Questions about Canis Wolfborn

[VonMerrick]

Well its been a while since I dusted off my pelts but this new codex gave me the inspiration to get back into 40k.I was originally a Space Wolf player during the end of second edition and all through the third edition. They were my first army and have always been my favorite. Over the last two years I drifted in and out of the hobby amassing small forces here and there, but obligations to work and family really pulled me out of the hobby. With this new wolf dex, I have set aside this fall for a return to 40k and the fang.

 

Once I saw the new Canis model, I immediately knew he would be a staple HQ for me. Now I am concerned as I haven't played a full game greater than 1000 points in a few years, as to how his rules play out on the table. Please let me know any opinions or tactics which you have seen already or are theorizing about. At home still boxed, I currently I have 2 full GH squads in rhinos planned. I thought about fielding 15 Blood claws and a Wolf Priest (Gamesday Model) in a Land Raider Crusader, and 5 Wolf Guard Terminators either (maybe in a pod). So please let me know any ideas for using Canis with a mostly mech force.

 

 

Basically, I was thinking of playing as Ragnar's company initially, but at his points cost he won't be viable for me in the 1500-2000 points range. Canis is already pushing it as it is. Also does anyone have a painted example of Harald Deathwolf's great company on a model? I want to compare this to the traditional colors (Ragnar's) I used on my last space wolves 6 years ago. The fluff for Deathwolf's company seems cool with lots of wolves and use of thunderwolf cavalry, but I wanted to compare how the models looked.

[Valdenaar]

Ok well that sounds like a cool little strike force, certainly wouldn't want to face them though as Black Templars... It'd be close.

 

Secondly you don't have to deploy Terminators in a drop pod, they teleport into battle instead. In game tems its pretty much the same effect.

 

Thirdly I happen to think upon reading about Wolfborn and seeing him in action in WD that he fits in with any force. He can rip through pretty much anything with those claws and his Thunderwolf.

 

As for Deathwolf's company. Have you tried looking at the showcase in the back of the Codex. It seems to me that they like red as their markings.

 

Hope I helped.

[VonMerrick]

Thanks, I have seen the red background with the Deathwolf and a bright star in the codex. I was hoping someone would have a painted model somewhere with this so I could do a comparision from my desk without painting up a test model. :)

 

I was basically going to add some wolf scouts and a full missle launcher squad of Long Fangs to my force. My goal would be to have the crusader with the Blood Claws and the wolf priest make a direct assault on the enemy infantry. The Grey Hunters would ride out and attempt to take any objectives, while the wolf scouts can BEL in and work on the enemy armor with the meltabombs and meltagun. My long fangs would split fire to take out enemy armor from range. The thought of using a pod with the terminators would be to benefit from the drop pod assault rule and have them set down on turn 1 and begin to carve into the enemy from a different angle. My idea was to have Canis move up with the LRC and try to get into combat with another squad of enemy troops as soon as he could. I was only concerned with him being vulnerbale as I am unaccustomed to running a Space Wolf character without a squad of Wolf Guard.

[The Fenrisian]

Did you mean Harald's GC symbol or himself?

 

I chose Harald's symbol for my wolves army a while back and I use the transfers you can download from B&C:

 

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...mp;showfile=102

 

Although I changed the colour, as I felt that having a red background would give my Wolves too much red (if that sentence makes sense to everyone!). I use standard GH markings, but my BCs are a grey background with a hand painted red paw (much more fitting for the term 'blood claw' I thought). Plus the transfers have a star outline rather than a white star, so I use a bone-colour for my GC symbol. It's a base of Dheneb Stone covered with Bleached Bone. It works really well with the transfer over the top and looks good with the Codex Grey base colour I use.

 

I also modelled my own Harald Deathwolf, as there was no fluff for him in the last book in TDA with the claws from the chaos lord and Ulrik's wolf helm and Logan's pelt. It came out rather well I thought.

 

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v236/jay...My%20SW%20Army/

 

 

Then GW went and made some fluff for him riding a giant wolf and being similar to Canis, the one thing I really didn't like out of the new releases. I'm just going to carry on using the symbol, but make a whole new Wolf Lord instead.

 

I personally hate the Canis model, well the wolf to be accurate, but I suppose the best thing to do would be to simply replace his torso with another to model Harald. It'll mean he stands out very well amongst the rest of the army, which being the lord, he should do. There's plenty of threads about Thunderwolf conversion ideas on here as well that you could use. The Privateer Press wolf seems to be the most ideal I think. It just looks a lot smaller than Canis' unfortunately.

[ChaosPhoenix]

Secondly you don't have to deploy Terminators in a drop pod, they teleport into battle instead. In game tems its pretty much the same effect.

 

Sorry but this is wrong. Space Wolves Terminators can't teleport.

[gojira316]

Having used Canis myself I can say that he is a monster. However, you're going to need to protect him with either Thunderwolves or Fenrisian Wolves. If you don't he'll get shot down before he gets into combat. Putting him in a unit of Thunderwolves is the better option since they're more durable and hit much harder. Taking both is effective since you can run the Fenrisian Wolves in front of the Thunderwolves and give them a cover save.

[Wispy]

I suppose the best thing to do would be to simply replace his torso with another to model Harald. It'll mean he stands out very well amongst the rest of the army, which being the lord, he should do. There's plenty of threads about Thunderwolf conversion ideas on here as well that you could use. The Privateer Press wolf seems to be the most ideal I think. It just looks a lot smaller than Canis' unfortunately.

Canis is a bitch to convert. The whole torso is attached to a fur cloak, which is of course attached to the whole wolf. the best I can manage is replacing the arms and head.

[Lord Ragnarok]

Did you mean Harald's GC symbol or himself?

 

I chose Harald's symbol for my wolves army a while back and I use the transfers you can download from B&C:

 

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...mp;showfile=102

 

Although I changed the colour, as I felt that having a red background would give my Wolves too much red (if that sentence makes sense to everyone!). I use standard GH markings, but my BCs are a grey background with a hand painted red paw (much more fitting for the term 'blood claw' I thought). Plus the transfers have a star outline rather than a white star, so I use a bone-colour for my GC symbol. It's a base of Dheneb Stone covered with Bleached Bone. It works really well with the transfer over the top and looks good with the Codex Grey base colour I use.

 

I also modelled my own Harald Deathwolf, as there was no fluff for him in the last book in TDA with the claws from the chaos lord and Ulrik's wolf helm and Logan's pelt. It came out rather well I thought.

 

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v236/jay...My%20SW%20Army/

 

 

Then GW went and made some fluff for him riding a giant wolf and being similar to Canis, the one thing I really didn't like out of the new releases. I'm just going to carry on using the symbol, but make a whole new Wolf Lord instead.

 

I personally hate the Canis model, well the wolf to be accurate, but I suppose the best thing to do would be to simply replace his torso with another to model Harald. It'll mean he stands out very well amongst the rest of the army, which being the lord, he should do. There's plenty of threads about Thunderwolf conversion ideas on here as well that you could use. The Privateer Press wolf seems to be the most ideal I think. It just looks a lot smaller than Canis' unfortunately.

 

 

My company was from Haralds as well before the dex, but I had killed him off and he was replaced by Alarik Silvermane. However I like the fluff description for Harald so I demoted silvermane to WGBL. And eventually will do Harald on a mean wolf.

 

That said, remember you can always kill off the wolf lord and have your guy take over. Plus who is to say Harald would not also use termie armor. I'd expect Wolf Lords to utilize all the ways of battle.