HERO Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 To all wolfbrothers ! Can't you see this is chaos that have infiltrated our midst and are spreading false rumors to hinder our effectiveness on the combat field ! This user named timtim9990 that has only 2 posts and no honor yet and still you belive he has called GW and got the answer to this question ! Be strong and see the evil for what it is ! I'll only belive this heresy when i see it on a official document from the Big Wolf himself, and so should you. Rune Priest Catheras. This is the funniest post I've seen in a long while. Thank you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180727-jaws-of-the-world-wolf/page/2/#findComment-2140054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaosPhoenix Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 I'll quote the german codex at first in german and then my translation, because I think it's a little more specific then the english original. "Um dies darzustellen dürfen Charaktermodelle weder dieselbe Saga, noch eine identische Kombination an Psikräften oder Ausrüstungsoptionen besitzen." Translation: "To represent this, charactermodels are not allowed to take the same saga, nor an identical combination of psychic powers or equipment options." Identical combination sounds much clearer to me than everything with "same" in it. And the sentence is specificly states the combination of powers, not equipment like in the english version. I think both is intended, powers & equipment. A little offtopic: If special characters are excluded, may I take Njal and Logan (saga identical). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180727-jaws-of-the-world-wolf/page/2/#findComment-2140078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramora Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 If the intent was to stop people from taking the same powers they would have written it more like "No two characters may bear the same saga or psychic power, nor may the bear the same wargear combination." IF the rule was written this way I could the they intented it such that there were no dub powers but since the put it as power"S" and put powers and wargear combinations after the nor it would lead me to believe that if you take power A and B and one RP and power A nd C on another with a piece of wargear you are all good and legal. I'm sure there are more than 3 rune priest in all of the Space Wolves.. Cheers, Ramo Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180727-jaws-of-the-world-wolf/page/2/#findComment-2140087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkseer Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 I believe I've made a correct and simple explanation of the wording here But to summarise: If it was written like this, then it wouldn't be an issue: "No two characters may bear the same saga, nor may they bear the same psychic power or wargear combination." The problem is, that they wrote it like this: "No two characters may bear the same psychic powers or wargear combination." Can you see the difference 'powers' as a plural makes instead of 'power' as a singular? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180727-jaws-of-the-world-wolf/page/2/#findComment-2140090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Tiger Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Translation:"To represent this, charactermodels are not allowed to take the same saga, nor an identical combination of psychic powers or equipment options." trust the germans to be efficient and to the point and write something that makes sense Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180727-jaws-of-the-world-wolf/page/2/#findComment-2140128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DV8 Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 If special characters are excluded, may I take Njal and Logan (saga identical). Yes, you may. DV8 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180727-jaws-of-the-world-wolf/page/2/#findComment-2140134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirax Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 The unique rule; isn't it more of a designers not? They're encouraged to not have the same weapons/sagas/powers etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180727-jaws-of-the-world-wolf/page/2/#findComment-2140173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaosPhoenix Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Translation:"To represent this, charactermodels are not allowed to take the same saga, nor an identical combination of psychic powers or equipment options." trust the germans to be efficient and to the point and write something that makes sense Most of the things which aren't clear in the english rulebooks aren't clear in the german books either (I still haven't figured out, if a seismic hammer counts as DCCW).. but sometimes there are differences. It could be a mistranslation though... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180727-jaws-of-the-world-wolf/page/2/#findComment-2140267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkio Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 seismic hammers are DCCW's i have a questiong that is related to JoTWW but not nessecarilay this topic. i have been told by members that this has been beaten to death but it smacks of "I dont want to be hurt by this power so i'm going to find a loophole." this is in regards strictly to jump infantry and the jaws. i acknowledge that it is not placed on the list of units effected. but my reading of the rules leans towards it effecting jump troops just as any other. My basis for this comes from pg 51 on the BRB otherwise known as the units section. before getting into explaining all the specifics of the units it goes to say in the second paragraph introducing the section, "Except for the rules detailed in this section for each unit type, these units follow the same rules as infantry. people havestated that jump packed troops cannot enter buildings or vehicles; however, nowhere in the rulebook does it state that. By this i believe that jump infantry and infantry as one and the same for the application of the psychic power. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180727-jaws-of-the-world-wolf/page/2/#findComment-2140282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DV8 Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 seismic hammers are DCCW's i have a questiong that is related to JoTWW but not nessecarilay this topic. i have been told by members that this has been beaten to death but it smacks of "I dont want to be hurt by this power so i'm going to find a loophole." this is in regards strictly to jump infantry and the jaws. i acknowledge that it is not placed on the list of units effected. but my reading of the rules leans towards it effecting jump troops just as any other. My basis for this comes from pg 51 on the BRB otherwise known as the units section. before getting into explaining all the specifics of the units it goes to say in the second paragraph introducing the section, "Except for the rules detailed in this section for each unit type, these units follow the same rules as infantry. people havestated that jump packed troops cannot enter buildings or vehicles; however, nowhere in the rulebook does it state that. By this i believe that jump infantry and infantry as one and the same for the application of the psychic power. No, Jump Infantry are a category all their own, and unaffected by Jaws of the World Wolf. The statement that they function in all other ways as Infantry, is to merely save space, and is GW's way of saying: Hey, these guys function as Infantry, with a couple extra rules. DV8 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180727-jaws-of-the-world-wolf/page/2/#findComment-2140289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dublindawg Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 On this I am in full agreement with DV8, each of the models listed as being affected by the JotWW are types of units. Jump/Jet Pack units are a seperate type of unit as are LS and hovercraft. Probably better off using the hurricane power against these type of units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180727-jaws-of-the-world-wolf/page/2/#findComment-2140298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkio Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 seems backwards to me. but whatever. i can feild jump infantry as troops *shrugs* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180727-jaws-of-the-world-wolf/page/2/#findComment-2140325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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