stinkenheim Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Ok, heres the start of my tutorial on scultping a wolf cloak, i'm only part way through, the scond part should be online tomorrow sometime, and will be followe up by a tut on how i paint my fur. Firstly get your model, a fairly obvious step but i had to start somewhere... here my wolf lord, hes sad and cold cos he has no cloak ;) http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00710.jpg The mix up some greenstuff and tease it out into thin strips, these will form the legs of your pelt. A good tip for when you do this, is once each limb is placed roughly where you want, put a thin layer of superglue over the greenstuff. When this dries it should help to keep the greenstuff in place while it cures. If the cloak is going to be away from the model, and therefore will have nothing to rest on while it dries, use a lump of blu-tak to help it hold its shape. http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00711.jpg http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00712.jpg http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00713.jpg Once you have the basic skeleton of the cloak (dont worry about how messy or poo this looks) you need to start adding the claws. i've found out the hard way that its a bad idea to sculpt the fur before the claws... http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00714.jpg I make the claws by rolling out a small point of greenstuff, make sure you have a bit extra on the opposite end to the point, this is waht you will attatch the claw to the pelt with. http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00716.jpg i then carefully pick it up with my sculpting tool before positioning it where i want it to go. I find its best to have it overhanging the cloak, although you dont have to, it just looks better in my opinion. Then use flatten the excess greenstuff onto the paw. http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00717.jpg http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00718.jpg This should give you a look a bit like this http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00719.jpg Thats the end for part one, i will start scultping the fur once this has dried and keep you posted guys. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180642-sculpting-a-wolf-cloak/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
maznaz Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 That's really nice; I'll be following this with interest. Some questions though: What are the shield, the hammer and the wolf head from? Will you do a tutorial on the talisman "necklace" thing? It looks really good. Marek Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180642-sculpting-a-wolf-cloak/#findComment-2138966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkenheim Posted October 5, 2009 Author Share Posted October 5, 2009 i have done a tut on wolf tooth necklaces and wolf tail talismans its here http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...6089&st=200 the shield is from the lmtd edition white dwarf on shield bearers (the one where gotrek and bugman held him up) i've filed the runes off of it and i'm gonna put a layer of greenstuff over the top to smooth it out. When its done im gonna paint his emblem and 'stuff' on it to look like its been etched in metal. the hammer is from a dwarf engineer with great weapon in fact its this guy here http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/...odId=prod780870 the hand that holds it is from the current techmarine. the wolf head was taken from logan grimnar, i had half of one i got off of ebay for about £1 and decided to use it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180642-sculpting-a-wolf-cloak/#findComment-2138977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maznaz Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Brilliant, thanks for that. I really like that hammer for a Rockfist conversion maybe, and a round shield would be very cool. Cheers, Marek Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180642-sculpting-a-wolf-cloak/#findComment-2138987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkenheim Posted October 5, 2009 Author Share Posted October 5, 2009 as for shields, i have a pair of these from the CMON shop, http://www.coolminiornot.com/store/product.php?xProd=2490 they are a tiny bit bigger than the one on the mini above but a good fit and they have a decent pattern on them... mine differ slightly in terms of the pattern they have on the front but they are a nice fit for termies. alternatively there are these, similar size to the one above but plain http://www.coolminiornot.com/store/product.php?xProd=2489 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180642-sculpting-a-wolf-cloak/#findComment-2139003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkenheim Posted October 9, 2009 Author Share Posted October 9, 2009 ok once you have the skeleton of the cloak made then start laying a strip of greenstuff on top of one of the limbs. its easiest to start on a limb as the fur should be scultped in lines pointing down and it makes blending later stages easier. heres a shot of the one leg with fur added http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00767.jpg when you reach the top of the leg make sure to flatten the greenstuff out as much as possible like this pic, this is to make later stages easier. http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00764.jpg ok you should soon have all the legs finished http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00769.jpg the nex tpart is the tail (and my pic didnt come out properly, dammit). but basially wrap a thin layer of greenstuff around the tail, making it thicker at the base of the tail. leave it to cure for about 20 mins. start working at the tip of the top side in the same manner as the fur on the legs. once the top is done do the same on the bottom, then neaten up the edges. afterwards, add a patch going across the width of the cloak, filling about half the remaining gap. then just start scoring lines in to make the texture. as long as the new layer is added about where the layer from the legs thinned it should be pretty easy to get the two layers to blend. http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00770.jpg then again, add another layer (this should be the final one) and sculpt the fur into this. this one is a bit different however as it will likely meet up with the wolfs head, as such the fur needs to be sculpted in a different way. excuse the poor pics but this is asimple way for me to describe it. as you can see the fur (the little black lines) are pointing towards the end of the limbs... http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/fur.jpg now we need the fur to turn to point down the top legs... to do this the fur should be scultped in this sort of pattern. at the middle of the neck, the fur is pointing down, but as you move further from the centre the fur should start to curve slightly. http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/fur2.jpg it should look something like this when finished http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00779.jpg http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00780.jpg and thats pretty much that for this part... the only bit left is to sculpt the skin on the underside, but i need the fur to have dried fully before i do that... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180642-sculpting-a-wolf-cloak/#findComment-2145146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amornar Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Wow, great tutorial man! I've sculpted pieces of fur before, but I might just have to try out a full cloak or two... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180642-sculpting-a-wolf-cloak/#findComment-2145206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkenheim Posted October 10, 2009 Author Share Posted October 10, 2009 once the fur cloak is sculpted you need to start adding the skin underneath in any visible areas... this is so simple to do, and far easier than sculpting the rest of it in the first place. layer a thin piece of greenstuff within the outlines of the fur like below http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00786.jpg then using you sculpting tool roughly spread it about, pulling it closer to the edge http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00787.jpg then using the blade part of your tool start to make the edge irregular and add small 'holes' and dots in random places. also make sure the greenstuff layer isn't flat, as when you come to paint it the rough texture will look better. http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00789.jpg all you need to do is finish the rest of the visible underside in the same manner to complete your fur cloak... in a few days i'm gonna get round to painting it so i'll post up the tutorial of that in this thread too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180642-sculpting-a-wolf-cloak/#findComment-2145788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eesoteric Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Wow this is awesome, more, more, more wulfy conversion goodness! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180642-sculpting-a-wolf-cloak/#findComment-2145796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fearlessgod Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 A great tutorial stinkenheim! Even a novice with greenstuff (like me) can do this. Nice job! Get this man a pint of ale....on me. ~fearlessgod~ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180642-sculpting-a-wolf-cloak/#findComment-2145827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maznaz Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 A very nice tutorial with one minor flaw. A wolf's tail is narrow at both ends, not conical. And since it's probably the single most commonly used decoration on our models, it's probably not going to go unnoticed. Marek Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180642-sculpting-a-wolf-cloak/#findComment-2145879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkenheim Posted October 10, 2009 Author Share Posted October 10, 2009 a terran wolfs is yes but these are from a speshul kind of fenrisian wolf with a funny looking tale,,, i based this on grimnars which is conical, besides it looks better and provides more support for the tail when it comes to posing it and painting it. the last thing you want is for the tail to snap off when your handling it. +edit+ thought i'd add in the tutorials for accessories that i poseted up here a while ago... first up, wolf tail talismans... take a small cone of greenstuff, smaller than you want the finished talisman to be... http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00509.jpg then using a sculpting tool or knife blade (make sure your tools are wet to stop the greenstuff sticking) score lines from top to bottom, this will lengthen the cone. when you get to the bottom of the talisman pull a couple of the strands outward slightly, and pull a few out from the sides to give a nice look to it. http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00511.jpg then square off the top slightly and also take a small piece out of the top corners so the top looks something like this /-\ http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00512.jpg then take a small ball of greenstuff and place it on the top, you might need to shape it slightly when its there but it should look like the tail comes out and then expands slightly (gives the impression that the metal clasp is pinching the hair together) http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00513.jpg then lastly score a small line just above the bottom of the ball of greenstuff... if you want you can instead add a small sauage of greenstuff but this is quicker and easier and looks fine. it just gives you th slight rim that you find on the plastic taismans. http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00515.jpg and there you go, a finished wolf tail talisman... next up, runic charms and wolf tooth necklaces... for the charm take a blob of greenstuff (yes 'blob' is a technical term... i went on the course you see) http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00516.jpg flatten it and square off some of the edges, try and make it look irregular if you can http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00517.jpg then using the tip of your scultping tool (or if its a really small charm your scalpel... jst be carefull if you put it in your move to moisten the blade cos tongues take ages to stp bleeding) and score in your chosen rune and a small dot at the top of the charm http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00518.jpg for teeth i find if you add a small, thin cone of greenstuff and shape it with a slight bend in it you should get a nice tooth like shape. if you can, a small nick at the top gets the shape of roots. but make sure you add a dot like you did with the charm. http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00519.jpg well now you need something to attatch them to, so take a thin sausage of greenstuff and place it just above http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00520.jpg and lastly using some more thin strips of greenstuff make the mtal rings, or leather straps that attatch the teeth and charms to the necklace... place one end in the small dots you made and then cut the sausage just above the necklace strap... and voila, a quick necklace is done :) http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00521.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180642-sculpting-a-wolf-cloak/#findComment-2145920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Runner Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Very interesting, especially the wolf tail talismans. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180642-sculpting-a-wolf-cloak/#findComment-2145929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerRed Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Thank you for this its been really good. Keep up the good work ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180642-sculpting-a-wolf-cloak/#findComment-2146085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirax Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 I love those last bits, very useful. The first will also come in handy, now I'm converting a Warg (LoTR) to a Fenrisian Wolf Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180642-sculpting-a-wolf-cloak/#findComment-2146560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkenheim Posted October 17, 2009 Author Share Posted October 17, 2009 ok, the last part of this (at least at the moment) is the painting of fur. I've been asked by a few people but couldn't do it until i actually had some fur that needed to be painted... well here it is. Firstly, i know many of you undercoat, but for the purposes of this tut and because of the dark colours involved i painted it straight onto the grenstuff so that you could see. Secondly, you will need some sort of picture to base your painting on. any image will do, i put 'Wolves' into google and picked out a few nice ones. My wolves tend to be brown in colour rather than grey, but thats because my space wolves are pretty cold so it brings a bit of warmth to the model. If you decde that you really want grey/black wolves then go for it, the way i pait it should easily be applicable to whatever your scheme is. this is the picture i chose http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/wolf.jpg I used the following colours; Chaos Black Scorched Brown Bestial Brown Snkebite Leather Desert Yellow Bleached Bone Skull White and finally Gryphonne Sepia... it sounds like a big list, but you could easily get rid of bestial brown and probably snakebite leather if you need to. whatever colours you use, make sure they are watered down, not too muh, but you need to be able to blend the two together (really not as hard as it sounds). the basic technique is pretty simple, paint one colour, leave a slight gap and then paint the next xolour. you then drag the loghter colour back into the dark one. a bit like this http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00816.jpg http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00817.jpg First up i painted the head to be similar to the picture i chose. I started with painting black down the middle of the head, scorched brown was then painted around the black areas, blending the two colours together. I then progressed down the colour chart until i was happy with how the head turned out. http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00807.jpg i then started painting the leg, i made sure t use a similar pattern to the wolf, dark near the shoulder, brighter to the bottom. http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00808.jpg I started on the back, as this is a pretty large area its easy to show you the technique at work. sorry about the blurry shot (i had to work quickly and didn't notice). Paint black down the middle of the back http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00809.jpg then paint scorched brown either side of the black and blend the two in. http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00810.jpg bestial brown was then added again moving further to the edges of the cloak and being blended into the previous layer http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00811.jpg snakebite leather was added in the same manner as the previous steps http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00812.jpg lastly a thin layer of desertyellow was applied, just along the edges http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00813.jpg i then painted the tail in much the same way, but keeping the top side darker and the underside getting lighter http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00814.jpg when you finish the remaining legs it should look like this http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00815.jpg you then need to drybrush the fur. this is really easy to do. make sure you drybrush the colours onto the previous layer. E.g scorched brown is drybrushed over the areas you painted chaos black. The scorched brown areas are drybrushed bestial brown and so on. when you get to he bleached bone areas simply lightly drybrush them with skull white. I very often give the fur a very, very light drybrush of desert yeallow then bleached bone to stop the darker areas from looking too flat. when you have drybrushed give the entire area a coat of gryphonne sepia, this adds depth to the fur as it sits in the recesses. it should look like this http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00828.jpg http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00831.jpg if the lighter areas need it simply apply another drybrush of bleached bone and white. For the underside, this is so simple. Paint the entire area bleached bone http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00818.jpg add a wash of gryphonne sepia. its at this stage that you see why its best to give the skin a slight texture, as the wash sits in the recesses http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00820.jpg then highlight with bleached bone, and then a final highlight of bleached bone/skull white http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/stinkenheim/DSC00821.jpg i paint my eyes yellow, using Iyaden darksun as the base colour, then a pupil of black as a line in the centre of the eye. the claws/teeth are painted by gving them a basecoat of snakebite leather and then highlighting up towards the tip with bubonic brown, bleached bone and a final highlight of skull white. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180642-sculpting-a-wolf-cloak/#findComment-2154615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Token Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 great work, very good painting. Double.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180642-sculpting-a-wolf-cloak/#findComment-2154705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growler67 Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 [Vader] Impressive.....Most Impressive. [/Vader] As an additional reference resource I offer this: http://www.tamaskan-dog.com/The%20Standard...ic_standard.htm There are plenty of images available on the web by doing an image search for "Wolf" or derivitives there of, or by using Siberian Husky or Alaskan Malamute as alternative searches for color variations. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180642-sculpting-a-wolf-cloak/#findComment-2154771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prototype Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 I'm wondering, could you please show how you sculpted the fur itself? What tools/technique did you use? Thanks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180642-sculpting-a-wolf-cloak/#findComment-2154811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raxtenko Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Wow. Thanks a lot! I'll definitely try this with my next pelt. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180642-sculpting-a-wolf-cloak/#findComment-2155036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The God Emperor Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 hm.....what is this wet patch on the crotch bit of my pants? :D I squirmed a little at the finished product but can I get a little more instructions? I'm a bit thick and slow. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180642-sculpting-a-wolf-cloak/#findComment-2155155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGC Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 I am going to add my own 'omg' comment to this. Awesome tutorial I would also like to know the bit of how you actually 'sculpted' the fur effect as none of mine ever came out like that - it really looks good And big thanks for the painting steps - really helps a lot for a very effective finish Mods. Can we have this 'stickied'?? DGC Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180642-sculpting-a-wolf-cloak/#findComment-2155241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkenheim Posted October 18, 2009 Author Share Posted October 18, 2009 with regards to the 'way' i scultped the fur... i did actually do a video on my camera showing sculpting fur and the underside of the pelt but whenever I try and upload it to either youtube or myspace my internet cuts out, anyone have any ideas why?? but sure, i'll take a few pics of how i do it. probably have them on here by wednesday. @ the god emperor, what exactly was it you were unsure of? oh, by the way guys, the sculpting part was added to the librarium here http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...showarticle=705 and they explained some bits better than me :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180642-sculpting-a-wolf-cloak/#findComment-2155421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkenheim Posted August 17, 2010 Author Share Posted August 17, 2010 threadnomancy of the highest order here, but I finally got Youtube to upload my videos. Sculpting fur- Sculpting the underside- Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180642-sculpting-a-wolf-cloak/#findComment-2490849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Token Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Good stuff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180642-sculpting-a-wolf-cloak/#findComment-2491324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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