Olgerth Istaarn Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Reading the dex entry for WG, I find myself a bit puzzled. WG can: Replace his TDA storm bolter with a TH, SS or Chainfist - XX points (point cost removed by me) Replace his TDA power weapon with a TH, SS or Chainfist - XX points (point cost removed by me) So, a TH&SS TDA wolfguard will cost: Base Cost + XXX for TDA + XX for TH + XX for SS? If so, friggin ouch, expensive... Or is it just Base Cost + XXX for TDA + XX for BOTH TH and SS? If so, somewhat tolerable. Please answer and feel free to pour ale on my head for being stupid. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180716-thss-for-wolf-guard/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
dublindawg Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 My understanding it's the "ouch that's expensive" but oh so worth it. Also if I'm not mistaken, you can equip your WG with the TH and SS without having to take the TDA. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180716-thss-for-wolf-guard/#findComment-2139697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DV8 Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Reading the dex entry for WG, I find myself a bit puzzled. WG can: Replace his TDA storm bolter with a TH, SS or Chainfist - XX points (point cost removed by me) Replace his TDA power weapon with a TH, SS or Chainfist - XX points (point cost removed by me) So, a TH&SS TDA wolfguard will cost: Base Cost + XXX for TDA + XX for TH + XX for SS? If so, friggin ouch, expensive... Or is it just Base Cost + XXX for TDA + XX for BOTH TH and SS? If so, somewhat tolerable. Please answer and feel free to pour ale on my head for being stupid. I don't see what the confusion is. You purchase a Wolf Guard for his points. You then have the option to purchase his gear, swapping out (individually) Bolt Pistol and/or CCW for Thunder Hammer/Storm Shield. Alternatively you can choose to take the Wolf Guard, put him in TDA, and then swap out (again individually) the Storm Bolter and/or Power Weapon for Thunder Hammer/Storm Shield. You're right they are expensive. A Wolf Guard in PA with TH/SS is 68 points A Wolf Guard in TDA with TH/SS is 63 points. I do believe that the TH/SS option costs more in PA because you retain Frag and Krak Grenades, as well as the option to Sweeping Advance, and taking up less space in transports (and being able to ride in Rhinos/Razors), without sacrificing the combat or staying power given by the weapons combination. DV8 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180716-thss-for-wolf-guard/#findComment-2139699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 They are so expensive because, with Counter Charge, you get the additional attack, meaning they are 50% more effective than vanilla terms when charged. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180716-thss-for-wolf-guard/#findComment-2139809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garou24 Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Also on top of the above abilities, you get to pluck your wolf guard and stick him in another unit that normally might not have such a character attached Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180716-thss-for-wolf-guard/#findComment-2139940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Amarel Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 And not forgetting that you don't need to take the TH & SS as a pair, which is a bit of a bonus. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180716-thss-for-wolf-guard/#findComment-2139962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 And that you can also put in Chain Fists, Combi Meltas, CML and Assault Cannon into the squad to make them incredibly versatile. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180716-thss-for-wolf-guard/#findComment-2139993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkenheim Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 think this is another thread that can be closed... the rules are fairly straight forward, you replace a bolt pistol with either TH or SS, then the combat weapon with either TH or SS, you can have two hammers, two ss or one of each... which ever way you do it you pay the points to replace the bolt pistol and then pay to replace the combat weapon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180716-thss-for-wolf-guard/#findComment-2140023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kreidian Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 It's also worth noting that, due to the way the point costs work out, you can also put two thunder hammers on a WG for the extra CC attack for the same price. Something that would be prohibitively expensive for any other army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180716-thss-for-wolf-guard/#findComment-2140394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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