Grey Mage Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 So, my Wolf Lord cant have a Frost blade? :wacko: *SLAP!* *powers up a nearby wolf claw* Was that your hand, on my wolf lord? I hope it wasnt. That would be bad. For you. ;). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180768-space-wolf-terminators/page/2/#findComment-2145477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 The questions i read these days someone should close these dumb topics. And people should start to read the new codex for a week over and over again until they get it in their thick skulls that all what you need to know is in their. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180768-space-wolf-terminators/page/2/#findComment-2145637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rahl02 Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 The questions i read these days someone should close these dumb topics. And people should start to read the new codex for a week over and over again until they get it in their thick skulls that all what you need to know is in their. Agreed, if people read the dex they'll see it's actually pretty basic. Those that disagree are putting WAY to much thought into it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180768-space-wolf-terminators/page/2/#findComment-2145692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woulfeheart Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 So...Wait... My Wolf Lord in TDA CAN'T take a frost blade? But in all seriousness, I don't know why distrusting teleporting means we can't. I mean, even if you don't want to, that doesn't mean you should bar its use completely. Hell. Arjac uses this "distrusted" technology IN HIS HAMMER, which could just as easily malfunction and teleport inside his armor instead of to his hand. But, I can understand that our codex has to have SOME drawbacks, and frankly, I'm sort of glad I held off on converting a Wolfy Ironclad (Might still do it...Bjarn/Bjorn). But, let it be known, that Wolf Guard in TDA CAN have Frost Weaponry. That makes me think the omission for the Lord and Battle Leader was an oversight. Granted, that doesn't change that we can't take them, but I'll raise my ale to a new FAQ. Also, I agree with Spacefrisian. The answers to all these questions (and more!) is in the codex, and the BRB. Failing that, they're in the stickied FAQ. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180768-space-wolf-terminators/page/2/#findComment-2145912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkenheim Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 i think the ommission of a frost blade from the wolf lord is more to do with balancing out the effectiveness of the characters. dont forget he can take sagas to potentially increase his attacks far in excess of any wolf guard model. plus he will hit anything with a WS on a 3+ (assuming he takes a wolf tooth necklace) where as wolf guard will need 4+ against most things. regardless of whether it was an oversight or balancing issue, if its not an option he cant and theres nothing we can do about it... as for teleporting, its messing with the warp which is something that the space wolves have next to no time for. our rune priests used runes to channel their powers (rather than drawing them straight out of the warp like librarians) and as such are still viewed with a mix of awe and fear but not the general level of mistrust that space wolves view other psykers with. with teleporting if it goes wrong you end up inside a mountain or lost in the warp, thats what the space wolves distrust. and arjac is an anomoly, basically thor could do it so they thought a wolf should be able to, theres no other reason really :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180768-space-wolf-terminators/page/2/#findComment-2145930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Admittedly, I'd rather teleport my hammer from six feet away then teleport myself a 100 miles from orbit to a planet below. Also are people still trying to argue they can deep strike because it says they don't like it? lols. It doesn't say units in terminator armor can, either, so they can't. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180768-space-wolf-terminators/page/2/#findComment-2145971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasterfree Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 i think that this is another one of those far fetched ideas that has been run under the bus. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180768-space-wolf-terminators/page/2/#findComment-2145974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 as for teleporting, its messing with the warp which is something that the space wolves have next to no time for. our rune priests used runes to channel their powers (rather than drawing them straight out of the warp like librarians) and as such are still viewed with a mix of awe and fear but not the general level of mistrust that space wolves view other psykers with. with teleporting if it goes wrong you end up inside a mountain or lost in the warp, thats what the space wolves distrust. and arjac is an anomoly, basically thor could do it so they thought a wolf should be able to, theres no other reason really :) It's too bad the Space Wolves can't leave Fenris to go fight for the Allfather, since all interstellar travel requires travelling (or virtually teleporting) through the warp. I guess we'll all just hang out down here on Asaheim and hope that the aliens and daemons come to us. /sarcasm Valerian Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180768-space-wolf-terminators/page/2/#findComment-2146243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyson_Vore Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 as for teleporting, its messing with the warp which is something that the space wolves have next to no time for. our rune priests used runes to channel their powers (rather than drawing them straight out of the warp like librarians) and as such are still viewed with a mix of awe and fear but not the general level of mistrust that space wolves view other psykers with. with teleporting if it goes wrong you end up inside a mountain or lost in the warp, thats what the space wolves distrust. and arjac is an anomoly, basically thor could do it so they thought a wolf should be able to, theres no other reason really :) It's too bad the Space Wolves can't leave Fenris to go fight for the Allfather, since all interstellar travel requires travelling (or virtually teleporting) through the warp. I guess we'll all just hang out down here on Asaheim and hope that the aliens and daemons come to us. /sarcasm Valerian Yeah, but it is the Navis Nobilite that takes care of that, not the Space Wolves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180768-space-wolf-terminators/page/2/#findComment-2146260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temprus Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 Yeah, but it is the Navis Nobilite that takes care of that, not the Space Wolves.Somehow I doubt that comforts the Space Wolves anymore than if the Blood Claws were piloting the ships. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180768-space-wolf-terminators/page/2/#findComment-2146427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 Yeah, but it is the Navis Nobilite that takes care of that, not the Space Wolves. They still are along for the ride. V Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180768-space-wolf-terminators/page/2/#findComment-2146456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkenheim Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 yea bu theres also a butt load of metal and then a gellar field between you and the warp... not the case in teleporting. they may not like space travel but its a dam sight safer than teleporting Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180768-space-wolf-terminators/page/2/#findComment-2146632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGC Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 So, my Wolf Lord cant have a Frost blade? <_< SLAP SLAP..................SLAP Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180768-space-wolf-terminators/page/2/#findComment-2146823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Kezef Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 yea bu theres also a butt load of metal and then a gellar field between you and the warp... not the case in teleporting. they may not like space travel but its a dam sight safer than teleporting True The description of teleporting given in the Daemonhunter's codex strikes me as a very uncomfortable way to trvale for superstitious Space Wolves. Hell I'd rather hit the deck in a drop pod than get shot through the warp, feel the tendrils of daemonic entities trying to get at me before turning up on the planet and noticing one of the lads didn't make it through. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180768-space-wolf-terminators/page/2/#findComment-2146836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGC Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 What about the 13th Co and 'Gate' Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180768-space-wolf-terminators/page/2/#findComment-2146851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Kezef Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 What about the 13th Co and 'Gate' The 13th company are bloody insane Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180768-space-wolf-terminators/page/2/#findComment-2146855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacewolflars Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 So, my Wolf Lord cant have a Frost blade? :lol: Aww man, I just finished painting mine too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180768-space-wolf-terminators/page/2/#findComment-2146863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haakon_Stormbrow Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 So...Wait... My Wolf Lord in TDA CAN'T take a frost blade? But in all seriousness, I don't know why distrusting teleporting means we can't. I mean, even if you don't want to, that doesn't mean you should bar its use completely. Hell. Arjac uses this "distrusted" technology IN HIS HAMMER, which could just as easily malfunction and teleport inside his armor instead of to his hand. But, I can understand that our codex has to have SOME drawbacks, and frankly, I'm sort of glad I held off on converting a Wolfy Ironclad (Might still do it...Bjarn/Bjorn). But, let it be known, that Wolf Guard in TDA CAN have Frost Weaponry. That makes me think the omission for the Lord and Battle Leader was an oversight. Granted, that doesn't change that we can't take them, but I'll raise my ale to a new FAQ. Also, I agree with Spacefrisian. The answers to all these questions (and more!) is in the codex, and the BRB. Failing that, they're in the stickied FAQ. in that original startrek show the doctor hated the teleport thing too, but he still used it in an emergency and i think spacewolves would too, especially if their wolflord was on the verge of death. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180768-space-wolf-terminators/page/2/#findComment-2148052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkenheim Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 So...Wait... My Wolf Lord in TDA CAN'T take a frost blade? But in all seriousness, I don't know why distrusting teleporting means we can't. I mean, even if you don't want to, that doesn't mean you should bar its use completely. Hell. Arjac uses this "distrusted" technology IN HIS HAMMER, which could just as easily malfunction and teleport inside his armor instead of to his hand. But, I can understand that our codex has to have SOME drawbacks, and frankly, I'm sort of glad I held off on converting a Wolfy Ironclad (Might still do it...Bjarn/Bjorn). But, let it be known, that Wolf Guard in TDA CAN have Frost Weaponry. That makes me think the omission for the Lord and Battle Leader was an oversight. Granted, that doesn't change that we can't take them, but I'll raise my ale to a new FAQ. Also, I agree with Spacefrisian. The answers to all these questions (and more!) is in the codex, and the BRB. Failing that, they're in the stickied FAQ. in that original startrek show the doctor hated the teleport thing too, but he still used it in an emergency and i think spacewolves would too, especially if their wolflord was on the verge of death. yes but they are not allowed to in the rules. in any case teleporting the wolves to the planet would not help the wolf lord near death, instead thats where you teleport him out. or better yet there would be a thunderhawk on route with a wolf priest inside to ensure he recieves medical care on the return to the ship. THEY CANNOT TELEPORT... regardless of how people feel about that is the rules Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180768-space-wolf-terminators/page/2/#findComment-2148585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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