gettothegone Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Can you use a psychic hood from inside a transport without a firing point. IE. Librarian in a Land Raider. I can't find where it would say that I can or can't but I have seen that you still treat this from the hull of the tank. Same for Null Zone and other such things. Thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180139-psychic-hoods-and-you/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Can you use a psychic hood from inside a transport without a firing point. IE. Librarian in a Land Raider. I can't find where it would say that I can or can't but I have seen that you still treat this from the hull of the tank. Same for Null Zone and other such things. Thoughts? You do not need LOS to use the Psychic Hood, so yes, you can use one from within a Land Raider. Indeed, that's usually how my psychic hood goes off. <_< Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180139-psychic-hoods-and-you/#findComment-2132862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gettothegone Posted October 1, 2009 Author Share Posted October 1, 2009 Can you use a psychic hood from inside a transport without a firing point. IE. Librarian in a Land Raider. I can't find where it would say that I can or can't but I have seen that you still treat this from the hull of the tank. Same for Null Zone and other such things. Thoughts? You do not need LOS to use the Psychic Hood, so yes, you can use one from within a Land Raider. Indeed, that's usually how my psychic hood goes off. <_< Is there somewhere where you can confirm this for me though? It was left up to a 4+ roll vs an Eldar because I couldn't provide proof, and subsequently got quashed on my epic roll of 1. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180139-psychic-hoods-and-you/#findComment-2132882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thantoes Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 The hood is not a shooting attack and does not require LOS to use. Thats all the proof you need. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180139-psychic-hoods-and-you/#findComment-2132923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTang Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Even though it prevents them, the hood's not a psychic power, though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180139-psychic-hoods-and-you/#findComment-2132994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gettothegone Posted October 1, 2009 Author Share Posted October 1, 2009 Even though it prevents them, the hood's not a psychic power, though. That's where the grey area is, and where I'm looking for clarification. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180139-psychic-hoods-and-you/#findComment-2133081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatcrusade08 Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 the psychic hood is not a shooting power, therefore you do not need LOS to use it... if you dont need LOS you dont need a firing point. That is the only argument you need... check the firing point section of the rulebook for the proper quotes though. Gc08 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180139-psychic-hoods-and-you/#findComment-2133096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTang Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 A psychic hood is not a power at all. It's wargear. To possibly go with something more comparable, a model with a standard or banner in a transport would or would not work on the same basis as the psychic hood. What's been the consensus on that? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180139-psychic-hoods-and-you/#findComment-2133345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkGuard Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 A psychic hood is not a power at all. It's wargear. To possibly go with something more comparable, a model with a standard or banner in a transport would or would not work on the same basis as the psychic hood. What's been the consensus on that? Kantor's ability is comparable to a Chapter Banner, and it works if he is in a vehicle, it is just measured from the vehicle hull. The same would therefore apply to other banners etc and so by this reasoning a psychic hood would work when it is in a vehicle as well. Unless someone gives me compelling evidence against it, I will always assume that the psychic hood will work in a vehicle, you measure from the hull of the vehicle when applying its effect, and as it is not a shooting power it doesn't require a fire point or LOS. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180139-psychic-hoods-and-you/#findComment-2134536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 To summarize: The hood is NOT a psychic power, NOR is it a Shooting Attack. It is War Gear. Therefore it does not require a psychic test, and it does not require LOS. It has it's effect in the same way as the Chapter Banner does (good example). For proof, refer your friend to this thread. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180139-psychic-hoods-and-you/#findComment-2134555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gettothegone Posted October 5, 2009 Author Share Posted October 5, 2009 Thanks. Will use the arguments stated here next time some eldar gets pissed that I'm running a librarian. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180139-psychic-hoods-and-you/#findComment-2138330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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