White Hunter Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Okay, I've been looking at the new dex and trying to decide what the best way to kit them out will be. I plan to run them in packs of 5 in LRR. Depending on the game they will be going with either 1. Grimnar, may also footslog 2. Ragnar 3. Rune priest in TDA with one of the sagas So what it the best way to kit them all out? Opinions and suggestions please. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180514-best-way-to-kit-out-you-terminators/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Amarel Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 I've been wondering the same, tbh. So far I reckon at least one with twin Wolf Claws, two with Storm Shields and one with Thunder Hammer. But looking forward to hearing what other have to say... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180514-best-way-to-kit-out-you-terminators/#findComment-2137287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryzouken Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 well that all depends. I mean, how big was the initial pack of Wolf Guard? Your answer identifies whether you can take one heavy weapon or two. After that determination, how much anti tank is in your list? Are you hurting for long ranged anti tank? What's the primary role this unit is going to cover? With only the very generalized information above, my answer has to be: equip them the cheapest you can while making sure they can accomplish their mission. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180514-best-way-to-kit-out-you-terminators/#findComment-2137289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Amarel Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 well that all depends. I mean, how big was the initial pack of Wolf Guard? Your answer identifies whether you can take one heavy weapon or two. After that determination, how much anti tank is in your list? Are you hurting for long ranged anti tank? What's the primary role this unit is going to cover? With only the very generalized information above, my answer has to be: equip them the cheapest you can while making sure they can accomplish their mission. Er... Unit of 5 equipped for CC (as they're in a LRR). I think there's probably a common central core that can be worked from, it's just a matter of discussion to find it. I'll go out on a limb and suggest: 1 x Twin WC 1 x PW & SS 1 x Combi-Melta & SS 1 x Combi-Melta & WC 1 x TH & PW Although that might be a Chainfist light (which would replace the single WC). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180514-best-way-to-kit-out-you-terminators/#findComment-2137313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryzouken Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 I'd consider replacing the Combi-Melta on the Storm Shield dude with a Heavy Flamer. Gives em a nice torch in case of horde infantry. The numerous hammer (and chainfist) attacks will work out well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180514-best-way-to-kit-out-you-terminators/#findComment-2137332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Hunter Posted October 4, 2009 Author Share Posted October 4, 2009 Thanks guys, what about tailored terminator squads for Ragnar and the old wolf? I was thinking wolf claws or frost blades with ragnar, but what type of unit would get the best boost from Grimnar? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180514-best-way-to-kit-out-you-terminators/#findComment-2137345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG Vrox Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 I was thinking wolf claws or frost blades with ragnar, but what type of unit would get the best boost from Grimnar? For Ragnar for the extra attacks, always nice to have reroll options the WC provide WC/WC CM/WC SS/WC SS/FB HF/CF For Grimnar perferred enemy requires a bit more thump, as Grimnar can PF or FB his weapon, just a matter of backing that up with some WG using SS and and hard hitting weapons. CM/PW SS/FB SS/FB SS/TH HF/CF Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180514-best-way-to-kit-out-you-terminators/#findComment-2137364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilmerlin Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 This is what I intend to use in a drop pod 2x Frost Blade, Combi-Melta 1x Twin Wolf Claws 1x Assault Cannon, Chainfist 1x Arjac 445 (including drop pod) Expensive as hell but I think it packs a rather significant punch. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180514-best-way-to-kit-out-you-terminators/#findComment-2137402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Hunter Posted October 5, 2009 Author Share Posted October 5, 2009 Would it be better to leave grimnar out of a transport, and to put him in a squad of 10x Terminators with 2 CML and footslog them? with tank hunters that is basically 4 mobile lascannon shots a turn and then once they reach infantry use preferred enemy to k.o. them. Thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180514-best-way-to-kit-out-you-terminators/#findComment-2137417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunchb0x Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 with bling. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180514-best-way-to-kit-out-you-terminators/#findComment-2137510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERO Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 With Ragnar's FC, I would use a cheap Wolf Claw Terminator w/ cbM. This gives me anti-tank and S5 re-roll wounds or hit on the charge. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180514-best-way-to-kit-out-you-terminators/#findComment-2137700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenmichi Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 So far I'm using: 1x Assault Cannon and Wolf Claw 1x Heavy Flamer and Wolf Claw 1x Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield 1x Dual Wolf Claws 1x Arjac They'll be accompanying the Wolf Lord in a Crusader. Though I may not kit them out that way, specifically the Wolf Claws on the special weapon guys as the total cost of these 5 WG is 420, not including the 5 other WG in PA spread across the rest of the army. Before Arjac these guys are cheap at only 250 for the punch they pack, but then again with Arjac they will decimate just about anything they come into contact with, assuming the squad survives 4 rending shots, an AP 4 template, and Arjac's rail-hammer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180514-best-way-to-kit-out-you-terminators/#findComment-2138049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectre312 Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 I was thinking wolf claws or frost blades with ragnar, but what type of unit would get the best boost from Grimnar? For Ragnar for the extra attacks, always nice to have reroll options the WC provide WC/WC CM/WC SS/WC SS/FB HF/CF For Grimnar perferred enemy requires a bit more thump, as Grimnar can PF or FB his weapon, just a matter of backing that up with some WG using SS and and hard hitting weapons. CM/PW SS/FB SS/FB SS/TH HF/CF I'm liking this make up alot, but the last guy, Heavy flamer+combi flamer? CF has me confused, sorry >.< Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180514-best-way-to-kit-out-you-terminators/#findComment-2138104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenmichi Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Combi-Flamer, probably. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180514-best-way-to-kit-out-you-terminators/#findComment-2138116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Amarel Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 CF = Chain Fist. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180514-best-way-to-kit-out-you-terminators/#findComment-2138146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Amarel Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 I'd consider replacing the Combi-Melta on the Storm Shield dude with a Heavy Flamer. Gives em a nice torch in case of horde infantry. The numerous hammer (and chainfist) attacks will work out well. Although with them travellng in a LRR, everything that can be flamed, should already be flamed :P. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180514-best-way-to-kit-out-you-terminators/#findComment-2138152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
antique_nova Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 i would frost blade the men and get ragnar to join in. S6 I5 with a minimum of 4 attacks max 6 attacks is nothing to sniff at. ( +1 strenght for the frost weapon and +1 for FC ) cheaper as well ^^. thanks antique_nova Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180514-best-way-to-kit-out-you-terminators/#findComment-2138158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 This is what I intend to use in a drop pod 2x Frost Blade, Combi-Melta 1x Twin Wolf Claws 1x Assault Cannon, Chainfist 1x Arjac 445 (including drop pod) Expensive as hell but I think it packs a rather significant punch. Evilmerlin, that looks delicious. Love to see your new DP list. Your 4th ed. SW drop pod force inspired me greatly. ------------- For OP... I've been keeping my termies pretty cheap in my DP force. (exception are the heavy weapon terms in GH packs). (Pack in pod) 3xWG termie with combi melta= 1xWG termie with combi flamer, power fist= 1xWG termie with combi flamer,= total=235 (Pack in pod)= 4xWG in termie with combi plasma= 1xWG in termie with combi plasma and chain fist= total=241 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180514-best-way-to-kit-out-you-terminators/#findComment-2138165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Wolfclaws and than give them Preffered enemy through Logan. Let those re-rolls to hit and wound put the hurt on the enemy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180514-best-way-to-kit-out-you-terminators/#findComment-2138322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Hunter Posted October 5, 2009 Author Share Posted October 5, 2009 Okay so this is what I'm looking at for the units. Logan: Arjak Rockfist 3x TDA with dual wolf claws 1 chain fist +SS+cyclone Points 425 Ragnar 5x Frost blade and bolt pistols 3x with melta bombs Points 230 Also a quick question, a weapons strength can only be increased to a maximum of 10 no matter what correct? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180514-best-way-to-kit-out-you-terminators/#findComment-2138344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERO Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 To be honest, I would take Wolf Claws over Frost Blades with Ragnar. S5 or S6 (FC) is not better than S5 (FC) with re-rolls to wound. And they're a lot cheaper. 3x Melta Bombs is a bad way to get tarpitted vs. T8 MCs or Walkers.. so you need Chain Fists in there. 5x WGT (5x cbM, 3x WC, 2x CF) = 235, gives you 5 combi-meltas, 3 wolf claws and 2 chain fists. (best with Ragnar) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180514-best-way-to-kit-out-you-terminators/#findComment-2138595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG Vrox Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Okay so this is what I'm looking at for the units. Logan:2** Points 425 Ragnar 2** Points 230 <_< You better working on at least a 2k list cause you just spent 1k. Alot of eggs in 2 baskets. Vrox Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180514-best-way-to-kit-out-you-terminators/#findComment-2138624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Tiger Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 what I'm gonna go for is 5 wolf guard terminators, replacing the power weapons with single wolf claws, and 1 guy with heavy flamer. I have no idea how effective it will be, and don't care much, I just like the idea of keeping the firepower there, but having extra punch in close combat Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180514-best-way-to-kit-out-you-terminators/#findComment-2138832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rokafort Stonewolf Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 I think the 5 combi-meltas, 2 chainfists, 3 wolf claws is a pretty solid deal. I might replace one of the CMs with an asscan or add a cyclone, but that's about where I'd stop. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180514-best-way-to-kit-out-you-terminators/#findComment-2138854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeslikethunder Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 To be honest, I would take Wolf Claws over Frost Blades with Ragnar. S5 or S6 (FC) is not better than S5 (FC) with re-rolls to wound. And they're a lot cheaper. Ohh but frost blades allows more attacks cheaper as he was taking pistols so no need for a second one math hammer time lets say ragner rolls average of his attacks roll so 5 guys charging with FC so 4 attacks for the WC's and 5 attacks for the frost blades against meq so 20 attacks WC 10 hit 9 wounds after reroll 25 attacks FB 12.5 hit 10.4 wounds so frost blades work better if you take a pistol but you are losing some firepower where the WC's will have Combi weapons but you could have a few plasma pistols but if want a pure close combat squad Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180514-best-way-to-kit-out-you-terminators/#findComment-2138890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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