras Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 King Kong: Would you care to make your comment a little more understandable? I'm Danish, and I pronounce it N'yall It sounds a lot like the way we say it here in Norway also. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180110-how-do-you-say-it/#findComment-2132635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectre312 Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 I look at it kind of oddly. After I drink alot, neeghal gets rough. but y's I can do.Bjorn Beorn b-yorn, njal n-yahl....I figure, whatever is easier to say DRUNK, might be right for a wolf ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180110-how-do-you-say-it/#findComment-2132654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Forgetful Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Bjorn is taken from a Norwegian name that spells Bjørn in the Norwegian language. Foreigners will have problems withpronouncing the Ø. I found a good example of other words to help you get the right sound of the Ø. Actually I think they used the Swedish equivalent which is Björn, I do believe that's even the correct way to spell the Fell-handeds name. Though not to start an Scandinavian war here about who's right since that is pretty much "you say Tomato and I say Tomato", I do believe "N'yall" would be a good way to try to explain how it's pronunciated for an english speaking person. - Forgetful Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180110-how-do-you-say-it/#findComment-2132679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastellan Kong Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 King Kong: Would you care to make your comment a little more understandable? The u in but and ugly isn't even close to being the right sound. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180110-how-do-you-say-it/#findComment-2132683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjugin Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 I believe Njal is an Icelandic name. At least there is an old Icelandic story from the 13th century where one of the characters are called Njál. In the link below you'll find a audio file where some Icelandic dude pronounces it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nj%C3%A1ls_saga However, he doesn't say the "a" in Njal as as you would in Sweden or Norway, so perhaps the "´" over the "a" in "Njál" changes the pronouncuation a little.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180110-how-do-you-say-it/#findComment-2132685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrox Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 The u in but and ugly isn't even close to being the right sound. Well then would you care to enlighten us?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180110-how-do-you-say-it/#findComment-2132711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zemox Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 I completely agree with my scandinavian bretheren, on several points: I would probably pronounce Njal as Ny-ahl but having spendt ten months in new zealand i know that english speaking countries really doesnt pronounce the letters the same way we do, and saying "Vebjørn" for them is like climbing mount everest, impossible unless someone explains it to you, and even then about 1 in 7 is never going to manage it. I also agree about that the U in ugly is probably as close to Ø as you guys get, and the O with the two dots is the sweedish alphabet i believe, (didnt look it up so cant be completely sure). But yeah you guys should stick to Nyal or Nyahl the H beeing almost completely silent and i put it there because when i say Nyal the A is quite long and it sounds like there is an H hidden in there somewhere. And no its not nigel, to me that sounds like you just swallowed a massive keg of ultramarian whine (a small teacup on fenris) and it is messing with your head. EDIT: Njál might be pronounced like an Å but im not sure, icelandic tough is very close to old norse, except that norse was a very "hard" language, whereas icelandic is "soft" in comparising. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180110-how-do-you-say-it/#findComment-2132742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjugin Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 I also agree about that the U in ugly is probably as close to Ø as you guys get, and the O with the two dots is the sweedish alphabet i believe, (didnt look it up so cant be completely sure). EDIT: Njál might be pronounced like an Å but im not sure, icelandic tough is very close to old norse, except that norse was a very "hard" language, whereas icelandic is "soft" in comparising. The "ö" in swedish sounds alot more like the "á" in the link above. I can't think of any word in the english language that uses the "Ö" or "Ø" sound (which I guess is the same sounds, I dont really know any Norwegian).. Å sounds like the "o" in "order" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180110-how-do-you-say-it/#findComment-2132865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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